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    #16199886 - 05/08/12 01:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So I know that I'm doing DOC'S WBS method to a T and it work's good.. But I have issues with the seed in the jars sticking together and i will shake and shake and shake but it dose not break apart... How do i get it to break apart????


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16199891 - 05/08/12 01:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

is it already colonized?
bang it off a phone book or bike tire


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16199901 - 05/08/12 01:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Jars are probably too full. Or contaminated. Or both.
Pics would help. ^^^or a phone book.


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Doc_T]
    #16199911 - 05/08/12 01:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Jars are probably too full. Or contaminated. Or both.
Pics would help. ^^^or a phone book.




i actual had a coast rican jar i spawned today no matter what i did it wouldnt break up
it had dime sized rhizomorphic myc all over the jar
i had to use a fork and pretty much grind against the jar


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16199922 - 05/08/12 01:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's frequently a sign of bacterial contamination.
Or the jars are just too full. Healthy grains jars will break up into nice free flowing grains.
WBS is a little stiffer than rye, but it will still break up easily.


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Doc_T]
    #16199927 - 05/08/12 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

naw i did not even do my injections yet this is right out of the P.C maybe i will try and hit it with a book.. No pics sry... This happend another time a while back i just said fuck it and did my injections and it all colonized besides the middle so i just took the colonized seed out and i got stuff out of it just not what i wanted maybe the jars are to full as well... Maybe i will do a little less than half


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16199939 - 05/08/12 01:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I like two level cups of cooked grain in a quart jar.
If they won't break up coming out of the PC, that's a problem.
Properly prepared grain will easily fall apart into separate grains fresh out of the PC.


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16199947 - 05/08/12 01:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Check the moisture content of the grain before loading the jars could just be too wet.

gypsum may help as well...:shrug:


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16199949 - 05/08/12 01:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Use more gypsum in your soak & don't rinse after the soak or Boil.
If you rinse after your soak/boil, you'll rinse off all your gypsum on the grains.
Therefore, you get clumpy grains.

Just bang the jars against your hand after PCing to redistribute the moisture & "declumpify" (yea I made that up) the grains.


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Doc_T]
    #16199960 - 05/08/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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That's frequently a sign of bacterial contamination.
Or the jars are just too full. Healthy grains jars will break up into nice free flowing grains.
WBS is a little stiffer than rye, but it will still break up easily.




it smelt nice and mushie
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Re: seed in jars [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #16199969 - 05/08/12 01:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i rince after the soak after the boil and one time befor the soak.. I'm going to try and use less seed and hope it works... It could be the grain is not properly prepared but like i said i do the TEK to a T.. it might just be to much seed I'm going to put in less this time.. How much water do i fill in the jar, make it even with the seed??


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16199975 - 05/08/12 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah when my other jars did that they still had a nice smell and all, I got some nice babies out of it


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16199982 - 05/08/12 02:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah when my other jars did that they still had a nice smell and all, I got some nice babies out of it




i wish i had a picture of mine
it was real sweet looking
but i have another one that looks like it but its not done colonizing yet
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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16199998 - 05/08/12 02:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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How much water do i fill in the jar, make it even with the seed??




What?
No, no water in the jar. You rinse the shit outta your grains, then while they're in the colander
Fill your soak pot w/ water + 1 Tablespoon of gypsum per 4 cups of grains.
Stir that all up, dump in your grains, stir that up & let sit & soak for 12-24 hours.
Bring to a boil in your soak water until al dente.
Dump in your colander & toss until the exterior of the grains are dry.


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Re: seed in jars [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #16200044 - 05/08/12 02:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i meant for the p.c part


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16200073 - 05/08/12 02:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As much as it takes to run your PC for 90-120 minutes.
There's no definite answer to that, as each PC is different.
I use around 5 cups of water for my AA930 for a grain run.
My sterilizer (AA25X) only uses 2 cups of water.


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Re: seed in jars [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #16200098 - 05/08/12 02:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah i got the same make you do... I like that TEK a lot man thank's!! so you don't put any water inside your jars tho huh? I'm going to use the tek you sent me bro thank's for the info bro :grin:


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16200111 - 05/08/12 02:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nope, no water in the jars.

I fill up the bottom of the PC till it comes just up just below the trivets at the bottom.
You can fit 14 quart jars in an AA930, btw.


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Re: seed in jars [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #16200123 - 05/08/12 02:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

oooo wow man i was useing way to much water sweet you got me in a good mood now lol I will be working this weekend to get it done thank's so much :thumbup:


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Re: seed in jars [Re: Jdiz]
    #16200140 - 05/08/12 02:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yup, you can run your PC at 14 PSI, too.
That way the toggle weight doesn't go off & you don't use nearly as much water.


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