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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: BobbySkidz]
    #16189573 - 05/06/12 09:02 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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May I ask what strain this was?





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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: bootsyyy]
    #16189637 - 05/06/12 09:25 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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first off i would say you should remove the vendors name
no need to get them in trouble for you illegal actions

second off they are a very good vendor how many people on this site trust
myself as on of them, i would not use anyone else

and third off dont just start bashing a vendor when more then likely its something you did
there are many variables in this process and if one of them is off it could mess up your whole grow




Im not bashing this vendor at all, they have great customer service, but latley a few of us have had the EXACT same problem with not getting any growth.




yes there are a lot of people that have this problem with all vendors
each syringe has millions of spores and for none of them to germinate is a little hard to believe
and i dont see any vendor doing anything that would hurt the integrity of a syringe
usually is the people growing it doing something wrong

and a 1/2in whole is pretty big man
i only use a 1/4in


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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16189679 - 05/06/12 09:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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bootsyyy said:
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Dazed Belief said:
first off i would say you should remove the vendors name
no need to get them in trouble for you illegal actions

second off they are a very good vendor how many people on this site trust
myself as on of them, i would not use anyone else

and third off dont just start bashing a vendor when more then likely its something you did
there are many variables in this process and if one of them is off it could mess up your whole grow




Im not bashing this vendor at all, they have great customer service, but latley a few of us have had the EXACT same problem with not getting any growth.




yes there are a lot of people that have this problem with all vendors
each syringe has millions of spores and for none of them to germinate is a little hard to believe
and i dont see any vendor doing anything that would hurt the integrity of a syringe
usually is the people growing it doing something wrong

and a 1/2in whole is pretty big man
i only use a 1/4in




Thanks for the info, I have to disagree a little though, ive spoken to a few people this week that recently got spores from the same place i just got mine from.

ive done Popcorn this way and BRF multiple times with no problems. The thing that  stuck out to me is a member got a few different strains from the same place and only one of the strains colonized, all the others had no growth at all. That leads me to believe that this is a freak incident with this vendor.

read this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16171889

Edited by bootsyyy (05/06/12 09:40 AM)

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: bootsyyy]
    #16189715 - 05/06/12 09:47 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

if you saying last week
then yea you might actually be right
there was that shit storm in the use that snowed real but and temps in some places got below zero
if being shipped with temp being that low they would be a chance of the syringes turned to shit
probably to cold for them


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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: bootsyyy]
    #16189719 - 05/06/12 09:48 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yep, so ill post with the new stuff and see how it goes

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: bootsyyy]
    #16189737 - 05/06/12 09:53 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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i have 2 holes, one very small one to inoculate and a 1/2" hole for FAE, i followed the "RYE BITCHES RYE" tek to a T.

that is a trick of the light, but i do now have a small amount of growth.




Two holes? I don't know the Tek, but I'm surprised it suggested a 1/2" hole for "FAE":eek: as that is likely the problem. Your grain is drying out.
One 1/4" hole, covered with micro-pore tape after inoculation, would suffice.


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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: bootsyyy]
    #16189761 - 05/06/12 09:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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yep, so ill post with the new stuff and see how it goes




ok good shit man
i want trying to be a dick man
hope eveything works out for ya


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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: bootsyyy]
    #16189942 - 05/06/12 11:00 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Im confused now, 3 of my jars are now showing a VERY VERY TINY amount of growth, Im not sure if these spores were just weak or what.




Well, you did use a MS syringe. Rollin dice, you know.

Earlier in the thread I said I'd report back about my grain jars. They've got mycelium in em, I'm certain of it.


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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: deucedbi9]
    #16189994 - 05/06/12 11:18 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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bootsyyy said:
i have 2 holes, one very small one to inoculate and a 1/2" hole for FAE, i followed the "RYE BITCHES RYE" tek to a T.

that is a trick of the light, but i do now have a small amount of growth.




Two holes? I don't know the Tek, but I'm surprised it suggested a 1/2" hole for "FAE":eek: as that is likely the problem. Your grain is drying out.
One 1/4" hole, covered with micro-pore tape after inoculation, would suffice.




i followed the "RYE BITCHES RYE" tek, check out the picture of the lid in this thread, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4576865/fpart/1/vc/1

they seem to work fine for him

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: bootsyyy]
    #16190437 - 05/06/12 01:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

maybe its just light, but i think your grain looks really dry

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: joyless]
    #16190830 - 05/06/12 03:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I somehow screwd up the moisture content of my rye jars and I had the inject some cc's of boiled (then cooled) water into them. They colonized well after that.


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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: Waldfried]
    #16190863 - 05/06/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Since this thread seems to be getting replies and my thread doesn't, can I hijack to ask - are mine too dry then?



I thought that might be the case but then I read a post by RR saying (in essence) "They're almost never too dry, the moisture is in the grains, it's better to be too dry than too wet" so I abandoned my plans to inject some sterilised water...

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: GoldenArrow]
    #16190939 - 05/06/12 04:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Since this thread seems to be getting replies and my thread doesn't, can I hijack to ask - are mine too dry then?



I thought that might be the case but then I read a post by RR saying (in essence) "They're almost never too dry, the moisture is in the grains, it's better to be too dry than too wet" so I abandoned my plans to inject some sterilised water...




yea ur jars look good
and after a 24 hour soak its pretty hard to dry ur grains out to much
not sure about rye though but i would think it the same as everything else


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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16190997 - 05/06/12 04:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'll keep waiting then! Oh, I also put a pinch of gypsum in there so they might look drier than they normally would.

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: GoldenArrow]
    #16197020 - 05/07/12 09:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Good to see your getting some growth. Rye is much harder to achieve germination on than brf cakes. I bet if you took that same syringe and put it on Agar/LC or a cake you would have growth.

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #16214786 - 05/11/12 11:57 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

If anyone is keeping score, I've got growth now too! A tiny dot....possibly a record, 4 weeks after inoculation? Highly doubtful it's mycellium, but you never know! Now to see if my sclerotia jar will ever start...

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: GoldenArrow]
    #16215029 - 05/11/12 12:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It probably is mycelium, best of luck!

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #16215056 - 05/11/12 01:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

my jars started colonizing, the spores were just weak i guess, cause i got some more from the same vendor, and they started growing after 3 days.

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #16215057 - 05/11/12 01:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

While the grains do look a tad dry, there still lots of moisture in those kernels, should be enough for the mycelium to grow. Sometimes spores can be slow to germinate and what does germinate might be some slow growing strains, especially if they are old, which you never know they could be.

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Re: No Growth RYE - PICS [Re: tubervegan]
    #16215063 - 05/11/12 01:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yea, it was kinda weird because I posted this thread and found out that alot of other people had problems lately with the same vendor, and it took 2 weeks for them to start, but now they are going fine. Ill post some pics of the grow soon.

The vendor was nice enough to send me new spores and like i said they started growth in 4 days.

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