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Haifisch
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Scopoderm and Scopolamine
#16067042 - 04/09/12 07:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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For a long, long time now I've been on the fence about taking Deliriants at least once. Not because I think I'd enjoy it, but because it's something so unique that I feel it's another breakthrough I need to make (much like finally reaching a level 4-5 trip on psychedelics, but less profound.)
I have a fair ease of access to both Datura and DPH, but I also know that New Zealand has Scopolamine (the main active ingredient in Datura) patches called Scopoderm, and was wondering if anyone out there has experiences with Scopolamine patches, or deliriants in general.
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flickedbic
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Re: Scopoderm and Scopolamine [Re: Haifisch]
#16067540 - 04/09/12 09:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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4 or 5 Datura inoxia seeds help in dreaming.
The root is used for visionary puroses.
Combo with Cramp barkQuote:
I don't know if scopoletin is the key ingredient in cramp bark that allows you to reach visual effects from Datura at much lower, safer doses
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Re: Scopoderm and Scopolamine [Re: flickedbic]
#16068783 - 04/10/12 05:07 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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When virtual reality comes out, the first Datura simulators are going to be pretty controversial.
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Frylor
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Re: Scopoderm and Scopolamine [Re: 5-HT2A]
#16068950 - 04/10/12 06:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would use datura, but first establish one specific plants strength with a few small doses
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Haifisch
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Re: Scopoderm and Scopolamine [Re: Frylor]
#16073040 - 04/10/12 10:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Might do the small dose method then. Also there seems to be a plant that has the Trumpet Flowers indicative of Datura, but it's more of a vine (grows tall and always within other plants.) Also it has no seedpods, anyone know what plant that is?
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s240779

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Re: Scopoderm and Scopolamine [Re: Haifisch]
#16073236 - 04/10/12 11:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Look up plants that contain tropane alkaloids in The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants.
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Seriously_Spaced
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Re: Scopoderm and Scopolamine [Re: Haifisch]
#16073913 - 04/11/12 03:18 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Haifisch said: For a long, long time now I've been on the fence about taking Deliriants at least once. Not because I think I'd enjoy it, but because it's something so unique that I feel it's another breakthrough I need to make (much like finally reaching a level 4-5 trip on psychedelics, but less profound.)
I have a fair ease of access to both Datura and DPH, but I also know that New Zealand has Scopolamine (the main active ingredient in Datura) patches called Scopoderm, and was wondering if anyone out there has experiences with Scopolamine patches, or deliriants in general.
If you havent tried 25inbome you should try that just 750mcg had me going on the most powerfull trip ive ever had defeniatley level 4-5.However i would shy away from deleriants if i were you deliriants are not consider a good trip for me.If you are looking for a level 4-5 trip id look into lsd or current rcs.I have some scoploderm around the house i could try it for you make sure its safe Even though I HATE DELERIANTS
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Haifisch
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If you DO try that Scopoladerm let me know how it goes.
And yeah, I'm a big fan of LSD and should probably consider something like taking a Heroic Dose (Hard here because in NZ it's like $30US a tab) before taking Deliriants. But at the same time I've always wanted to /Del/ve so I might just go with DPH, I'm not expecting anything pleasant as I've read up on it a lot, but I still want to try it at least once.
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Re: Scopoderm and Scopolamine [Re: Haifisch]
#16224182 - 05/13/12 12:22 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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