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Can masturbation be spiritual? * 1
    #14116113 - 03/13/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Lots of people into New Age or Eastern spirituality like to talk about "sacred sexuality."  Interest in tantric sex is growing in the West, and it's easy to see how a sexual encounter can feel spiritually liberating.  But what about masturbation?  Is there any way of making that a kind of spiritual or sacred exercise?  I have to say that it's certainly never felt very spiritual to me.  What's more, I've heard that tantric practitioners tend to frown on masturbation, since the point in their practice is to avoid ejaculation.  So what say you?  Do you find anything spiritual or transcendent in masturbation?


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Silversoul] * 1
    #14116121 - 03/13/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

  Can masturbation be spiritual?

as much as anything can.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #14116226 - 03/13/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I got a nice size book by Mantak Chia. The whole book is basically about using masturbation and sex to energize the body and chakras with the sexual energy. Sexual energy can be generated with masturbation or sex. Or other ways its about experimenting.

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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: p4kSouL] * 1
    #14116257 - 03/13/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Silversoul] * 3
    #14116837 - 03/13/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Only if you wear special clothing and build up a bunch of guilt around it.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Silversoul] * 1
    #14116891 - 03/13/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, it can be an energetic yoga practice, especially if you try to go as long as you can without busting every time.  I'm pretty sure that makes your dick bigger.  Dunno for sure.  And yeah, hand in hand with that is doing it less, because of the spiritual consequences of being a master bater.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #14117311 - 03/13/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You can use the moment of orgasm as gnosis for various chaos magic practices.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #14117318 - 03/13/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There's gno way that'll work.:nonono:


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #14117555 - 03/14/11 12:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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deCypher said:
You can use the moment of orgasm as gnosis for various chaos magic practices.




yeah it takes you deep into yourself

you could make a sigil and then concentrate on it while jacking off.

something tells me that might warp your results though :lol:


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #14118013 - 03/14/11 03:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander said:
  Can masturbation be spiritual?

as much as anything can.





*looks out the window for a comet, or flying pigs*


I'm still a little shocked, but I have to say that I agree with Icelander. ( :lol: I jest)

Have a look for the book "Modern Sex Magick" by Donald Michael Kraig. He is a really excellent occult author, and that's one of the better books on the subject I've seen.

It has a whole chapter devoted to "monofocal" sex magick. 

His first book, Modern Magick is also good, being the best introductory and overview of western/golden dawn magick I've seen.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Silversoul] * 1
    #14118827 - 03/14/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
Lots of people into New Age or Eastern spirituality like to talk about "sacred sexuality."  Interest in tantric sex is growing in the West, and it's easy to see how a sexual encounter can feel spiritually liberating.  But what about masturbation?  Is there any way of making that a kind of spiritual or sacred exercise?  I have to say that it's certainly never felt very spiritual to me.  What's more, I've heard that tantric practitioners tend to frown on masturbation, since the point in their practice is to avoid ejaculation.  So what say you?  Do you find anything spiritual or transcendent in masturbation?




It can be if you were to speak of the buildup of energy etc, orgasms in general can be spiritual. One of the most spiritual experiences I had in my lifetime was during sex on L.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #14124354 - 03/15/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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guruu said:
Quote:

deCypher said:
You can use the moment of orgasm as gnosis for various chaos magic practices.




yeah it takes you deep into yourself

you could make a sigil and then concentrate on it while jacking off.

something tells me that might warp your results though :lol:




Anton Szandor LeVey taught the use of masturbation in ritual magick in The Satanic Bible, late at night when the object of your intentions was sleeping. The sexual discharge fired the thought form into the aethyr. I remember using that practice in ceremonial magick when I was quite young. Instead of my conscious object of lust getting the message (wouldn't it have been easier just to call her up and ask her out?), all of a sudden, my friend's nymphomaniac girlfriend began to show up at my parents' house at all hours, throwing stones at my window to wake me up in the middle of the night. You always have to watch your unconscious, but in magickal practices with some anecdotal evidence of effectiveness, you really have to be aware of it.  :wink:


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 1
    #14124358 - 03/15/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:rofl: classic


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Silversoul] * 1
    #16272875 - 05/23/12 12:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Next time you find yourself pleasuring yourself. Close your eyes right before ejaculation and envision a huge amount of energy  being released and then arching up the front and going into your back. WOW!

You would be amazed at how much energy is attained and dispersed upon the chakras by the simple act of focus, eyes closed, and intention....

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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Saint Marcus] * 1
    #16281696 - 05/25/12 12:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I lol'd at the title of this thread

Post above me might be able to make it spiritual, I dunno.

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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: AshamedPakiHenna] * 1
    #16281800 - 05/25/12 01:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Sometimes Freyja is a redhead, other times she is blond, I contemplate her everyday.

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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: usulpsychonaut] * 1
    #16282730 - 05/25/12 09:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think that caving in to desire is not a very lofty spiritual goal. If you can do it without it being this, then maybe. Easy to make excuses about this kind of thing though.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Silversoul] * 1
    #16283415 - 05/25/12 01:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

One time I was alone in my room peaking on 12 tabs of acid, and I felt like I was in a realm completely beyond my body.  Not totally an OBE, but as though I was floating 3 feet above my physical being.  I closed my eyes and the visions were at the core of sexuality for me.  I felt like masturbating.  I was imagining I had found a beautiful genuine girl, the essence of femininity, my true love, someone who understood me down to every cell in my being.  We were having the most passionate and intense sex, then moments later we were climbing these huge rock formations looking into each others eyes.  Then running along a field, and having more sex.  I felt orgasm approaching, and I can't really find words to describe what happened, but it seemed as though this fantasy turned into a worm-hole and sucked me in, like the universe's vagina grasping me.  Soon to follow was among the most intense orgasms of my life.  My body was shaking from the pleasure overload. 

Was this a spiritual endeavor?  More like a stunning egoic fantasy to the nth degree, but nevertheless, I think masturbation is still an important and misunderstood form of human expression that gets a bad wrap from these "oh-so spiritual" yogis and gurus.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: analogkid2112] * 1
    #16284603 - 05/25/12 06:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Uh.....no. Grow up. masturbation drains your soul.


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Re: Can masturbation be spiritual? [Re: Luueschen] * 1
    #16285205 - 05/25/12 08:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Uh.....no. Grow up. masturbation drains your soul.




after giving you a "little death"


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