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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: ]
    #1618036 - 06/08/03 09:57 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

hell is what you make of it. evil lies only in those who live.

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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: MistaSmokupalot]
    #1618258 - 06/08/03 11:50 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Drugs are out there, alcohol, sex, everything...well those are, as I call them. the devils' temptations, very tempting arn't they ?

yes... all these things are BAD... just listen to the preacher blessing the troops as they go off to kill and maim the "enemy" in the name of jesus......yes.... we have it all "right".

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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: World Spirit]
    #1618311 - 06/08/03 12:17 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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It's your choice whether you want to do good things and create good karma. It's another thing if you want to be mean (ie evil) and do things that create very, very ugly karma.




Karma is neither good or bad, its a neutral principle that governs energy and motion of thought and deed.
"In the highest sense, there is no good or bad karma. All experience offers opportunities for spiritual growth. Selfless acts yield positive, uplifting conditions. Selfish acts yield conditions of negativity and confusion."



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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: ]
    #1618384 - 06/08/03 01:14 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: Cougheeman]
    #1618388 - 06/08/03 01:17 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: World Spirit]
    #1618546 - 06/08/03 02:58 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, if you use the informal statement then yes. I was thinking you were using the Hinduism & Buddhism def. In its true Hindu rooted form, there is no positive, negative forms; it is just karma. Einstein's statement does explain the law of Karma, every action has a opposite and equal reaction; but since karma is a necessary condition in life it can be neither good nor bad.



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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: ]
    #1618576 - 06/08/03 03:12 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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Drugs are out there, alcohol, sex, everything...well those are, as I call them. the devils' temptations, very tempting arn't they ?

yes... all these things are BAD... just listen to the preacher blessing the troops as they go off to kill and maim the "enemy" in the name of jesus......yes.... we have it all "right".




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i never really bought into the whole devil hell thing...
i think they're is balance..
and if there is some supreme being...wouldn't it play both roles?


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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: Cougheeman]
    #1618634 - 06/08/03 03:35 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

"Einstein's statement does explain the law of Karma, every action has a opposite and equal reaction;"
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Wasn't that Newton? AKA His Third Law?


[* Edit- He was the one who got struck in the head by the fallen "apple"... As the story goes... ]



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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: Strumpling]
    #1618644 - 06/08/03 03:38 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

"...then is GOD DOG?"
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That may have merit if you make an important conceptual consideration:

Man's best Friend !!!  :smile:

 


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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1618852 - 06/08/03 05:05 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

yup it was. :smile: 


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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: Cougheeman]
    #1618913 - 06/08/03 05:59 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Ouch



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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: silversoul7]
    #1619939 - 06/09/03 03:12 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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This assumes that god is good, which I do not believe to be the case. God is neither good nor evil. Good and evil are things that can only be experienced subjectively. They are of no consequence for god




Nope, this assumes that god is no more than a word or a generalization for Good, and the devil is no more than a word or a generalization for evil. Good and evil both exist, the are the same thing, just diferent ends of the spectrum so to speak, like oposite poles on the same magnet. God is the name give to one end of the spectrum, good, Satan given to the other, evil. Good and evil are nothing more than manifestations of our own consciousness, as are god and satan. To think of god a a bearded figure in the clouds is false. God is everything, as is Satan.(again, these are only words for universal concepts) God is just the "good" side in everything, Satan the "bad" or "evil". Moreover, There is no such thing as good and evil it is all relative to he who precieves the good/evil. One person could see tourturing infants as evil, someone else could see it as good. Niether is right or wrong. There is no good or evil, there just IS. anything more than that is a matter of subjective preception. So in that sense, God is not good or evil, god just is, same with satan. Generally speaking, most people have an opinion as to what they consider good and what they consider evil. While this differes from person to person, the one remaining constant is that what one precieves as good in some way becomes their god.(I don't mean anything that's good, like ice cream, i'm going a little beyond that, but i'm trying to keep this relatively short) This is why satan worshipers hold satan (just a name for evil, really) as thier god, and the christian god as the evil being, the bad. In the same way, Christian's Hold their redeamer to be god and satan to be the bad one, the evil. Niether side is right or wrong. They just are.


This being said, you can not have good with out evil/god without satan just like you can not have a magnet with a positive pole and no negative pole, you can not have an in without an out, an up without a down, a back without a front, and so on. When you say these are of no consequence for god you are only correct if you are thinking of god as the all being one rather than god being the mighty power/creator of the universe. God is not that, God power itself, creation itself. God is everything and is one, as many have experienced in some way while tripping. This would mean that god and satan are one and the same. are good and evil and nothing and everything at the same time.


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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: thestringphish]
    #1620961 - 06/09/03 02:10 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

...Now that's just blasphemy.

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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: Adamist]
    #1622537 - 06/09/03 10:40 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

good


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Re: Another reason why the concept of the devil is bullshit [Re: thestringphish]
    #1622649 - 06/09/03 11:19 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I want more!  :grin: 


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