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Offlinemanna_man
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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1624322 - 06/10/03 08:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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I think the evolution of language and the invention of the transistor are the two most amazing things we've done so far




Although creation of language is quite an amazing accomplishment, I believe it hinders our capabilities of communication and growth as a species. With language comes many restrictions, and words can only express so much. What if we (humans) never discovered our ability to speak? After X thousand years of human evolution, we would probably discover a way to develop a different form of communication that relies only on emotions. Or it's possible that we would naturally develop some sort of telekenesis? Who knows? But I truly believe language, as in spoken/written word, is a rather ineffective way of truly expressing oneself/communicating when considering the "potential" of our species.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: manna_man]
    #1624454 - 06/10/03 09:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

So until we accomplish peace, we should not drive our cars, enjoy a hot shower, eat cooked food, take medicine, wear clothes, play with our toys, communicate via telephone or the internet, etc.

I think what he was trying to say is let's not all get up and rejoice over the things that we have when the ultimate goal hasn't been achieved yet...

Remember Super Mario Brothers (The Original) for Nintendo? On the first level, when you got that fireflower, you didn't get up and start dancing around like an idiot until you actually jumped up onto that flag by the castle....

Get what I'm sayin'??


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: manna_man]
    #1624458 - 06/10/03 09:06 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

the psychadelic experience


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: manna_man]
    #1624517 - 06/10/03 09:22 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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With language comes many restrictions, and words can only express so much.




What is it they can't express?

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After X thousand years of human evolution, we would probably discover a way to develop a different form of communication that relies only on emotions.




Uh....Yeah, Ok. So then I could only tell if you were happy, sad, mad, etc. How could I tell you to turn on the light?

That really doesn't make any sense to me. Why would a species develop telepathy (by the way, telekinesis is the power to move objects with your mind) before they had developed language. If it is possible it should be the other way around, or the way it is now. Also, if it would have been a more desirable way of evolving, shouldn't at least one species on earth have evolved this way?

This just had me thinking as well. By all accounts I have ever heard or read, many of the world's whales and elephants, and even dolphins, technically have a more advanced brain structure than us. Isn't it likely that they would be more adept at telelpathy. Why do they still use vocalizations if telepathy is real?

As for me, I don't want to communicate telepathically. I don't want people to always know what I think.

But to get back on subject, I say language and science are our greatest achievements. To be more specific, nuclear science including the bomb and genetic engineering.


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InvisibleTheDude
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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1624712 - 06/10/03 10:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

the pyramids. It blows my mind to think about them and I really want to see them for myself one day.

Runners Up: Portable Fire, Walking on the Moon, iPod....


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: TheDude]
    #1624829 - 06/10/03 11:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I have to think that our learning how work in a team is our biggest achievement. Sure we've done all kinds of cool shit with science and whatnot, but if it wasn't for good, reliable teamwork we'd have never made it out of the caves to try the rest of this stuff... Think about it. How hard would it be for one man to kill a Mammoth? They have found fosilized remains of bears that were 7 ft. tall at the shoulder and could run down a horse. We'd have never survived and spread as a species without our ability to work together.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: TheDude]
    #1624865 - 06/10/03 11:13 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Runners Up: Portable Fire, Walking on the Moon, iPod....




i have long said that BIC lighters are our closest thing to magic for the masses. to produce fire on demand... wow.

walking on the moon.... haw haw, and you believe we actually did this? i don't.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: debianlinux]
    #1625029 - 06/10/03 11:59 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

As I wrote 'moon landing' I knew somebody would respond by saying "you believe that"? Until me or a family member/friend gets there, I won't really believe it, but so far I have no reason to doubt it either. I'm just patienly awaiting the day I get to go into space...30 years?


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: TheDude]
    #1625199 - 06/11/03 12:49 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Like someone else said.


The internet is by far ATLEAST one of the greatest achievments in human history.


Its taken home business to a whole new level, and equally has taken the spread of knowledge and information to a new level.

I dont believe the internet has yet hit its peak either.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1625282 - 06/11/03 01:13 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with that. I have wondered for some time now how it will effect our evolution. Now I know there are several theories on what or how we evolve, but I think that we likely do respond to outside influences by evovling or adapting to it. With knowledge so readily available, will our capacity for learning increase with it. Especially because children are exposed to it as well. In some respects I think this has already happened. Children have an incredible capacity for learning and by just exposing to them to more information, in a form they can understand and enjoy, they seem to absorb more. But will this "information explosion" actually cause human evolution to adapt to it?


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1625317 - 06/11/03 01:23 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

MDMA


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1625329 - 06/11/03 01:29 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I guess it depends on what is meant by "greatest"....

Religion seems to have done alot for a select few (like the Pope and Osama bin Laden). It may be more powerful than heroin, but don't quote me on that.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1625584 - 06/11/03 04:16 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

>Like someone else said.
>The internet is by far ATLEAST one of the greatest achievments in human history.

that wuz me, that wuz me...  :smile:
Yeah, in think the Internet is an amazing achievement...
along with Prozac (I'm all for the headonistic imperitive) and
edible undies... 


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1625658 - 06/11/03 05:50 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I believe the greatest human achievement is yet to come. It will be, if ever, global peace.

MAIA


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: manna_man]
    #1625678 - 06/11/03 06:11 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I think speech is our greatest achievement to date.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: Paid]
    #1625772 - 06/11/03 07:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

the stringed instrument


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: Grav]
    #1625890 - 06/11/03 09:38 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

drugs.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: manna_man]
    #1625934 - 06/11/03 10:18 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I believe it (language) hinders our capabilities of communication ...

Then why are you communicating this post using language? Please choose an alternate non-hindering method.


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: Swami]
    #1625942 - 06/11/03 10:25 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

:smirk:


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Re: greatest human achievement? [Re: Paid]
    #1625953 - 06/11/03 10:36 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The guiltless one night stand.


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