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why does THC stick to butane?
    #16183305 - 05/04/12 08:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

if you know the answer, post it here.

I like to know why and how things work, and tonight BHO got my interest.
I could/might blindfoldly follow a tek, but lately a lot of my fun reside in understanding why we do what 'we' do.

*P.S. please keep your answer(if you got any) noob friendly :radman:

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16183322 - 05/04/12 08:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It's soluble in butane. It's like dissolving sugar in water. Butane dissolves the good stuff and when it evaporates it leaves the good stuff. Like rock candy in the sugar example.

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #16183359 - 05/04/12 08:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Rail_Gun said:
It's soluble in butane. It's like dissolving sugar in water. Butane dissolves the good stuff and when it evaporates it leaves the good stuff. Like rock candy in the sugar example.

:cookiemonster:




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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: infinitesidedcube]
    #16183370 - 05/04/12 08:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

then what feature does butane and fat(cannabutter) share that makes THC soluble in both?????

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16183383 - 05/04/12 08:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Both are non polar. non polar likes non polar so the THC will dissolve into any substance that is non polar.


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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: cacharstar]
    #16183431 - 05/04/12 08:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you guys are awesome, thanks.

**search what non polar means

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16183472 - 05/04/12 08:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Polarity has to do with partial charges on a molecule due to the strength of electronegativety between the elements in the molecule. Hope that helps.

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #16183500 - 05/04/12 09:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Rail_Gun said:
It's soluble in butane. It's like dissolving sugar in water. Butane dissolves the good stuff and when it evaporates it leaves the good stuff. Like rock candy in the sugar example.

:cookiemonster:




yes is butane a polar or non polar solvent? I forget, it's strange though they say thc dissolves in water just as well, I guess it dissolves in a number of solvents. But I've always thought butane made hash is better then bubble, although they are pretty close. That is just my opinion most people think the opposite, truthfully hash you just lose a lot of product and get a lot of thc in the little bit of product that you have. Any hash not made with regs leaves, and made carefully very well filtered if not re purified a few times comes out very well.

Bubble hash definitely doesn't suck. can't say which type of hash is the best, they all pretty much knock me out and clog up my pipe, except hash made with alcohol and regs leaves. And I never beefed against alcohol having 7% water and not being anhydrous. It's just not practical to use crap to make good hash, and small amounts of it either. Hash is a rich man's drug :thumbup:


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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: cacharstar]
    #16183516 - 05/04/12 09:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

oh indeed, only non polar. Wonder then what the babble about ice bag created water hash making bubble hash is. water is polar I believe.


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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: imachavel]
    #16183521 - 05/04/12 09:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Butane is non polar. Water is polar. THC does not mix well in water.  That's why during a cwe the THC crystallizes and sinks to the bottom.  Butane extractions should be ran thru a charcoal filter to improve clarity.


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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: imachavel]
    #16183635 - 05/04/12 09:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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imachavel said:
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Rail_Gun said:
It's soluble in butane. It's like dissolving sugar in water. Butane dissolves the good stuff and when it evaporates it leaves the good stuff. Like rock candy in the sugar example.

:cookiemonster:




yes is butane a polar or non polar solvent? I forget, it's strange though they say thc dissolves in water just as well, I guess it dissolves in a number of solvents. But I've always thought butane made hash is better then bubble, although they are pretty close. That is just my opinion most people think the opposite, truthfully hash you just lose a lot of product and get a lot of thc in the little bit of product that you have. Any hash not made with regs leaves, and made carefully very well filtered if not re purified a few times comes out very well.

Bubble hash definitely doesn't suck. can't say which type of hash is the best, they all pretty much knock me out and clog up my pipe, except hash made with alcohol and regs leaves. And I never beefed against alcohol having 7% water and not being anhydrous. It's just not practical to use crap to make good hash, and small amounts of it either. Hash is a rich man's dr ug:thumbup:




its all relative, hash is the most popular thing in many poor country, that's just whats available to them i guess, and I guess it is because they can't grow super duper mega hydro buds like around here but that's an other topic....

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: cacharstar]
    #16183677 - 05/04/12 09:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Butane is non polar. Water is polar. THC does not mix well in water.  That's why during a cwe the THC crystallizes and sinks to the bottom.  Butane extractions should be ran thru a charcoal filter to improve clarity.




seems like you know your shit VERY well. did you studied anything related to this in school or are you an autodidact like I'm trying to be?

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16183742 - 05/04/12 09:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I know a fish that swam in water. It got me wet.


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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: cacharstar]
    #16183763 - 05/04/12 09:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Dark dissolve dark and light dissolves light!


Nothing like some gen chem 2!


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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: withoutawire]
    #16183909 - 05/04/12 10:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know if this was said yet.
The whole polar non- polar thing I believe to be right.
But also the fact that the pressurized butane freezes the thc makes it separate from the plant matter much easier.


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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: why does THC stick to butane? [Re: fee]
    #16185287 - 05/05/12 09:09 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

^^^ Pressure and temp definitly do play a role in the extraction process.

I've noticed that when packing my extraction tube extra tight I get better results because of the extra pressure created.

I've also heard people say they get better results when they freeze their extraction tube before they spray.


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