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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1631678 - 06/13/03 05:46 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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You didn't answer my question though. If the penalty for possession of Cannabis was death, would you still say what you said above?



Yes. The law, while stupid, is well known. If the consequences are more than you want to pay, don't do the crime.




So basically you should take any consequence for breaking a law, regardless of the crime, just because it's the law? Would you say the same again if owning a firearm was made punishable by death?


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1631681 - 06/13/03 05:48 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

maybe "whining" about unjust imprisonment IS an effective way of changing the law.

the point is that the "consequences" of commiting a minor offense shouldn't involve assrape. that is called cruel and unusual punishment. if the punishment fit the crime, I don't think anyone would be complaining.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: Edame]
    #1631714 - 06/13/03 06:05 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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So basically you should take any consequence for breaking a law, regardless of the crime, just because it's the law? Would you say the same again if owning a firearm was made punishable by death?



It doesn't matter what law you break. If you are willing to do so, be willing to suffer the consequences. That goes for firearms as well as drugs.

I would break the law should that happen. If caught I'd do my time because no-one forced me to break that law. I made the decision.

And stop asking. I've answered several times now. My answer isn't going to change no matter how many times you ask.

It's called personal responsibility and accepting the consequences of your decision.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1631723 - 06/13/03 06:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

You didn't see me say ass rape should be a consequence of anything.

And since it is not a punishment handed out by the state, it wouldn't be covered by "cruel and unusual".

There should be NO punishment for drug use. Since there is, accept the risk while working to change the law, or don't violate the law. No matter how stupid the law is.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1631737 - 06/13/03 06:15 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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And since it is not a punishment handed out by the state, it wouldn't be covered by "cruel and unusual".



But shouldn't the government provide sufficient protection from such acts? It seems in this case that they failed to do so.


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Edited by silversoul7 (06/13/03 06:15 PM)


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1631743 - 06/13/03 06:19 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Government wants you to...

accept the risk while working to change the law, or don't violate the law. No matter how stupid the law is.

Work, eat, sleep, etc...etc...etc...

I dont follow stupid laws i dont agree with, and im not prepared to accept consequence for victimless crimes.



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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: silversoul7]
    #1631952 - 06/13/03 07:54 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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But shouldn't the government provide sufficient protection from such acts? It seems in this case that they failed to do so.




As long as you remember I also said "You didn't see me say ass rape should be a consequence of anything" I'll agree. He got a "bum" deal.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1631961 - 06/13/03 07:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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I dont follow stupid laws i dont agree with,



Neither do I.


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and im not prepared to accept consequence for victimless crimes.



Gosh. What a great defense. I'm sure that you'll easily sway the judge with that.

Doesn't matter if you're prepared or not.... does it?

You'll suffer the consequences whether you're prepared to or not.

Now unless you can raise some new, mind boggling further points.... what's the point in dragging this on?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1632001 - 06/13/03 08:22 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

its disgusting that they don't do anything to prevent sexual abuse in jails, we are not animals, we are human beings, and deserve to be treated like such, even in jail.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: ]
    #1632006 - 06/13/03 08:24 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Glad you agree with me.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1632007 - 06/13/03 08:26 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

*high five*


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1632011 - 06/13/03 08:28 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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You didn't see me say ass rape should be a consequence of anything.





Well you did say this (my emphasis):

While I think all drugs should be legal, if you break the law you must be willing to accept any consequences.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: Edame]
    #1632018 - 06/13/03 08:33 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Holy crap man.

Polite words escape me.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1632016 - 06/13/03 08:33 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Passing on a double yellow line: Manditory minimum 8 years.






Woa woa woa thats a little harsh dont you think. While I agree on the others, haven't you ever been driving and spilled your drink on yourself and accidentally crossed the double yellow? What are you a Nazi?


Edited by Meat_Log_Smurf (06/13/03 08:41 PM)


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1632021 - 06/13/03 08:35 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Why? All I did was quote something you already said.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentence [Re: Yeti_009]
    #1632025 - 06/13/03 08:37 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeti when your ass looks like the hello.jpg I'm sure it knda scares people off. Im sure your an attractive guy though dont feel too bad.


Edited by Meat_Log_Smurf (06/13/03 08:38 PM)


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1632096 - 06/13/03 09:30 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Doesn't matter if you're prepared or not.... does it?

You'll suffer the consequences whether you're prepared to or not.





I agree with that part, what I don't see is the benefit of not whining?

On a side note I have to say getting punished for posession is different from getting punished for selling. In the former the victim was just mnding their own business. In the latter, the victim was benefiting from the law... Essentially gambling with their freedom. If someone uses a law to proffit from it, and it bites them on the ass, well that's all part of doing business, much as if someone had gambled their whole life savings away. They played the game and lost. I feel sorry for them, and would rather they had won but, when you buy/sell drugs you're paying for/getting paid for the risk involved, not the product itself.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1632338 - 06/14/03 12:53 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: ]
    #1632456 - 06/14/03 01:46 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I kept a guy in my basement for a year for posession of magazine subscriptions with intent to sell.


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Re: College student raped while serving weekend jail sentenc [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1632851 - 06/14/03 11:11 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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