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killlerr
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Identification, psilocybe semilanceata?
#16309293 - 05/30/12 11:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Habitat: I found these growing on a dead tree stump in Washington.
Gills: dark black or brown its hard to tell.
Stem: there not much more than 2 inches in length.
Cap: Most of them are just light brown but some are darker brown with a black texture.
Spore print color: Didn't get a spore print. Most of them were dried up when i picked them, can i still get a spore print even after they're dried?
Bruising: They didn't seem to get much of an immediate bruise when i squeezed them but today some of the ones i squeezed have dark orange/black bruises. Do mushrooms still bruise if they're dried?
Other information: Ive been checking out all the useful information on this site for months now but never had any reason to create an account and post anything. You guys all seem very knowledgeable, thanks for passing it on to everyone .
Anyway i think these are psilocybe baeocystis or p. semilanceata. They don't have the nipple like semilanceata so i don't think thats what they are, and after seeing more pictures of P. baeocystis i don't think thats what they are either. Im not sure what else these could be. I'm Really, Really tempted to eat some tomorrow , but don't want to eat the wrong thing . Any lookalikes that i can look up? They're already dried by the way, they looked like they were dieing. If these are what i think can i get spores from them even if they're dry?
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: killlerr]
#16309304 - 05/30/12 11:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nope. Sorry man. some species of Coprinoid fungi. Liberty caps will be in grass fields in the fall, not EVER on wood. Start looking for gyms, or ovoids. Not to sound like a dick, but you need to read this if you think those are P. baeocystis or Libs. Baeos are in my sig, along with most other species you find in Washington.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12412007
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: NeoSporen]
#16309429 - 05/31/12 12:27 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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well that sucks i was really hoping I received a special gift in my backyard. Thanks for the info. Is the oprinoid family generally edible anyway?
Edited by killlerr (05/31/12 12:30 AM)
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: killlerr]
#16309445 - 05/31/12 12:32 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not really. They can give some people gastric upset, and some species even have adverse effects when you drink alcohol. If I were you right now, start checking areas that are wood mulch (not that shitty red beauty bark, but wood chips like the stuff from chippers) for Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata and species of Gymnopilus. I found some active gyms in a pile of chips near Seattle just yesterday, so they are out there. , and best of luck man. Fall is approaching
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: NeoSporen]
#16309500 - 05/31/12 12:44 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay thanks for the advise . Il have to do some serious research and go hunting in the mountains. I just found these in my yard and thought they looked like a psychoactive one i saw online. Best of luck to you too, although you probably don't need it.
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: killlerr]
#16309541 - 05/31/12 12:57 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks man, but you're right. Been out the last 16 months spreading mycelium to help out others, bring in some new species, ect. The cascades are a good place to look for gyms in clear cuts on stumps and piles of wood they cut up on landings. For the most part, it's not really active season yet. There are a few ovoid finds here and there, but nothing spectacular. The active season doesn't really start up till about august or so, but people can get lucky before then
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: NeoSporen]
#16309586 - 05/31/12 01:11 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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wow thats cool. okay, I'll try to do some hikes around there. August gives me plenty of time to read up and learn.
Edited by killlerr (05/31/12 01:14 AM)
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: killlerr]
#16309617 - 05/31/12 01:17 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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You'll do just fine if you put some effort into it. For most people, it takes LOTS of time and effort. I was in the same boat when I started, so don't feel bad or anything. Took me probably 40+ hours of actual hunting time in prime season until I found my first actives. That was almost four years ago, and now it's hard not to step on them walking to the grocery store. Washington is quite the magical place, and people from all over the world come here to pick the fungi we have growing.
-------------------- Having lived through an existence close to nature, one accepts the small and simple things as most important in life. Sun, wind, rain and snow. The sounds birds make, smells of fresh wild flowers. Love of all kinds, from friends and family, thy self and our neighbors. Beautiful sunrises to the darkest clouds dancing above in the sky. To forgive, learn, share and express. This is the only thing a man such as myself can ask for. What comes as the result is nothing short of the core of human existence, to truly live free in body and mind.
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: NeoSporen]
#16309645 - 05/31/12 01:25 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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40 hours is quite a bit of searching time for one find. After reading up whatever you read was it easy to distinguish the difference in non active and and active mushrooms? any guides i should checkout?
Edited by killlerr (05/31/12 01:28 AM)
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: killlerr]
#16309671 - 05/31/12 01:34 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh ya. Once you first see some, you will NEVER forget the look. Getting out there is most of the battle. Once you get out regularly, you will start to notice all sorts of cool fungi. After a while, you will see the same ones over and over, but then, you get that first glimpse, and your heart starts to pound like crazy.
There are lots of ways to tell active species apart from inactive ones. Best way is blue bruising (but not all blue bruising species are active. Boletus bicolor is a good example). Purple gills is another thing, along with the purple spore print that comes with those gills, kinda like these. White stems that bruise blue is another one.
P. cyanescens
P. stuntzii
P. baeocystis 
P. cyanofibrillosa 
P. azurescens
-------------------- Having lived through an existence close to nature, one accepts the small and simple things as most important in life. Sun, wind, rain and snow. The sounds birds make, smells of fresh wild flowers. Love of all kinds, from friends and family, thy self and our neighbors. Beautiful sunrises to the darkest clouds dancing above in the sky. To forgive, learn, share and express. This is the only thing a man such as myself can ask for. What comes as the result is nothing short of the core of human existence, to truly live free in body and mind.
Edited by NeoSporen (05/31/12 01:35 AM)
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: NeoSporen]
#16309686 - 05/31/12 01:39 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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bfogg8706 great info man keep it going.
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NeoSporen
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Ok, since I still got half a beer left, I'll toss out some more info.
Mulch beds are the shit for cyans, but not red bark. STAY AWAY FROM RED BARK!!! Old flower beds, parks, walking trails that are wood chipped, tree company dump sites, materials places (like a compost place or somewhere you buy topsoil and mulch). There are THOUSANDS OF PLACES!! Cyans will also grow in grass, and tend to hide well.
Newer housing developments (like 3-10 years old, sometimes a bit older) are great for stuntzii and baeocystis. Look in little community parks, the grass strip between the sidewalk and the road, and in flower beds. Once it gets colder out (october or so) they tend to switch from grass to mulch.
Libs will be found in cow and sheep pastures, along with fields people grow hay in. Try to stay away from the tall, unkept fields since it's too hard to find them in the tall grass. Best bet is a good cow field in a valley. Llama fields work too.
I have only found cyanofibs a few times, and not many others have EVER found it. Only noticed them in grass, but I know they do grow in mulch.
Ovoids will grow in mulch and old flower beds where there is woody debris. They are more common nowadays, and can be found in both spring and fall.
Active Panaeolus species show up in horse pastures and in well kept lawns around August/September, they will look different than Psilocybe species and have BLACK spores. Horse stables that don't use cedar shavings are good places.
Azures are only found in a few areas in this state (but that will change in a year or so). They are found around the coast in dune grass, woody debris, under ferns, in forests, and damn near anywhere. In certain towns, they are almost a pest species.
That's all for now. If you guys have any more questions, feel free to ask.
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: NeoSporen]
#16309728 - 05/31/12 01:52 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks for more info and pics. I'll continue reading up and hopefully I'll be successful this season. I've never really hunted for them but have always been interested in it. I always hear liberty caps are abundant around here but have never really wanted to put in the time to research and hike around for hours. I have seen quite a few different kinds of mushrooms and its just peaked my interest enough to give it a go. Your help has been much appreciated .
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Re: Identification, psilocybe semilanceata? [Re: NeoSporen]
#16309751 - 05/31/12 02:00 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Forgot to add a few others. I'm glad to help, and hope it has helped you out. It becomes addicting, and more often than not, the non-active fungi are the really beautiful/cool looking ones. Don't forget about edible fungi. Washington is one of the best places in the world to hunt for mushrooms, and will continue to blow your mind year after year.
"Friscosas" are found in the same habitat as Cyanescens, and look fairly similar. Sometimes new shopping centers are good places, but for the most part, mulched areas in parks are the way to go.
Psilocybe pelliculosa is found in clear cuts once it starts to get cold (October or November) They look a lot like Hypholoma and Galerina species, and grow very close to deadly galerina, so you MUST be careful. Check clearcuts that are fairly new and replanted with trees, but not too old. You can also find them on trails through doug fir forests in the needle duff.
There are a few more rare species in WA that I will not worry about putting any info out there. Start off with some of the easier ones like cyanescens and stuntzii, then once comfortable, you will start to see all sorts of actives pop out at you.
A few notes to spread spores to help spread species:
-rub spores from old caps on your clothing. -take old caps and rub the bottoms of your shoes. -Take wash water from good specimens and pour that spore solution in habitable areas for that species. -If you end up pulling the fungi from the ground and get a stem butt, put it in a good area where it will grow. -Toss old nasty caps and stems into good areas, they have lots of spores. -If you find a nice patch, leave some of the fruits to drop all their spores and rot. This will help keep good genetics at that area and continue to produce good fruits.

-------------------- Having lived through an existence close to nature, one accepts the small and simple things as most important in life. Sun, wind, rain and snow. The sounds birds make, smells of fresh wild flowers. Love of all kinds, from friends and family, thy self and our neighbors. Beautiful sunrises to the darkest clouds dancing above in the sky. To forgive, learn, share and express. This is the only thing a man such as myself can ask for. What comes as the result is nothing short of the core of human existence, to truly live free in body and mind.
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