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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16306715 - 05/30/12 03:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The best way for him to help his son is to actually have a, wait for it, income.
I was thinking that setting a good example would be a great way to help
like by not doing meth http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16216661#16216661
maybe give up drinking http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16022426#16022426
or giving up a liberal arts degree and seeking real employment http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16098003#16098003
but really, he should just man the fuck up http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16281476#16281476
and stop eating out all the time, fast food seems cheap but it's not when you're eating it for 3 meals each day http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16269643#16269643

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Celestial Traveler said: That's crazy because if someone is working full-time minimum wage, and let's say minimum wage is 7.50...
That means 40 hours a week x 7.50 = 300 a week x 52 weeks = 15,600.
You are making less than a third of that.
I own every thing and I raise my own food so I have no rent, no mortgage or car payments, just insurance and utilities and a few other things such as clothing every now and then. I budget pretty well, I can feed all 5 people for under $10 and never have to buy ramen noodles but for some reason my kids like them so when they get hungry during the day they can have some of that gross shit
Oh yeah, I think we had this conversation before in another thread. You were one of the few claiming "self-reliance" that actually did grow your own food and everything 
I too hope to become self-sustainable one day but for now it's codependence on society...
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I'm not completely self reliant, I still have to build a giant hamster wheel so I can put the kids to generating electricity
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16306729 - 05/30/12 03:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Teaches them to do chores/work ethic and powers the house at the same time
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Patlal] 2
#16306777 - 05/30/12 03:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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The OP has a quick wit and an undeserved sense of entitlement.
The former indicates that he's not stupid, despite how he comes across in this thread.
That's fortunate for the OP. That means that he is merely ignorant, and ignorance is curable, unlike stupidity.
I suspect that if he ever develops an understanding of the role of responsibility in being a man (as opposed to simply being a fully physically developed human male with the ability to pass on his genetics,) he'll turn out to be a likable person.
So here's a clue, OP, once you reach the age of majority and leave the nest, you,and you alone are responsible for your life. Not me, not your parents, not the government. You.
And if you decide to reproduce (as you have done), you are also responsible for your child. Responsible for what? For everything.
You are responsible to ensure the health, safety and growth to maturity of that child. That includes food, clothing, shelter, education, medical care, the list is endless, and you are responsible. In this case, not solely responsible because the mother shares that responsibility; but that does not relieve you of any part of it, you are still fully responsible for that child.
So, who are you responsible to, you wonder?
Simple. You are responsible to both yourself and to society at large; it is the price for living in society and reaping the rewards of security and opportunity, such as they are, for all of the things I mentioned.
Once you develop the maturity to understand the concept of responsibility, you will see why your sense of entitlement is so misplaced, and why so many readers/posters have told you this in one way or another.
Very likely, you will also develop a sense of shame (that it is so conspicuously absent in this thread) at having demonstrated such an unmanly display of childishness. I suspect that it won't happen before I check out of the net, but it would be a wonderful thing if it did.
You're bright enough, and life gets a lot easier once you realize that getting your own shit together makes life a lot easier to deal with than it is when you constantly have to look for someone else to blame for your failures. You can't fix a problem that you don't understand, and you don't understand that your problem is you, not your dad.
Who, not to derail this, certainly failed you by failing to hang around and teach you this in a less public venue, but it is what it is, and you are out of the nest now, and fully responsible for your life and your child's.
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Rool Kat]
#16306810 - 05/30/12 03:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rool Kat said: The OP has a quick wit and an undeserved sense of entitlement.
The former indicates that he's not stupid, despite how he comes across in this thread.
That's fortunate for the OP. That means that he is merely ignorant, and ignorance is curable, unlike stupidity.
I suspect that if he ever develops an understanding of the role of responsibility in being a man (as opposed to simply being a fully physically developed human male with the ability to pass on his genetics,) he'll turn out to be a likable person.
So here's a clue, OP, once you reach the age of majority and leave the nest, you,and you alone are responsible for your life. Not me, not your parents, not the government. You.
And if you decide to reproduce (as you have done), you are also responsible for your child. Responsible for what? For everything.
You are responsible to ensure the health, safety and growth to maturity of that child. That includes food, clothing, shelter, education, medical care, the list is endless, and you are responsible. In this case, not solely responsible because the mother shares that responsibility; but that does not relieve you of any part of it, you are still fully responsible for that child.
So, who are you responsible to, you wonder?
Simple. You are responsible to both yourself and to society at large; it is the price for living in society and reaping the rewards of security and opportunity, such as they are, for all of the things I mentioned.
Once you develop the maturity to understand the concept of responsibility, you will see why your sense of entitlement is so misplaced, and why so many readers/posters have told you this in one way or another.
Very likely, you will also develop a sense of shame (that it is so conspicuously absent in this thread) at having demonstrated such an unmanly display of childishness. I suspect that it won't happen before I check out of the net, but it would be a wonderful thing if it did.
You're bright enough, and life gets a lot easier once you realize that getting your own shit together makes life a lot easier to deal with than it is when you constantly have to look for someone else to blame for your failures. You can't fix a problem that you don't understand, and you don't understand that your problem is you, not your dad.
Who, not to derail this, certainly failed you by failing to hang around and teach you this in a less public venue, but it is what it is, and you are out of the nest now, and fully responsible for your life and your child's.
Well, I think that was clear enough
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Rool Kat]
#16306815 - 05/30/12 03:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP, $45k a year is SHITTY. Like, REALLY shitty. I made that when I was doing summer co-ops while I was in school.
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Almond Flour]
#16307032 - 05/30/12 04:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Real CA Milk said: Glad to see we all hold the conservative, baptism by fire, ethics that makes this country great 
I'd gladly sacrifice some of my income to help my son achieve success, and get the help he needs to finish school, and enjoy life. As mentioned the old fuck is on antidepressants, and it's easy to see why. And as for Bundy your schizophrenic bro a mental illness that can be argued to be brought on by extreme stress. Ever wonder what Iife would have been like if you had a more stable home and perhaps a compassionate father figure by your side???
You all already know this, but your all scrubs and there is nothing wrong with accepting cash from your family if it's there. For fucks sake some of you are telling me to man the fuck up when you already have the majority of your bills paid for by mommy and daddy 
Hate to break it to you kids, but there is no honor, no one secretly patting you on the back or admiring you because you think life is best served "the hard way" and until you realize that I feel sorry for you that you have to hold such a bitter, and twisted world view to make yourself feel """""SPECIAL""""""
Trust me, you are indeed special though 
You cry for your daddies money and attention. Shutup.
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#16307068 - 05/30/12 05:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Obviously Real CA Milk's dad didn't love him enough as a child.
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: dr_gonz]
#16307121 - 05/30/12 05:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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dr_gonz said: All this time he spends on the internet could be spent working a job. any job.
lazy fuck
Same could be said about me...
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Everlong]
#16307271 - 05/30/12 05:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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same could be said of me... except I work
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16307319 - 05/30/12 05:55 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just needed to fix my car..
And now I need to get it inspected tomorrow and then
job hunting.
I worked one day the other day dish washing but I couldn't stand the manager so I told them I didn't want to work for them. 
EDIT: And it's embarassing washing dishes at 23 I can find better work.
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Everlong]
#16307325 - 05/30/12 05:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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sometimes you have to bite the bullet
I hate my boss, he's a dickhead, always watching over my shoulder to make sure shit is done his way
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#16307530 - 05/30/12 06:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: sometimes you have to bite the bullet
I hate my boss, he's a dickhead, always watching over my shoulder to make sure shit is done his way
Ythan?
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Almond Flour] 1
#16310030 - 05/31/12 04:32 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's been said multiple times, but 45k isn't SHIT. ESPECIALLY in SoCal.
I too live in Socal, I make ~33k a year and barely scrape by, and that's only because my girl pays for most of the food and utilities, she makes about double what I do. I can't really afford to save money, do things I really want to do, go on vacations, etc, I live paycheck to paycheck. I don't go out to drink at bars, shit I don't even really drink except once a month when someone hands me a beer. Don't go out to fancy dinners (unless my girl pays), I don't really spend money on anything aside from my basic entertainment (computer crap and minimal $ for ganj). I don't spend money on frivolous crap. Shit when my car needs basic repairs or maintenance I'm scraping at whatever I can to come up with and cutting corners to do it. And it's just me and my girl in a little cozy 2 bedroom. By the time rent, utilities, car payments, cell phone, gas and food is paid for, I have about 2% of my paycheck left to play with. Even though I don't have all the toys I want, I have a nice place, a working car, clothes, food, all my basic needs taken care of. Life doesn't exactly suck balls
You know what I'm doing to improve my situation? Learning. Getting MOAR certifications. (experience and certifications is all that really matters in my field). Kicking fucking ass at work and getting promoted on the regular. I love the company I work for, so very much. Great place, best job I've ever had, but the pay is a fucking insult for the level of work we provide. The average pay for my job is about 45-50k, and I am making a little over 30 which is verging on criminal. I could go and work for another company doing the exact same thing and make almost double the pay, but I'm in a good position here and I do love the company so I'm sticking it out. They've given me three promotions in the past year alone, but now as a supervisor of the CS team I'm making about what I asked for as a base pay when I first started 2 1/2 years ago. I wrote a rant to the CEO of my company saying how we are the backbone of the company and how underpaid we are, and 2 days later everyone in my dept got a raise, they started paying for 20% of our gas to work, and are now giving performance based bonuses every month. A step in the right direction, but I still want like $10 more an hour. And you know what? I will fucking get it, somehow. Because I'm a persistent stubborn smart motherfucker.
I've never been able to rely on my parents for money. I've been on my own since I was around 16.
Anyway, fuck your Dad, he doesn't really owe you anything. Forge your own path.
Try being homeless for a couple years then maybe you can better appreciate building yourself up with nothing. But oh shit you have a wife and kid, you can't really afford to do that. You have a human being you are responsible for raising into a mature respectable person. Better man up and use your mind to improve your situation. Unless you want to royally fuck it up like many people do, you don't want to suck as bad as YOUR parents, right? End the cycle. You are God. Get priorities straight.
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Re: My dads a fucking ASSHAT (rant inside) [Re: Shroomism]
#16310323 - 05/31/12 07:32 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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That is an incredibly great post! You, sir, have my complete respect! You are the perfect example of not only what a MAN is, but how a MAN deals with his problems.
+5 for you sir! Thanks for this post!
Edit to add: Oh Poop! I can't, I need to go over 50 posts first. Sorry, mate.
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Shroomism said: It's been said multiple times, but 45k isn't SHIT. ESPECIALLY in SoCal.
I too live in Socal, I make ~33k a year and barely scrape by, and that's only because my girl pays for most of the food and utilities, she makes about double what I do. I can't really afford to save money, do things I really want to do, go on vacations, etc, I live paycheck to paycheck. I don't go out to drink at bars, shit I don't even really drink except once a month when someone hands me a beer. Don't go out to fancy dinners (unless my girl pays), I don't really spend money on anything aside from my basic entertainment (computer crap and minimal $ for ganj). I don't spend money on frivolous crap. Shit when my car needs basic repairs or maintenance I'm scraping at whatever I can to come up with and cutting corners to do it. And it's just me and my girl in a little cozy 2 bedroom. By the time rent, utilities, car payments, cell phone, gas and food is paid for, I have about 2% of my paycheck left to play with. Even though I don't have all the toys I want, I have a nice place, a working car, clothes, food, all my basic needs taken care of. Life doesn't exactly suck balls
You know what I'm doing to improve my situation? Learning. Getting MOAR certifications. (experience and certifications is all that really matters in my field). Kicking fucking ass at work and getting promoted on the regular. I love the company I work for, so very much. Great place, best job I've ever had, but the pay is a fucking insult for the level of work we provide. The average pay for my job is about 45-50k, and I am making a little over 30 which is verging on criminal. I could go and work for another company doing the exact same thing and make almost double the pay, but I'm in a good position here and I do love the company so I'm sticking it out. They've given me three promotions in the past year alone, but now as a supervisor of the CS team I'm making about what I asked for as a base pay when I first started 2 1/2 years ago. I wrote a rant to the CEO of my company saying how we are the backbone of the company and how underpaid we are, and 2 days later everyone in my dept got a raise, they started paying for 20% of our gas to work, and are now giving performance based bonuses every month. A step in the right direction, but I still want like $10 more an hour. And you know what? I will fucking get it, somehow. Because I'm a persistent stubborn smart motherfucker.
I've never been able to rely on my parents for money. I've been on my own since I was around 16.
Anyway, fuck your Dad, he doesn't really owe you anything. Forge your own path.
Try being homeless for a couple years then maybe you can better appreciate building yourself up with nothing. But oh shit you have a wife and kid, you can't really afford to do that. You have a human being you are responsible for raising into a mature respectable person. Better man up and use your mind to improve your situation. Unless you want to royally fuck it up like many people do, you don't want to suck as bad as YOUR parents, right? End the cycle. You are God. Get priorities straight.
Edited by Rool Kat (05/31/12 07:35 AM)
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