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InvisibleLegend
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What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome?
    #16300517 - 05/29/12 11:39 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

My friend got caught at an event with 25i blotters, cops came and found a lot of it in his backpack. I know he'd be pretty fucked if it was LSD, but it was 100% 25i-nbome he laid himself. They say he was selling since someone narced and he had lots of 20's and blotters on him but that was all. I'm worried about what he's going to have to do. Lots of prison, probation, i mean i doubt he will just get off with it unless theres some legal loopholes..
I can't find out whether it is legal or not though, would it not be considered an analogue of 2-cb or mescaline?


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Legend]
    #16300637 - 05/29/12 12:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Preeettty sure it's not illegal yet. I believe I read something about orders being intercepted, but it just hasn't been long enough for it to go through the law system and be outlawed.

So, I would be somewhat relieved if I were you guys.

It's not controlled, so...

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: yabbahabba]
    #16300687 - 05/29/12 12:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

being on blotters may be used as a "form of consumption" though which those chemicals are illegal for :shrug:


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Ghostwriter] * 1
    #16300707 - 05/29/12 12:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

He should have let them think it was LSD and when they sent it to be tested for LSD it would have came back negative so they would most likely think it was bunk. Your friend is a retard.

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Nullface]
    #16300716 - 05/29/12 12:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yeah he really should of said it was just blotter art not even LSD that is self incrimination right there

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #16300748 - 05/29/12 12:32 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I would say that he would be lucky to not get charged with a look a like substance...Where i'm from look a like substances carry the same charge as having the real deal.......


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: jboredone]
    #16300765 - 05/29/12 12:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

all i can think of is get a lawyer and thoroughly educate him on the substance :shrug:

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #16300766 - 05/29/12 12:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Dang. Keep us posted I'm curious to know if someone can get away with being in possession of an RC like that. I everything ends up ok with your friend.

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: jboredone]
    #16300778 - 05/29/12 12:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

From what I understand distribution with the intention that it is going to be consumed is illegal.  It is legal for research purposes only.  The second you dumb ass friend laid it he broke the law.  When he was irresponsibly selling it to people at a concert he broke the law.  He is most certainly fucked. 

Even worse, he is the reason why this will be getting banned in no time.  Kids selling rcs to kids at concerts, kid gets busted/hospitalized/grounded by parents, government then outlaws it...


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: fbi365]
    #16300793 - 05/29/12 12:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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The second you dumb ass friend laid it he broke the law.




it's not illegal to lay onto blotter, it's illegal to consume that blotter paper

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #16300835 - 05/29/12 01:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

A kid i know got caught with a DMT lab, DMT, LSD, and MDMA and got a PTI.
If his parents are well connected and have lots of money he might get away with it, maybe some probation and drug therapy courses

good luck to him

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #16300855 - 05/29/12 01:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Ghostwriter said:
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The second you dumb ass friend laid it he broke the law.




it's not illegal to lay onto blotter, it's illegal to consume that blotter paper




Putting it onto blotter means it's meant for human consumption.  The gray area for RCs being legal is that they're sold "for research purposes only" and must have "Not for human consumption" tags on the labels to all of them.  They can't be legally sold in a form that is intended for human consumption (e.g., on blotter/dosed in capsules/pressed in pills), or in such a way as to imply it (e.g., sending a free tutor with an RC that's meant to be taken intranasally).
Of course, this can all be navigated to some extent by a good lawyer.

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #16300869 - 05/29/12 01:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I'm pretty damn sure just because it is on blotters does not MAKE it for human consumption. That is bullshit. In this case the kid got caught passing it off for human consumption so it is different. Vendors selling it on blotter are not selling it for human consumption....:noyoudidawet:

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #16301243 - 05/29/12 02:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

As far as I know, he never told them what the blotters were, but can they even test for 25i? I'm hoping they come up bunk in the test. keep you guys posted, I haven't talked to him since last night. He's 18 , i'd have to agree he was a dumb ass though.


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Legend]
    #16301288 - 05/29/12 02:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Your friend should get a good lawyer and STFU.


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #16301320 - 05/29/12 02:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I bought blotters as chromatography sample :shrug:

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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16303140 - 05/29/12 09:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Lord_McLovin said:
Your friend should get a good lawyer and STFU.




im sure he will get what he can, so you stfu, i haven't even talked to him. Have no idea if he's in jail or not right now.


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #16303190 - 05/29/12 09:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Ghostwriter said:
being on blotters may be used as a "form of consumption" though which those chemicals are illegal for :shrug:


:popcorn:




Yeah, if they were on tabs then they might as well have been LSD.


Reminds me of when I got my DUI in November last year... I had a pill bottle that had Klonopin 2mg, Xanx .5mg and 1mg, Naproxen, vitamin B12 and some other legal stuff...

During my court date late January I had to provide a doctors note saying I had a valid script for the Klonopin and Xanax. They had to send that shit to the lab to verify each single pill.

What sucked is I didn't get any of my kpins or xanax back, which caused me to run short for the month and needed to get the doc to phone in new scripts.


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #16303348 - 05/29/12 09:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

25i is for research purposes.  For all we know, he is researching the affect 25i has as an additive in the ink for maintaining the quality of the image on the paper.  There are several chemicals that one might research by adding to ink to allow it to bond without losing it's vibrancy, 25i being one of them. 25b, 25c, DOC, DOI, etc.... being others.  If he was selling "doses" then he might be fucked for selling a look-alike substance.  Even a blotter with no chemical on it being sold as "doses" will most likely be charged as a look alike substance.


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #16303386 - 05/29/12 09:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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25i is for research purposes.  For all we know, he is researching the affect 25i has as an additive in the ink for maintaining the quality of the image on the paper.  There are several chemicals that one might research by adding to ink to allow it to bond without losing it's vibrancy, 25i being one of them. 25b, 25c, DOC, DOI, etc.... being others.  If he was selling "doses" then he might be fucked for selling a look-alike substance.  Even a blotter with no chemical on it being sold as "doses" will most likely be charged as a look alike substance.



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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Sheekle]
    #16303432 - 05/29/12 10:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

True, but then you are in the shadiest of the gray areas and ya betta lawya up good son.  And its true that almost anything that is legal, being sold as an illegal drug will get you in trouble 25i=/lsd and the same goes for oregano=/weed.  Even if he was passing off this legal research substance as 25i doses he's prolly in a storm of shit trouble. 

I'm still :facepalm:ing him for acting so carelessly with it.  This is the reason why stuff ends up on the ban list.  And I am just starting to get to enjoy it...


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: fbi365]
    #16304498 - 05/30/12 02:07 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Brilliant? Yeah right. He was at a fucking rave with a research chemical layed onto blotter. Good luck with trying to convince them it wasn't for human consumption.

Sounds like your friend was selling 25i as LSD which is just as illegal as selling LSD but there wasn't a controlled buy so they can't prove this.

This could go either way. They may just see it as some obscure drug that technically isn't illegal or look into it more and see that the way he had it was illegal and he's fucked. Get a lawyer.


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: Legend]
    #16304510 - 05/30/12 02:14 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

eitherway your friend is going to come out of the ordeal worse for ware. your criminal record shows all charges, as well as convictions. even if he doesn't get convicted, and gets off on some kind of technicality, he's still going to have it on his criminal record "trafficking narcotics" and he's going to have to go through all the stress, strain and :uhoh: of dealing with the police and the court process. ontop of that he's more then likely going to have to pay court fees, do drug tests, so on forth. this is all not even counting if he gets convicted...



your friend done goofed. don't sell drugs. :themoreyouknow:


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #16304531 - 05/30/12 02:29 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

MrBlueYoMinds plausible deniability is on. Labs sell 25i and other hard to dose RC's on blotter for research only. Its legal as far as I know. The prosecuters are going to need to use the witness that ran his mouth to prove he was selling them for consumption.

lawyer up as said.


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Re: What would he be looking at for being charged with distribution, and possession of 25i-nbome? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #16304680 - 05/30/12 03:58 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I have 6-APB presses that a few different vendors were selling a while back. Does that seem legal?

Don't think that just because a vendor sells it that way you're going to be fine. Some forums I've been apart of have banned selling rc's laid onto blotter.


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