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Mr. Wilson
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hey yall what can i do with THIS
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-------yeah im lookin for some ego strokin--give it to me-yeah baby give it to me----unfotunately i have not any success colonizing grain---but i really was just playin around---this time its for real---i already got the PF down--but ive seen yalls tubs--so now i stand before you--make me a boomer growin king!!!--lol
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16187490 - 05/05/12 07:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dunno about you, but I'd make a hybrid MSG tub.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Doc_T]
#16187513 - 05/05/12 07:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just got all the supplies to make my first tub yesterday and the day before. So I am in the same boat as you Wilson. I have studied for a couple months waiting for the day, I would be prepared to do one. Now it's all about choices, bulk substrate choices that is.
I have plenty of pony poo at my disposal but think I am just going to use coir, gypsum, lime, and coffee grounds. Maybe just coir.
I will be using Doc T's WBS tek for prepping my jars, for that btw way Doc.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Doc_T]
#16187518 - 05/05/12 07:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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what up BIIGG DOOGG--hey if ya got a minute--git this ol boy right--mind you i aint one of these youngins that are so common on here--i know how to take SAGE advice--your time will NOT be wasted i assure you--me be 32 years old
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson] 1
#16187524 - 05/05/12 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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make a quilt, feed some birds and fill these jars with pennies... report back to me when you've completed all three tasks.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: The Influence]
#16187528 - 05/05/12 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Influence said: I just got all the supplies to make my first tub yesterday and the day before. So I am in the same boat as you Wilson. I have studied for a couple months waiting for the day, I would be prepared to do one. Now it's all about choices, bulk substrate choices that is.
I have plenty of pony poo at my disposal but think I am just going to use coir, gypsum, lime, and coffee grounds. Maybe just coir.
I will be using Doc T's WBS tek for prepping my jars, for that btw way Doc.
yo man got you-THE docT and me--lets put on a pot and get this thang started
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16187535 - 05/05/12 07:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let's do it! Here is Doc's Wild Bird Seed Tek which I will be going with.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: The Influence]
#16187561 - 05/05/12 07:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Influence said: I will be using Doc T's WBS tek for prepping my jars, for that btw way Doc.
You talking about Doc34's tek? My advice: read carefully
Further advice: prep your WBS about like RR does rye in his videos. Scoop out the flotaers with your hand, toss in the yard for birds. Soak 4-6 hours, simmer until done al dente. Strain in a wire mesh strainer, not a plastic colander.
Also, tyvek is teh suck as a filter. Use polyfil. Tyvek makes a great envelope though, use it for mailing things.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: The Influence]
#16187576 - 05/05/12 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yo man this has the potential to be a MONUMENTAL grow log thread--ive got another hour before i can start-i have a large PC heavy duty reynolds and a syringe of burma a print of GT of which i was planning to use for the tub but i may use the burma instead i have syringes though?? sooo--BTW how old are you??----hey DOC T where did u go??---whats more interesting than teaching a couple noobs how to fly---lets git it on---doc t nevermind there you are---BTW WHO is that girl in your avatar--she keeps changing-i know you know her--man see is GORGEOUS--got dem doe eyes--man ima tellin ya
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson] 2
#16187580 - 05/05/12 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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whats more interesting than teaching a couple noobs
Watching them learn to search, read, and learn on their own.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Doc_T]
#16187607 - 05/05/12 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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whats more interesting than teaching a couple noobs
Watching them learn to search, read, and learn on their own.
lol
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Doc_T]
#16187615 - 05/05/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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whats more interesting than teaching a couple noobs
Watching them learn to search, read, and learn on their own.
OKAY last tek said to get water boiling-set to the side pour in WBS--let sit for an hour-rake off floaters-then rinse the HELL out of it--then get all the water you can out of it-like 1 drop comin out the bottom--fill jars 2/3--PC--cool then innocc--yeah that was the one that didnt work for me
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16187639 - 05/05/12 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I leave the floaters, because removing the floaters is so mainstream.
I drain, but do not dry.
Adding the grain to boiling water and letting it cool works well. I do not boil after the soak.
Santorum makes a good addition to any grain jar.
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I think you get a smoother result without floaters. Steam dry in a strainer, don't try to dry the grains off.
Either way, me and Admiral Awesome agree that Doc34's tek isn't the way to go.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Doc_T]
#16187721 - 05/05/12 08:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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now you see this shit--so much confliction--i just got back from reading that damn tek--im not mad but damn yall
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16187786 - 05/05/12 08:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: now you see this shit--so much confliction--i just got back from reading that damn tek--im not mad but damn yall
You're annoyed at others because you don't know what you're doing and can't tell the difference between an outdated TEK and people that are giving you advice in real time?
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Doc_T]
#16187797 - 05/05/12 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: I think you get a smoother result without floaters. Steam dry in a strainer, don't try to dry the grains off.
Either way, me and Admiral Awesome agree that Doc34's tek isn't the way to go.
It is just less work for me. I still get good results. It is pretty hard to fuck up "soaking seeds".
You just do not want the kernels to burst or slit too much = stick = hard to shake/mix.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: aqh]
#16187802 - 05/05/12 08:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^^ And that's why I don't hold anybody's hand. Ask a question, maybe I'll answer. Ask for hand holding, you get what you get.
Prep your grains like RR does in his videos. Or don't. Your choice.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Doc_T]
#16187875 - 05/05/12 09:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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things always change --people find better ways to do things--thats why im here asking ???'s---i did do the search and proceeded on the tek--tek said to just soak seed in semi boiling water for an hour---then fill and PC--that did not work--i know now that it takes longer to germ dem endos
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16187886 - 05/05/12 09:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You do not need to worry about endos with a PC.
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The Influence said: I will be using Doc T's WBS tek for prepping my jars, for that btw way Doc.
You talking about Doc34's tek? My advice: read carefully
Further advice: prep your WBS about like RR does rye in his videos. Scoop out the flotaers with your hand, toss in the yard for birds. Soak 4-6 hours, simmer until done al dente. Strain in a wire mesh strainer, not a plastic colander.
Also, tyvek is teh suck as a filter. Use polyfil. Tyvek makes a great envelope though, use it for mailing things.
My mistake, I didn't see the Doc34 signature at the bottom of the post. Figured there was only one Doc and that was you.
Thanks for letting me know that tek is not good, I will do it like RR does.
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sorry dont mean any insult but everything i read says that is false
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16187899 - 05/05/12 09:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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where is false info at!?!?
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ROGERRABBIT: P cubensis will grow on stuffed animals, bibles, quarter pounds of weed, bras, etc.
In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16187909 - 05/05/12 09:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: sorry dont mean any insult but everything i read says that is false
Do what you want. If you want to worry about endo, then do so.
I do not even think about them with a PC.
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how many quarts for the 66 qt should i do--give me the noob ratio
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16188088 - 05/05/12 10:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would do all the quarts that I have/ or can fit into a PC.
But probably 4 would be enough.
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ive got alot of qt jars and 20lb bag of pennington classic WBS--my tub is 24"x17" i can fit 6 qts in my PC--i looked at the calculator-- again conflicting shit
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16188112 - 05/05/12 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ROGERRABBIT: P cubensis will grow on stuffed animals, bibles, quarter pounds of weed, bras, etc.
In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16188116 - 05/05/12 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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make as much as you want. It is not an exact science. I use all of my jars, and then just make more tubs, or wait for one tub to finish and then start another.
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c4c i get the "forbidden message"---fuck it i think 10 qts will do it--is that enough--if its too much i got an outdoor patch-lol--that enough?? 1cc per jar will that work
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16188144 - 05/05/12 10:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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omg!! if i cant get that fucker workin ima die without it!!
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In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: cubes4cancer]
#16188168 - 05/05/12 10:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yo man fixin to start pourin 10 qts enough with 1cc per???----i got this peeve bout wastin shit--and birds dont eat that millet bullshit--i feed em the good shit
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16188176 - 05/05/12 10:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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10 is enough. Make as much as you want.
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From my reading 1-2 cc is good
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: The Influence]
#16188288 - 05/05/12 11:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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what up man--are we gettin influenced or what--by influenced i mean--schooled--what you been up to this last little bit?? well i got 2o lbs of pennington WBS soaking---if it makes more than 1o jars im breakin out the GT print
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hey AA and c4c--yall do know no good deed goes unrewarded? well at least in my book--i really appreciate yall--
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16188327 - 05/05/12 11:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: what up man--are we gettin influenced or what--by influenced i mean--schooled
I think I am pretty schooled man, I have been preparing for this for months. Did the same before I started with cakes. Still got a little figuring to do, but thats mainly what I will spawn to exactly.
Actually got my PC going with some LCs for some edible LC syringes I just won, and will PC my WBS jars in the morning.
I think I am just going to wait to mess with the pony poo, till I get this down pat and spawn to coir, coffee grounds, and gypsum. On a side note I paid good money for my bird seed and the only additive I see is gypsum so I won't have to add any there.
What are your plans?
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: The Influence]
#16188353 - 05/05/12 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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im gonna let this seed soak overnight maybe -steam it tommorrow-then to the PC---what did you get out of reading all that info---steaming-boiling before PC necessary--read RR's take on it and he said it was uneccessary--what is your take??----and another thing to fellow noob--how does it feel to read all that stuff and get a headache just to come back out of and start asking round bout it and be told that its wrong--i did my research too man
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: The Influence]
#16188378 - 05/05/12 11:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok i PMed the creator of the calculator and now awaiting a response. that sounds weird but i did it.
@ The Influence: if your thinking theres much gypsum left after your soak and simmer your mistaken,add some to it still.
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ROGERRABBIT: P cubensis will grow on stuffed animals, bibles, quarter pounds of weed, bras, etc.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: cubes4cancer]
#16188435 - 05/05/12 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i got em soaking -the whole 2olb bag minus the floaters yeah i took the little back bastards out they just cause trouble-lol-so you do cook em a little after the soak do you??
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: Mr. Wilson]
#16188487 - 05/05/12 11:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah the main reason you boil is to get the seed hot enough to basically steam dry,also to get the moisture/texture of the wbs just right.i like a lil bursted grains but too many could cause trouble.
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In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: cubes4cancer]
#16188510 - 05/05/12 11:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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cubes4cancer said: ok i PMed the creator of the calculator and now awaiting a response. that sounds weird but i did it.
@ The Influence: if your thinking theres much gypsum left after your soak and simmer your mistaken,add some to it still.
Gypsum isn't really necessary for seeds. And if the seeds are not rinsed too much, there should be enough calcium left.
Also, it doesn't matter to me if the seeds are still wet, after they drip for a few minutes.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: cubes4cancer]
#16188517 - 05/05/12 11:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mr. Wilson said: im gonna let this seed soak overnight maybe -steam it tommorrow-then to the PC---what did you get out of reading all that info---steaming-boiling before PC necessary--read RR's take on it and he said it was uneccessary--what is your take??----and another thing to fellow noob--how does it feel to read all that stuff and get a headache just to come back out of and start asking round bout it and be told that its wrong--i did my research too man
I think Colonel Sanders says it best "there is more than one way to skin a cat", but in all seriousness I just look through detailed grow logs and look at the successful ones and compile that information in my notes. I do get most of my notes from RR, the man has been doing this for a long time and runs a mushroom farm, so if he says it's unecessary I would take his word for it. And I wasn't saying that you haven't done your research, I see no problem in asking different peoples take on it. For every person that gives a vauge answer with a "use the search function" punchline there are usually a couple more willing to share their methods in detail.
Thats what I am going to do; rinse the WBS till the water runs clear, let it soak for about 12 hours, boil for 10 minutes or so, then let sit in the strainer for awhile to steam dry a bit then load up my jars and PC.
Oh I don't know if you got any coir but if you are a looking I found 3 bricks at petco for $10 last night. Same brand was $15 on amazon plus $8.75 for s&h. Was going to order it too, till I was eating out and seen that petco and thought they might have some.
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cubes4cancer said: ok i PMed the creator of the calculator and now awaiting a response. that sounds weird but i did it.
@ The Influence: if your thinking theres much gypsum left after your soak and simmer your mistaken,add some to it still.
Good call man, can't believe I didn't think of that +5
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Admiral Ackbar said: Gypsum isn't really necessary for seeds. And if the seeds are not rinsed too much, there should be enough calcium left.
Also, it doesn't matter to me if the seeds are still wet, after they drip for a few minutes.
there might be some left,but i rinse too much i guess,so i always add some.
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In other words,it's hard to fuck up a cube grow.
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Re: hey yall what can i do with THIS [Re: The Influence]
#16188556 - 05/06/12 12:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah i guess you gotta look at from their side--they've been here a long time and that babysitting proly gets old after a while-lol-live and learn i guess---yeah will be using coir but theres not a petco close to me--there is a worthy petshop though with a substantial reptile section---to c4c and AA i found trancendinglifes monotub tek and he uses the exact same tub i got--believe ill be fine on that end---appreciate you all-cant say it enuff ill be here tommorrow-you know i will-holler back-BTW dem cakes r gittin fuzzy-wont be long-may throw a pic up tommorrow-peace yall-im outy
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