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Encephalord
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In need of advice concerning my mycelium
#16204527 - 05/09/12 12:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello all. Ive found a wealth of info on the forums about what im about to ask but I wanted to speak directly to anyone who has advice.
For my first attempt at cultivation I have 12 jars of peanut meal compound which are fully colonized with P. Cubensis (Equador). Ive heard that I can fruit them directly as is but to expect minimal results. Ive also read that my next step is to procure substrate and then add my spawn to it.
Now, seeing that this is my first time, I want to proceed with a generally easy method WITHOUT using brown rice flour/verm because it is not easy to acquire for me. Ive read that rye seed is my best bet and i have a lot of info on preparing the rye but my main question is this:
What exactly do i do with my peanut meal mycelium? Should i mix it into the rye and make cakes? Or do I just toss it all into the bottom of my fruiting chamber that i made and then case it?
I signed up for these forums specifically because Ive noticed that many of you are extremely knowledgeable about this and I imagine that someone can help me to take baby steps in order to get my head wrapped around this. Theres SO much info that im having a hard time grasping what i need to do next.
Any help at all would be GREATLY appreciated. I absolutely will post pics of what I end up doing if anyone is interested in seeing my progress.
Thanks in advance
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Doc_T
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Encephalord]
#16206090 - 05/09/12 06:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What part of the world are you in? Knowing where you are and what you can get will helps us advise you well. There's a lot of options.
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Durban.Poison
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Encephalord]
#16206196 - 05/09/12 06:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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if you are wanting to spawn to bulk, grain is not what you are wanting...you could use coir, manure, straw...among other things...I crumble BRF cakes to Damions50/50 in a monotub...works like a charm...I also fruit cakes in a SGFC, with good results as well
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Durban.Poison]
#16206216 - 05/09/12 06:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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let me clarify...If you are wanting to spawn you peanut meal cake to bulk, then grains is not what your after....if your wanting to take it to the next level, then inoculate grains in jars and spawn to bulk vs cakes
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Durban.Poison]
#16206220 - 05/09/12 06:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Manure/straw seems like a likely winner, but let's see where OP is before we give advice. He says he can't get brown rice or vermiculite, if that's true he might be in a weird place.
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Durban.Poison]
#16206238 - 05/09/12 06:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yup your best bet is to use damion5050's elementary coir tek. There's no need for a pressure cooker if you buy the premade bags from a vendor.
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: GodSpores]
#16206255 - 05/09/12 06:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Completely useless advice right there^^^.
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Encephalord
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Doc_T]
#16209167 - 05/10/12 09:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone for the info. I live in SW Pennsylvania.
These peanut meal jars were marketed as "mycelium jars" from a popular myco supply online store (Not sure if i shouldnt mention the name of it so i wont at this time).
I was originally told that i can inoculate my jars (which i did, mycelial strands growing nicely) and then once theyre fully colonized I can use that as "spawn" and spread it throughout substrate.
Im low on cash and im having a hell of a time finding BRF and verm so I was then told to use rye.
Straw and manure is an option i suppose however the pressure cooker for sterilization is a prob. I know a dude who said he has one and i can borrow it but hes one of those guys who talks out of his ass so im not putting any trust in that. Which makes my original rye plan moot.
I have the fever. I want to see my babies booming so it feels like I want to rush into the simplest method i can find. I know thats not what i should do so Im using restraint.
Its going to take atleast another 2 weeks for those jars to be fully colonized and by then ill have cash again. If the BRF and verm wasnt so hard to find here, thats absolutely what i would do for my first grow.
Thanks again everyone for the replies. Signing up here was a great idea.
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Encephalord]
#16209249 - 05/10/12 10:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You dont need any BRF or Verm, unless you use the verm for casing, because you have spawn already and typically they are used to make cakes/spawn. I suggest you find some aged horse poo, pasturize it, and mix your spawn into it for your bulk sub
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Encephalord]
#16209366 - 05/10/12 10:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Encephalord said: Thanks everyone for the info. I live in SW Pennsylvania.
Oh, when you were talking about peanut meal I figured you were in Southeast Asia or somewhere. Follow standard teks using standard ingredients available everywhere in the United States.
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Encephalord
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Doc_T]
#16211409 - 05/10/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, thank you kindly for the info everyone. I was also just told i can fruit them directly if I case them in something. I might do that with a few jars and then do the rest bulk with manure. I actually haave a huge pile of horse manure in the backyard. Do i absolutely NEED a pressure cooker to sterilize manure?
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Encephalord]
#16211718 - 05/10/12 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Encephalord said: Ok, thank you kindly for the info everyone. I was also just told i can fruit them directly if I case them in something. I might do that with a few jars and then do the rest bulk with manure. I actually haave a huge pile of horse manure in the backyard. Do i absolutely NEED a pressure cooker to sterilize manure?
You pasteurize the HP not sterilize.
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Encephalord
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: thedoc8]
#16213952 - 05/11/12 06:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice,thank you SO much. I really appreciate everyones assistance.
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Encephalord
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Re: In need of advice concerning my mycelium [Re: Encephalord]
#16214163 - 05/11/12 08:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a few cc of spores left in syringe. Im going to experiment with liquid culture. Gonna try maple syrup from my uncles maple grove.
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