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high fan winds
    #16166916 - 05/01/12 05:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok I recently have been having low FAE so I hooked up a fan my RH is fine but can wind speed affect me... like it looks like a hurricane is going off in my tub

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Re: high fan winds [Re: smitty5606]
    #16166927 - 05/01/12 05:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Umm...  What?

What's your setup? 

I wouldn't want a fan blowing directly onto my tub due to the risk of drying out whatever substrate you're using (PF cakes, bulk, ect..).  If you're using a shotgun FC or something similar, I'd recommend fanning more often..  At least 2-3 times a day if you need to.

You're going to have to post more information if you want help.

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Re: high fan winds [Re: Project]
    #16166988 - 05/01/12 05:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm using a ultrasonic hum. With a fan on the inside with two small port holes on each side of the tub to pull fresh air...like my humidity level is running at about 97%...its just circulating at high rate

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Re: high fan winds [Re: smitty5606]
    #16167071 - 05/01/12 05:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would think that as long as your substrate wasn't drying out then it would be okay.  I guess you're increasing risk of contamination somewhat, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'd contaminate or anything.

I don't know really, wait for someone else to help out..

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Re: high fan winds [Re: Project]
    #16167259 - 05/01/12 06:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've got the holes covered with filter patches but thanx for the help the humidity inside my chamber ( fan on the inside fan motor on the outside)
my set up 
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Re: high fan winds [Re: smitty5606]
    #16167356 - 05/01/12 06:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: high fan winds [Re: smitty5606]
    #16167667 - 05/01/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It appears you think humidity is king, which it isn't.  If your substrate doesn't get a chance to dry out between misting sessions, performance will be poor.

Fresh air is the most important factor because it causes evaporation from the substrate, a major pinning trigger.  Your humidifier is defeating that pinning mechanism.

You should never have condensation on the sides of a mushroom growing chamber.
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Re: high fan winds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #16167750 - 05/01/12 08:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

First time the prophecy has posted on my posts hell yea ...what's the best way to achive  the perfect ratio between humidity and FAE.....tell me if this will work? I'm going to drill holes In my tub until condensation on the side of tub is Barly gone

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Re: high fan winds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #16167755 - 05/01/12 08:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This a little off topic RR but what would your schedule be for misting and fanning if you had access all day  to pf brf 1/2 pint cakes in a built to spec sgfc ? So they could "dry out " between misting..

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Re: high fan winds [Re: smitty5606]
    #16167765 - 05/01/12 08:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Also with a set up like that I would assume there's also condensation on ur Mushies, which will cause you more problems yet


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Re: high fan winds [Re: werDehT]
    #16169719 - 05/02/12 05:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

im gonna point out your whole placement
i see you got some small ones aroung the bottom
and what looks like tyvek covered wholes in the middle?
but you have none up top
i would add some wholes closer to the top


i would also think that your fan might defeating the whole purpose of having the wholes in the chamber
blowing the air around would not let the air settle and just keep the same air circulating
the heavier co2 goes to the bottom and goes out while bringing fresh air in the top wholes


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Re: high fan winds [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16169844 - 05/02/12 06:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea I got holes at the top you just can't see them In the pic..but wouldn't the fan pull air from the holes

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Re: high fan winds [Re: smitty5606]
    #16169866 - 05/02/12 07:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i believe you said you had the fan on the inside
which would just blow everything around
there wouldnt be any suction to move the air in and out
just a little basic physics

for it to blow air in or out it would have to actually be on the wall with its on whole
which could cause a number a problems

in my book its best just not to use a fan
if you want to improve fae make your whole bigger or add more
getting everything right takes a little tinkering


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Re: high fan winds [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16170351 - 05/02/12 10:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hell yea ill roll with that...my girl bitches to much about it catching the house of fire neways...I've had success that way with just the holes just thought I might make it better..like I can get 5 grams a cake without the fan so I was thinking of ways to make it better but ill go back to my old ways..but thanx for helping me

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Re: high fan winds [Re: SimpleFarmer]
    #16175514 - 05/03/12 06:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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This a little off topic RR but what would your schedule be for misting and fanning if you had access all day  to pf brf 1/2 pint cakes in a built to spec sgfc ? So they could "dry out " between misting..




Fanning isn't necessary in a properly built shotgun terrarium, but most people use the lid to fan after misting as an added way to ensure a full exchange of air.

You mist as needed.  My schedule is irrelevant, since I live in a high elevation mountain climate with very low humidity.
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Re: high fan winds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #16175515 - 05/03/12 06:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok.... Thank you

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Re: high fan winds [Re: SimpleFarmer]
    #16175675 - 05/03/12 07:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i would also think that your fan might defeating the whole purpose of having the wholes in the chamber
blowing the air around would not let the air settle and just keep the same air circulating
the heavier co2 goes to the bottom and goes out while bringing fresh air in the top wholes




CO2 does not "settle" out of air no more than ethanol floats to the top of a beer over the more dense water. It a homogeneous mix. If this where true, then anyone sleeping in a low spot on a still night would be in grave danger.


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Re: high fan winds [Re: TheBot0nist]
    #16195672 - 05/07/12 04:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry for the double post, but I have a quick question. I know having a fan pointing at the FC is not good as it may cause excessive evaporation, but after misting, could a fan be used in short bursts as opposed to manually fanning with the lid? The only draw backs I can think of is possible dust and contaminates from the fan blades blowing in.


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