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First time - a couple questions
    #16183807 - 05/04/12 10:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I watched the pf tek videos and are using that as a baseline to get started.

A couple questions in some variations I was wondering if it would effect it.

1.) Will using water resistant duck tape to cover the holes in the lid while steaming matter? I know it said you should use "professional grade masking tape" as it allowed air flow, but does this really matter?

2.) Can I use a lighter to sterilize my syringe needle, or should I stick to an alcohol flame?

3.) Does setting the container (I will use a large tub with holes in it) really need to be elevated, or can I set it on the floor? If not, how high should it be.

4.) Does drilling holes in the bottom cause the perlite to fall out when moving it around?

5.) Will they create a bad odor?

6.) How spaced out should the cakes be, and is there a limit to how many you should put in a container based on its size, or as many as you can squeeze in?

THANKS! I appreciate any tips and feedback!

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Re: First time - a couple questions [Re: nestleplife]
    #16184111 - 05/04/12 11:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1) Duct tape is good.

2) Yes you can use a lighter, but I find it hard to be thorough with it. An alcohol burner would be great. However, I've been using my gas stove to sterilize my needles for years and it works very well.

3) All of your jars, tubs, or FCs should be at least 1 foot above the ground. Because a large majority of contaminants are in the first foot.

4) The size of the holes is supposed to be 1/4 inch, in my experience a little bit of perlite falls out but not too much. Just handle the tub gently.

5) No, they will produce a mushroomy smell but it's nothing overwhelming at all; it actually smells delicious! They can smell terrible but that's only when their infected, which means they need to be thrown out anyways. So to put it simply: no bad odors.

6) The cakes can be put pretty close together, give them like 2-3 inches of space is my guesstimate. This is a trivial matter don't get caught up in it. Also, you can stack the cakes on top of each other, most of the fruits come out from the sides anyways.

Let me know if you have anymore questions.

:goodluck:

Edited by gref (05/05/12 11:51 AM)

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Re: First time - a couple questions [Re: gref]
    #16184191 - 05/04/12 11:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Cool! Didn't know I could stack them! Do you think 1 syringe could do 24 jars? How many grams (dried) come off a cake? My strain is B+, but also have some PF Classic. Is PF Classic any good?

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Re: First time - a couple questions [Re: nestleplife]
    #16186517 - 05/05/12 03:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There's 10 cc/ml (1 cc= 1ml) in a syringe, the videos instruct you to inject 1cc per jar which is 1/4 cc per hole. So with one syringe you could do 10 jars.

When you get to more advanced techniques like liquid culture(LC), you can use one syringe to do thousands of jars. However, I recommend you just follow the instructions from the videos for now.

When I grew 10 cakes I got about an ounce and a half dry, so that's about 4 grams per cakes. The amount can vary highly though.

Both of those strains are good, here is an excellent read about strains you should check out.

Edited by gref (05/05/12 03:19 PM)

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Re: First time - a couple questions [Re: gref]
    #16186570 - 05/05/12 03:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ive never used duct tape but i would guess it would stop gas excange. ge is important because mycilium is alive and breaths. yes a lighter works an achohal lamp is just easyer dont have to relight. i dont use a shotty and pearlite, my terrarium is my desighn and it works well for me atleast. oder will be presant it will varry infected cakes smell like rank hippy feet. heathy ones smell like mushrooms. pearlite can have oder if it has bacteria growing in it. b pos will do the job pf clasics better not as manny duds. 1 syringe max 10 jars, learn lc teks to incress what can  be done with such small amounts. and always print atleast 2 caps no less


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im not r kelly i do not create evidence, and my experments are purely theoretical i refuse to post pics of any grows so ethier take my words at face value or simply choose to think what you already do. please note its my experiance that i dont think like others so please be patiant when i have to explain something it may make no sense to you but it does to me

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Re: First time - a couple questions [Re: otaku on shrooms]
    #16186785 - 05/05/12 04:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

otaku on shrooms said:
ive never used duct tape but i would guess it would stop gas excange.





I take it that English is not your first language. Anyways, he said use the duct tape while steaming. The cakes don't need GE during sterilization.

@nestle
Take off the tape for colonization, the dry verm layer will protect the cakes from contamination.

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Re: First time - a couple questions [Re: gref]
    #16188521 - 05/05/12 11:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for all the information and tips. Any more is also appreciated

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