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Casing pinning on the sides, what to do?
    #1629868 - 06/12/03 10:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

My casing was colonized so heavily by mycelium, it has pulled away from the sides. I'm pretty sure its not because of lack of moisture. There are some shrooms and pins growing out of the sides and i was wondering what i should do after i harvest the first flush. Should i fill the sides with casing material?


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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: mikey420]
    #1629922 - 06/12/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You have major overlay. You could harvest the first flush and then try scratching and putting more casing on or just recasing and fruiting earlier + patching if neccesary.

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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: micro]
    #1629986 - 06/12/03 11:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Are u sure its overlay? I got lots of pins and mushrooms are growing pretty evenly over the entire surface. I think my strain (cambodian) just heavily colonizes the casing before pinning


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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: mikey420]
    #1630005 - 06/12/03 11:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Oh -- sorry misread.

Yeah -- the casing will do that. Won't hurt it. It uses up stuff in the substrate/casing like water so it shrinks. Light will usually get in the sides when this happens.

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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: micro]
    #1630014 - 06/12/03 11:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So what should i do before the next flush? Should i put casing material in the sides? Should I dunk? any suggestions?


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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: mikey420]
    #1630029 - 06/12/03 11:31 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

No; don't bother. Just mist/fan each day and take care of it as usual. Fruiting from the sides won't really hurt anything.

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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: mikey420]
    #1630038 - 06/12/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

A FOAF had a similar issue. After the first flush, dunk it in the container (12 hours) and then pull it out of the container and let it fruit like a big cake. This worked well (for him) and although the first flush was the best the second and third put out pretty well from top and side.
It seems that clear containers are not the best to fruit in. Even clear containers with duct tape wrapped around the side to block out light. A dark container may help stop the side shrooms from coming out. This is where my friend is at with experimentation.
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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: micro]
    #1630039 - 06/12/03 11:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for the help, bro. I really appreciate it. This is my first time cultivating and my fruits look great!!!


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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: mikey420]
    #1630053 - 06/12/03 11:44 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

He dunked it with the casing?!?!

I have this happen all the time; doesn't cause a problem so I don't mind. I've even stopped putting foil around the bottoms, mostly due to laziness, I'll admit.

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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: mikey420]
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Re: Casing pinning on the sides, what to do? [Re: Anno]
    #1630519 - 06/13/03 03:36 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

When this happens to me (all the time, they always shrink over time), I pour sterilized moist vermiculite down the sides. Vermiculite pours in better than coir or peat, and holds moisture just as well. There is no packing it in there as with coir, much more efficient.

You really should place something down the sides to keep light out of there. If pins form there they could be deep down, making them hard to remove. If pins form, then aborts will be present that also must be removed. It is much better picking from the top IMO than digging down the sides of a casing.

I have also dunked a casing in H2O2 solution with water between a flush. It rehydrated the casing so much it barely fit back into the container. I really found no benefit from this, so I have since abandoned the practice. Now all that is done is the above technique, along with proper watering as necessary all through the fruiting cycle. The mycelium will absorb water from the casing layer also, instead of using the substrate as its only source.

Shrinkage is normal over time, them mushies must eat something :wink:

Also, just a side note:
Duct tape is breeding grounds for molds and mildew... I will never use it again in a moist environment. 


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