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Lucy25
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Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others
#16180181 - 05/04/12 02:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey, So this is SWIM first time growing so SWIM have a few questions. First a little Background: -SWIM inoculated 12 BRF cakes about 4 weeks ago - Lost 4 Jars due to contam, and had eight grow - Last week one jar was fully colonized, this week another is 100%. SWIMs temp has remained constant at around 83 degrees then temp bumped up (Texas) and SWIM had to move them to my closet which is about 75 degrees. The rest of my jars are around 70-90% colonized, I am wondering why did it take so long? SWIM should add that with a few jars SWIM added a little too much spores (first time jitters )
SWIMs Second question now has to due with my pinning of this cake SWIM have in my fruiting chamber (typical terrarium with perlite and holes drilled on all six sides). SWIM birthed and rolled it 3 days ago and SWIM has not seen any growth, SWIM has a slight violet almost fuzz growing on it and SWIM used a q tip but nothing came off so is that normal? when should SWIM see pinning on this cake? thanks!
Edited by Lucy25 (05/04/12 02:21 AM)
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16180208 - 05/04/12 02:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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4 weeks is normal to be where you are it could be a result of 100's of things .. and we need pics to help you with the contams . Misting +fanning = evaporation = pinning. The jars that are in the fc did you let them sit a week after they had reached 100%?
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16180212 - 05/04/12 02:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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SWIM should also add SWIMs humidity sensor says SWIM is at 99% it could be higher due to it only goes up to 99%. How does SWIM lower the humidity? He let it sit about 5 Days or so, would it affect it that much? and I've been fanning about 5 times a day haven't been misiting yesterday because of the humidity being up so high. I will put pictures up ASAP
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16180224 - 05/04/12 02:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well first off the whole swim thing come on its not that serious please stop lol ok it sounds like you have a shotgun fc correct? Did you make it to spec holes 2" apart on all sides including the lid ? Dpi you have 4to6" of perlite? There really is no such thing as to much humidity and what are you using to measure it? Is it calibrated ? What kind of light are you using? And what cycle do you have it on ?
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: SimpleFarmer]
#16180902 - 05/04/12 09:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I Was getting tired of it too. But Yes I have a shotgun fruiting chamber, I'd say holes are about 3IN apart on all 6 sides, about 3.5In of Perlite, I am using a blue/white LED grow light (blue light is 450nm). My cycle currently looks as followed. 7AM- mist (if need be), fan, light 10AM-fan 1PM-fan, mist, turn off light 4PM- Fan 7PM- Mist, Fan, turn on light 11PM- Turn off light, check humidity
And I am using an indoor temperature and humidity sensor bought from walmart so its pretty cheap, I couldn't tell you if it was calibrated or not, the directions were literally put the batteries in, set it down. After looking at the cake more this morning I would say it looks kinda bluish/violet/whitish fuzz, still didn't remove with a q tip though. Pictures will be up later today if not tomorrow. thanks
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16180989 - 05/04/12 10:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Blue is ok (well better than green) just bruising it might be a little dry, pics are needed . The sgfc needs to be elevated so it can get good air flow, jar lids on the corners or blocks .. and you might want to add an inch or 2 of perlite ..
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: SimpleFarmer]
#16181052 - 05/04/12 10:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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First, thanks for ditching the "SWIM" BS.
Your jars colonize at different rates due to it being Multi-Spore (MS) genetics. You've got, literally, thousands of different genetics going in all your jars. Therefore, they colonize at different rates.
You want your lights on a 12/12 schedule.
Ditch the electric hygrometer. Buy a calibratable analog hygrometer from a cigar shop or online.
& be patient.
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: TranscendingLife]
#16181084 - 05/04/12 10:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Swim...Adult Swim? I love that fucking show!
Swim (YOU) can get bluish shit on your cakes from misting heavily...YOU watch the fuzz if it turns hunter green, toss a match with gas in YOUR FC....Isolate and clean everything!
When I say ISOLATE, I mean pop it into a plastic bag, and dispose of out of your HOUSE, not worth trying to recover it and risk contaminating your environment.
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: GimpCollector]
#16181093 - 05/04/12 10:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I forgot to mention that the Q-tip swab test is old/bad info.
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: TranscendingLife]
#16181272 - 05/04/12 11:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help and I heard it doesn't really matter when you give light to your shrooms as long as its around 8-12 hrs? I heard even 4 hrs can do the trick?
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16181280 - 05/04/12 11:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, it does matter. Mushrooms operate on a circadian rhythm just like us. You should colonize in ambient 12/12 lighting & then when fruiting comes introduce intense lighting on the same schedule as colonizing.
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: TranscendingLife]
#16181529 - 05/04/12 12:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Never knew about the lighting while colonizing, couldn't that trigger early pinning? or because of such low light does it not matter?
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Sunlight splatters, dawn with answer, darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye."
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16181667 - 05/04/12 12:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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My jars sit on a shelf in a room that is normally lit during the day, no problems of early pinning before colonization has completed.
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: GimpCollector]
#16181718 - 05/04/12 01:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Light is a secondary pinning trigger. Mycelium benefits from it at all stages of growth.
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: TranscendingLife]
#16181946 - 05/04/12 02:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ahh that could also be the source of why some of my jars are taking forever perhaps. Second question when people say "mist" they do mean mist just the perlite and the walls correct? Also fan for only thirty seconds? I have read different things (everyone somewhere is contradicted on these things), but not directly misting the cake makes the most sense to me so for now this is what I have been doing. Good news is that the fuzzy spot looks like it formed some hyphal knots (hopefully I could have misidentified due to first grow), but hopefully those are what I think they are
-------------------- "Lady finger, dipped in moonlight, writing "What for?" across the morning sky.
Sunlight splatters, dawn with answer, darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye."
"Waitin till that deal go down, dontcha let that deal go down."
"Leavin Texas 4th day of july, clouds so low sun so hot and the eagles fill the sky."
"shake it shake it sugaree"
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16181968 - 05/04/12 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I heavily mist the perlite & sides of the tub. Then do a vary light misting over the cakes by spraying the water in the air. Then fan for a minute, maybe a bit less.
I don't heavily & directly mist my cakes. Just lightly.
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"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart…. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."- Carl Jung
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: TranscendingLife]
#16182013 - 05/04/12 02:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay great I have been doing that right at least. Hopefully I get a decent flush I'm thinking I'll be on the way low end :/
-------------------- "Lady finger, dipped in moonlight, writing "What for?" across the morning sky.
Sunlight splatters, dawn with answer, darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye."
"Waitin till that deal go down, dontcha let that deal go down."
"Leavin Texas 4th day of july, clouds so low sun so hot and the eagles fill the sky."
"shake it shake it sugaree"
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16182106 - 05/04/12 02:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You never know. It's a genetic crap shoot w/ MS. One cake could give you 3 grams dry the other could give you 28 grams...
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"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart…. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."- Carl Jung
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: TranscendingLife]
#16182120 - 05/04/12 02:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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that'd be awesome, I recently have only had penis envys to trip on and I know this is wierd but I'm bored of them so I decided this grow for B+ because I heard they were easy probably gonna be way less potent than the PE's
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Sunlight splatters, dawn with answer, darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye."
"Waitin till that deal go down, dontcha let that deal go down."
"Leavin Texas 4th day of july, clouds so low sun so hot and the eagles fill the sky."
"shake it shake it sugaree"
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Re: Help! Slow Myc growth w some jars, fruiting problems w/ others [Re: Lucy25]
#16182181 - 05/04/12 03:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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A cube is a cube as far as growing is concerned.
PEs are notorious for being a bit more potent than other cubes.
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      How I Do EVERYTHING     
"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart…. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."- Carl Jung
"Anything that can be done chemically can be done by other means."- William S. Burroughs
"You are as dead now as you will ever be" - Seth
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