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Mycogenesis
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Casing Rebound Time?
#16200435 - 05/08/12 03:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey guys. I just broke up my fully colonised bag of Albino A++ in compost and put it into two of the 11x5 metal pans you get from Wally World, then covered those with tin foil and poked three holes with a needle evenly spaced apart for air exchange. It was a grain to compost spawn using a fully colonised bag of rye berries and then transferred that to a bag of compost.
My question is, how long do I let it sit in the drawer before I uncover it and introduce it to fruiting?
I wasnt planning on adding a casing layer, because I just did my first casing with a B+ BRF cake mixed into a pint of compost, and it only fruited one big uber mushroom that weighed like 30 grams wet. I did EVERYTHING to the T following the 50/50 tek. I used jiffy mix from Wally World as well, and the casing layer was only 1/8" and the myc barely showed through it.
My incubation and FC temps and humidity rations are spot on and I know it for a fact, because i've checked them with not only my EQ but several friends as well.
I scraped off the casing layer from the B+ casing, because I gave it a week and those white patches of myc never fruited. Underneath was a layer of thin yellow shit, so I scraped that off too. Its now recolonising and is PURE WHITE and getting all bumpy.
... So, as a side question *Laughs.* Wth is up with the B+ casing as well? It smells of a super mushroomy smellishness. Not like dirty socks or cheese or anything... Just like fresh pf cakes do...
Some one please help. I've sent multiple messages to AMU to no avail. Asked tons of other members through PM, I just get the same responces.
Something along the lines of "Ugh! NEWB! USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!" But when you search this site... God damn. Please, some one with a little sense, drop me a line.
Going from cakes to casings just seems to be like a huge pain in the ass to me. I get an average of 5-7 dry grams per pf cake, and its never this fucking much of a hassle.
Edited by Mycogenesis (05/08/12 04:25 PM)
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gref
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Mycogenesis said: My question is, how long do I let it sit in the drawer before I uncover it and introduce it to fruiting?
Let it consolidate for 1-3 weeks, the longer the better.
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Mycogenesis said: I scraped off the casing layer from the B+ casing, because I gave it a week and those white patches of myc never fruited. Underneath was a layer of thin yellow shit, so I scraped that off too. Its now recolonising and is PURE WHITE and getting all bumpy.
... So, as a side question *Laughs.* Wth is up with the B+ casing as well? It smells of a super mushroomy smellishness. Not like dirty socks or cheese or anything... Just like fresh pf cakes do...
I've seen shrooms take more than a week to fruit and they fruited great. I think you should have waited longer. On another note, If there was a thin layer of yellowness it must've been metabolites which could have meant bacterial contam. Maybe your casing wasn't clean enough. well anyways, just fruit it as is. Cubensis don't need a casing anyways.
You weren't very clear and concise in your post, but I tried to answer you questions as best I could. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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smitty5606
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Loc: southern states
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I scraped off the casing layer from the B casing, because I gave it a week and those white patches of myc never fruited. Underneath was a layer of thin yellow shit, so I scraped that off too. Its now recolonising and is PURE WHITE and getting all bumpy.
... So, as a side question *Laughs.* Wth is up with the B casing as well? It smells of a super mushroomy smellishness. Not like dirty socks or cheese or anything... Just like fresh pf cakes do...Quote:
Not a good idea to scrap that..the thin layer of yellow Shit is actually a good thing is a sign of you myc. Going into the fruiting cycle also the pure white bumps is kinda like scar tissue for myc. Which won't fruit...Srry for your luck..my advice is have trust in your cultivation abilities and let nature takes it sweet time... I've had pins in two days..but I've also had to wait 2 weeks to start pinning..
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jokefox
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Re: Casing Rebound Time? [Re: gref]
#16201665 - 05/08/12 08:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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gref said:
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Mycogenesis said: My question is, how long do I let it sit in the drawer before I uncover it and introduce it to fruiting?
Let it consolidate for 1-3 weeks, the longer the better.
the only time i get trich is with spawn or bulk sub thats been sitting to long
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Diesel_Dawg
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Re: Casing Rebound Time? [Re: jokefox]
#16203344 - 05/09/12 03:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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To be brutally honest, I think your methods are somewhat questionable, and you need to take a step back and regroup. You're taking bits and pieces of info and trying to piece together a grow. Don't get me wrong, I never followed a tek to the letter, I started doing things my way on day one. The difference is, I researched and studied for months before I even posted on this forum. I also fucked up a lot.. But I learned from my mistakes.
The fact that you can get grain spawn colonized is great, and says a lot. That's the hardest part as far as I'm concerned. It also means you can easily modify your technique and methods a little and get great results.
Here are my suggestions, not necessarily in any kind of order: Forget about casing your colonized substrate, that's just an extra step that isn't necessary, especially at this point where you're having problems pulling off a successful grow. Ditch the compost, its much better in your vegetable garden. Go spend a couple dollars on a sterilite container or whatever you can find that's close to that. Take said tub/bin and make yourself a monotub using a successful design like Ohmatic's or Monster Mitch's. Buy yourself some coir bricks and a bag of vermiculite, the verm isn't completely necessary, I've done several tubs without it, but it helps. Follow the bucket tek for your coir or coir-verm preparation. Once you're ready to spawn to the tub, use the layering technique, and make sure to end it with a layer of coir on top with absolutely no grain exposed.
I know I seem critical, and may even seem to be a bit of a dick. But I honestly just want to help. Don't feel bad, everyone was a beginner at some point and made countless mistakes before they had success , I know I did. You're on the right track, you just need proper guidance. I'm surprised people here haven't tried harder to help steer you in the right direction. But honestly, just knowing people in general, its not really a big surprise...
That being said, I am more than happy to help, feel free to PM me with your questions and concerns and I will do my best to help you out.
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