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Katadyn water microfilters.
#16248231 - 05/18/12 12:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, my girl and I have been looking into nice water filters for our journeys and we came across this.
http://www.amazon.com/Katadyn-8013618-Pocket-Water-Microfilter/dp/B0007U00YE/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1337322351&sr=1-3
Does anyone have any experience with Katadyn? If so, what is your experience and thoughts about the product?
Any other nice brand suggestions?
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Raven Gnosis]
#16252978 - 05/19/12 03:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Katadyn makes very excellent filters. They are pricey as hell too. MSR and Katadyn make some of the best ones imo
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Shroomism]
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Freedom]
#16394953 - 06/17/12 12:27 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Love my Katadyn - used on plenty of trips and never had any dirty water come through, even in pretty nasty water
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Raven Gnosis]
#16432681 - 06/24/12 07:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Katdyn and MSR make good products, but for the love of God, just buy iodine or bleach. Filters get ridiculously clogged after a few hundred miles and they are expensive to replace. Also, it takes a long ass time to filter after they get a lot of use, even when you're cleaning them frequently. After a long day on the trail, you don't wanna spend a half hour pumping a gallon of water.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16434351 - 06/25/12 04:59 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappateer said: Katdyn and MSR make good products, but for the love of God, just buy iodine or bleach. Filters get ridiculously clogged after a few hundred miles and they are expensive to replace. Also, it takes a long ass time to filter after they get a lot of use, even when you're cleaning them frequently. After a long day on the trail, you don't wanna spend a half hour pumping a gallon of water.
What else is there to do when u hit camp....
I've used one twice now. I was very impressed the first time because my group had a new one, but. The second time we use an older one and it was very hard to pump and felt like the pump could brak easily. I have an msr mini works filter myself...."it's pretty good and you can snag them for 60 when on sale 
Edit: I have not used the more expensive version you posted, but it has great reviews. I used the cheaper one another guy linked up above
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Edited by Almond Flour (06/25/12 05:03 AM)
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Almond Flour]
#16436106 - 06/25/12 02:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Real CA Milk said:
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zappateer said: Katdyn and MSR make good products, but for the love of God, just buy iodine or bleach. Filters get ridiculously clogged after a few hundred miles and they are expensive to replace. Also, it takes a long ass time to filter after they get a lot of use, even when you're cleaning them frequently. After a long day on the trail, you don't wanna spend a half hour pumping a gallon of water.
What else is there to do when u hit camp....
Lol, when you're hiking with a group of people and they treat their water chemically, trust me, you do not want to be the one alone, pumping at the water hole. You wanna be part of the fun!
Trust me, I'm an AT thru hiker. Pump filters are great for 50-100 miles but then they get progressively harder and harder to pump and it takes for fuck ever.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16439030 - 06/26/12 01:58 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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pump filters are great as long as you keep up on them..
oil, cleaning etc, which you can all do on the trail.
i do always have a small little thingy of bleach on me.
but fuck i would rather have pumped water than bleached or iodined water if i can avoid it.
grease will solve most of you pumping problems.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: rackem]
#16440074 - 06/26/12 11:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Difficulty moving the pump isn't the problem. It's the great degree of time requ'd for the water to pass thru the filter when the filter gets dirty. Yes, I know you can clean a filter with the sponge they give you, but that only does a cursory job. Pumps are absolutely impractical. The lighter your pack, the happier you will be. Trust me I hiked 1700 miles with a pump last summer. Then 500 without one. I was much happier for the final 500 miles.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16440089 - 06/26/12 11:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappateer said: Difficulty moving the pump isn't the problem. It's the great degree of time requ'd for the water to pass thru the filter when the filter gets dirty. Yes, I know you can clean a filter with the sponge they give you, but that only does a cursory job. Pumps are absolutely impractical. The lighter your pack, the happier you will be. Trust me I hiked 1700 miles with a pump last summer. Then 500 without one. I was much happier for the final 500 miles.
Im jealous not about the chemical loaded water you drank, but the fact you hiked through the AT trail HOw the hell did you find the time and money to do so!? Mainly the time?
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Almond Flour]
#16444536 - 06/27/12 09:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm just a 22 year old boy with no wife, kids, mortgage, car payment, etc. so I was able to save up a few grand and drop off the grid for five months! It was totally worth it, I had the time of my life.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16445513 - 06/27/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll carry the 8 ounces or whatever of filter weight rather than drink bleach/iodine water any day. But I know how those AT crazies are about their aqua mira. It's not for me though. And yeah if you clean and maintain the filter regularly it pumps just fine.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Shroomism]
#16445698 - 06/27/12 02:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, it doesn't. Ever put 400 miles on one? I'd clean mine every use and still take a half hour to filter a gallon.
Also, there are a lot of little parts that are prone to break.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16446236 - 06/27/12 04:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappateer said: No, it doesn't. Ever put 400 miles on one? I'd clean mine every use and still take a half hour to filter a gallon.
Also, there are a lot of little parts that are prone to break.
What filter did you use
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Almond Flour]
#16446267 - 06/27/12 04:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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2. The first one was the 16 oz. kind made by MSR. The second was the 11 oz Katadyn Stream one. Both were great for the first week or two, but then they get clogged ridiculously and you can only do so much to clean them. That's why the filters are replaceable. They're expected to clog up with use. Filters are great for 1 to 2 week trips, but then you're just gonna have to pay another $50 for a new filter (not a new pump) for the next trip.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16584412 - 07/25/12 04:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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i got a katadyn mini (ceramic only) on amazon awhile back used for 50$ (thats like half price) replacement filters cost around that much too (its not fun and slow i use agave fiber scrubby pads and i carry the crap to clean my water via iodine/bleach/solar radiation/boiling should the need arise. :warning: ceramic can and will crack in freezing weather when wet rendering it useless :warning:
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: pen15]
#16586150 - 07/25/12 12:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I also don't like pumps. They have left me hanging, and get to be a pain after a lot of use. You also really need to trust the seal depending on the model.
Saying that I have used many different types of pump filters, and I think Katadyn pictured above is one of the better ones.
Where I hike I have clear clean water, and I love my Steripen. Steripen isn't for everyone though, so hike your own hike, but it works great for me. Many places I go I don't need to treat the water at all.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16586406 - 07/25/12 01:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappateer said: 2. The first one was the 16 oz. kind made by MSR. The second was the 11 oz Katadyn Stream one. Both were great for the first week or two, but then they get clogged ridiculously and you can only do so much to clean them. That's why the filters are replaceable. They're expected to clog up with use. Filters are great for 1 to 2 week trips, but then you're just gonna have to pay another $50 for a new filter (not a new pump) for the next trip.
My friend has an MSR one. Back when I did a Sabbatis trek with the BSA up in upstate NY, it worked beautifully. It was a 6 or 7 day trip and he had to clean it a good bit, but shit, we'd be in our canoes and pass that thing back and forth between us, and filter out nalgene bottles worth of water in a few minutes, as we were rowing. Just threw the tip in the lake, let the other kid paddle, and brewed up some tasty clean water straight from the lake. I loved that thing. Out in Philmont, New Mex they supplied us with the iodine tablets. I wasn't a big fan of them. Made the water taste shitty and IDK, overall wasn't a fan. Thankfully a couple of our campsites had good water taps you could just drink straight.
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The poor taste of the iodine can be negated with asorbic acid (vitamin C). Often it's included with iodine tablets. Like I said, pump filters are great for one-two week trips. If you had kept canoeing for a week or week and a half you would have wanted a new filter. Not that you couldn't use it. It would just take forever.
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Re: Katadyn water microfilters. [Re: Liverwort]
#16588000 - 07/25/12 06:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh I totally agree. Even towards the end of the one week that thing was getting to be a bitch to pump.
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