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Offlineblingbling
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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #16271584 - 05/23/12 03:58 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i like what you wrote about your experience piercing anothers and bleeding into it. i'm willing to entertain such ideas, like that the self ripples out far away from the body and interacts with people in ways that we don't fully understand but the whole telepathy thing is a bit too much for me. i guess it just depends on where you wanna draw your line in the sand :shrug:


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let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

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everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

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euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

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if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: blingbling]
    #16272360 - 05/23/12 09:55 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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blingbling said:
i like what you wrote about your experience piercing anothers and bleeding into it. i'm willing to entertain such ideas, like that the self ripples out far away from the body and interacts with people in ways that we don't fully understand but the whole telepathy thing is a bit too much for me. i guess it just depends on where you wanna draw your line in the sand :shrug:




Totally.  I feel like FishOilKid's explanation is more eloquent and possibly much closer to what I experienced, than just saying "telepathy".  It's certainly something I'm considering. 

Out of all the psychedelics I've taken, mushrooms hold the reign on the strangest, most out there experiences I've ever had.  I wonder why I psilocybin affects me in a way that seems totally delusional, and yet completely real.  LSD and mescaline, powerful and life-altering as they can be, don't seem to come close to the mind-spaces the mushrooms have led to.  Anyone else feel this?


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: analogkid2112]
    #16274131 - 05/23/12 04:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

mushrooms are definetly a head fuck. nothing makes me lose my shit quite like shrooms. i find that mushrooms can be an extremely emotional trip. sometimes so emotional that its unbearable. i know a guy who reckons yopo is likely the crazyiest shit around.


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: blingbling]
    #16275874 - 05/23/12 10:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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blingbling said:
mushrooms are definetly a head fuck. nothing makes me lose my shit quite like shrooms. i find that mushrooms can be an extremely emotional trip. sometimes so emotional that its unbearable. i know a guy who reckons yopo is likely the crazyiest shit around.





Yeah, every mushroom trip I've been on has involved intense emotions, crying, entity contact, and mind expansion.  Very strange creatures they are. 

I tried yopo seeds a few times, but I didn't prepare them the 'jungle' way of mixing the ground up seeds with plant ash and snorting a line.  I smoked/vaped the seeds and felt what could be more of the bufotenin effects, rather than the 5-MeO DMT.  I've been told that yopo prepared traditionally is the stuff of shamanism.  I wouldn't doubt it.


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"So much style without substance
So much stuff without style
It's hard to recognize the real thing
It comes along once in a while
Like a rare and precious metal beneath a ton of rock
It takes some time and trouble to separate from the stock
You sometimes have to listen to a lot of useless talk"



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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: WowGiveUpOnLyfe]
    #16277625 - 05/24/12 09:44 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

This is good advice. :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: analogkid2112]
    #16310214 - 05/31/12 06:33 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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intense emotions, crying, entity contact, and mind expansion.




Will you talk more about your entity contact experiences.  Please.:peace:


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #16316094 - 06/01/12 10:06 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Analogkid2012,

I read your post and if you are interested about other people's opinion as to the experience, here's mine:

Me and my best friend, who's now dead, used to very frequently - on a day to day basis, feel the same emotions and think the same thoughts. Sometimes we'd say the same things at the same time. Like, one time, sober, in the middle of a silence we just both said "dextro-wine" for no reason. Our bonding was facilitated through about 3 years (2006-2009) of weekly DXM trips, at one point where we became (or realized) that we were the same person. We also shared the SAME "dextro-space" during the trips.  For example, we both were in an art gallery, in space, with statues of Roman Gods, and we were each a statue across from one another and saw each other there. After the trip we could independently describe the same objects and things that happened. I'm not trying to prove anything also, I just think this is interesting.

I do have a guess about the nature of your trip, if I may. This is based on my personal experiences (notably with cubes). Sometimes, I experience "negative/depressive/death-themed" visions and ideas which persist until I honestly ACCEPT my own ultimate death right then and there.

As soon as I agree to dying right then and there, I and my trip are reborn into a higher vibration of consciousness that is composed of pure love, compassion and bliss.

Maybe, just maybe, your "sad" thoughts and the events that happened prior to your trip were a set-up for you to go through "ego-death" so you could reach that next "vibratory level".

I really hope that what I wrote can somehow aid or entertain you - and my ultimate wish is that next time when you experience the "darkness", try to remember this post, and if you feel ready, and if you feel it is proper, let go of control and accept death - maybe you're like me and something magical will happen once you let down your guard.

Good luck my friend. :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: analogkid2112]
    #16316475 - 06/01/12 11:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I've had some interesting experiences on DXM blavampire. One time my friend was having a bad trip, and outside or something. We could all feel it inside, so me and my friend travelled outside and just focused with him and did some things to bring him up.

An interesting experince I;ve had on lsd once, me and my friend split up at a show and we started to feel the need to communicate with eachother more and more, it kept building up until finally when we both called eachother it said recieving call (x's name) at the same exact time.

And for interconnected experiences, or shared space experiences, me and my buddy after ingesting some L and strong aborts were sitting in my car and having the exact same bodily sensations with regard to temprature (first off). We would both feel hot, then cold, then both, all at the same time. Drawing different perspectives off this experience. Then we both had the same audio experience, It was like hearing shpongle inside of a steel drum with a jet engine. We both were listening to this symphony inside this inner connected space.

Then I also had another experience after a shpongle show where I was on some mushrooms and strong L. After the show me and this girl made contact, we hugged but as we pulled away it felt like we were connected. Like the space between us. Then We remained connected and it was like an OOBE for a while. I floated up out of my body while we merged. Then we connected with others in the area and were sending energy back and forth. My body was moving in these strange ways and I had sensations inside i had never experienced before. It was kind of convulsing for a while. Then two people sat on the ground and put there backs togeather and started to transform into all these different other worldly beings. The guy stood up and while we were exchanging energy he then said something like lets turn up the heat, my buddy pulled out a lighter, but I instantly began to feel this rush of heat and fire flow up my body. And I had a vision of a woman saying a phrase to me a few months before this experience, and Im pretty sure the girl I connected with first said that exact phrase during this experience.

These experiences just remind me to keep an open mind. Perhaps the current model or framework for how our minds interact that is commonly prescribed is not the be all end all. OP you experience is very interesting indeed. I dont have much more to comment on it than that.

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mushrooms are definetly a head fuck. nothing makes me lose my shit quite like shrooms. i find that mushrooms can be an extremely emotional trip. sometimes so emotional that its unbearable. i know a guy who reckons yopo is likely the crazyiest shit around.





Yeah, every mushroom trip I've been on has involved intense emotions, crying, entity contact, and mind expansion.  Very strange creatures they are. 

I tried yopo seeds a few times, but I didn't prepare them the 'jungle' way of mixing the ground up seeds with plant ash and snorting a line.  I smoked/vaped the seeds and felt what could be more of the bufotenin effects, rather than the 5-MeO DMT.  I've been told that yopo prepared traditionally is the stuff of shamanism.  I wouldn't doubt it.




I have some yopo, crushed and prepared with baking soda and caapi. I have yet to try it.


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: weshroom]
    #16317037 - 06/01/12 01:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The experience with the energy-works sounds amazing man. As far as energy, this one time on DXM my buddy "died" - basically I couldn't see him breathing and I couldn't shake him awake. And I started to freak out, since on CCC its very possible. So then the panic just turned into the most deliberate thought that I wasn't gonna let him die. And as "Cities of the Future" started playing (our dxm anthem) I stood up, felt energy rise from the ground into my legs and up my body, it traveled into my left arm, pouring into my palm and I touched the right side of his neck and all of it shot into him. As soon as contact was made he flew up on his bed almost as if electrocuted and confirmed my speculation by saying that he was dead and I resurrected him.


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: sky]
    #16317900 - 06/01/12 03:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Wow blavampire, Sounds like a really powerful experience. Tripping every week together for 3 years, no doubt a special connection is formed there. Thats incredible.


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Re: Mushrooms, cannabis, and interconnected sadness. [Re: weshroom]
    #16329489 - 06/04/12 12:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

FishOilTheKid, sorry for the late response:


On exactly one fresh cube the size of a finger:
I went to work only expecting a mild mood enhancer.  I got to the job early, sat in my car and closed my eyes.  The CEV's were botanically alien, with various weeds (I had trimmed weeds on my yard earlier that morning) spiraling gracefully in a waterless ocean, and then a wormhole opened up at the center of one.  I was soaring through this tunnel of plants and pulsating color, when I gradually came to a halt.  The light and color faded, and I was in blackness.  From a distance I could make out a sort of shimmering red thing approaching.  It got closer.  This thing resembled a dragonhead with a fish's body, with scales that had a red glow.  It swam right up to me; eye to eye.  I couldn't believe what I was experiencing off one mushroom.  A moment later it gave off a sort of smiling grin and in a flash, disappeared.  I then went to work (I work at a grocery store, in a kitchen/prepared foods dept), and felt connected to everyone around me, thinking that our store was apart of a larger organism whereby everyone was interconnected and sent off energy/vibrations/emotions that affected the well-being of everyone else.  I felt as though I had to take responsibility for contributing love and understanding.  In the break-room there was a documentary on TV about the highly specialized training of Navy SEALS and how the dudes that made it to the end, were the toughest, most chiseled, best of the best of the best.  This pumped me up, as I intended to make the best food for people, filled with love.  I made sandwiches that looked and tasted so fucking good, people kept asking if I was an artist, and left generous tips which NEVER happens. 

On 35 grams fresh cubes:
I was in my room laying down during the come on before my girlfriend came over.  The experience throughout felt very foreign, alien, and uneasy as there were no reference points to hold on to.  I was terrified in some sense at how realistically surreal this was.  Behind closed eyes, I saw creatures that closely resembled bioluminescent deep sea animals, as they seemed to once again, swim closer to me.  This experience felt like the scene in "Closer Encounters of The Third Kind" towards the end where humans and aliens not only make first contact, but communicate with one another.  Then I was either told, or a thought, not generated consciously, came to me:  That mushrooms were allies, and here to help human beings progress...  I was so blown away I began to cry from astonishment.  I then heard some distorted, modulated grunts and tones, almost similar to how alien language is depicted in hollywood movies.  This alien feeling felt like a sort of preparation, but for what I'm not completely certain.  Highly bizarre, yet emotionally beautiful thoughts came to mind.  For instance, I thought that mushrooms were somehow involved in a person's coming into this world (birth/consciousness).  The fungi somehow saw all stages of this person's life, and then at a certain point, said person was made aware of mushrooms, and was able to return to their source (not sure of what).  During this I heard the song "Dunwich Beach, Autumn, 1960" from Brian Eno's Ambient 4 record and a mix of some morphing tones, sort of like a dj scratching a vinyl record, or a tone modulation effect on a musical keyboard. I was in a very delusional state, yet of course when tripping it seemed emotionally profound. 

Here's the Brian Eno song:



On 39 grams fresh cubes:
I was alone in my room in silent darkness.  Laying in my bed I closed my eyes and saw very complex geometric fractals that morphed into various botanically familiar shapes, and then into the shape of the mushrooms themselves.  My thoughts were racing as a flood of images came pouring into my head.  I opened my eyes for a moment and saw my popcorn ceiling swirl and form shapes similar to the physical form of a mushroom.  I closed my eyes again and what I saw would make Alex Grey, the visionary painter, proud.  My grasp of language fails to describe how "out there" and brilliant this image was, though I'll try.  A sort of black-hole/tunnel of pulsating light with a bluish/purple hue had these two squiggling lines that crossed one another diagonally, leaving orangish tracers while at the center of this was a huge eyeball looking directly at me.  I was blown away, yet for some reason I got a little restless/impatient, and thought I'd smoke some weed to see if it would enhance anything, not that anything needed enhancing.  At the time of this trip I was smoking cannabis 2-3 times daily, though I don't use it as heavily anymore. 
I took a small toke and instantly I heard/thought something to the extent of, "You idiot, fool, why did you do that?  Ughhhh rmmmmphhhhh (weird and distorted noises/grunts)".  I laid back down and closed my eyes, though there was no light or color.  At the time I thought that the mushrooms were mad at me for being so dense.  I then felt a lightness, as though they understood my fears and would adapt to my level of  intuition/sensitivity.  I began to hear some electrically modulated tones, which began to form a hauntingly beautiful melody, not unlike something you'd hear from a 70's Tangerine Dream song.  This was not consciously generated, making it all the more magical/bizarre.  The musician inside me added some tones into this mix and we were having a sort of jam session.  I cried, as I couldn't believe I was making mental music with the mushrooms.  After a bit, my mind wandered as I began to pick imaginary fights with people over trivial things.  I became objective and saw this ego-centered thinking in action.  I was then told/thought, that if human beings could transcend the sense of ego, a new realm of consciousness, ecstasy, communication, and connection awaited, and that was the next step in our evolution.  This seemed so clear to me while tripping.           



These trips left me feeling emotional, opened, mentally stretched, and expanded beyond what I previously thought possible.  And the following "death-themed" trip was the one that began this thread...

Some very insightful posts guys, thank you.  Death has been on my mind as I've been trying to support my friend whose mother committed suicide during this painful time.  I can't help but think you are correct, blavampire in that ego death is awaiting on my next trip and acceptance is the way onward. 

After my few mushroom experiences, I feel like all other reference points, psychedelic or otherwise, are gone, that the "self" I constructed on past trips isn't something tangible I can hold on to right now.  Psilocybin in high doses seems to make me lose my grip on consensus reality, and thus I'm hesitant to revisit the mushrooms too soon as the delusional thinking still trickles into my sober life.  As a result/counter I've been rationalizing my experiences as drug-induced delusions, though I still really have no clue.  Strangeness ensues.


Edited by analogkid2112 (06/04/12 01:02 AM)


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