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Differences between hallucinogens?
    #1617518 - 06/08/03 12:04 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

I was wondering how the effects of acid, shrooms, mescaline, etc. are different. I have done acid three times, but never experienced anything more than a level 2 trip. I've done shrooms twice and experienced a level 3 and 5 trip, respectively. The main difference I found between the two drugs was the level of energy(acid made me feel more hyper).

Anyway, I was wondering what mescaline is like(I'd like to try it if I could find some). I've heard it has more empathogenic effects similar to ecstacy. Is that true?

Describe your opinion on the differences you've felt between different hallucinogens.


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1617682 - 06/08/03 02:17 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

SHROOMS: Shrooms for me are very mellow, cloudy trip. I get major mind-fuck on shrooms with some decent visuals and bodyhigh.

MESCALINE: Mescaline is very different than shrooms. I really love mescaline, its my favorite drug. Expect little mind-fuck unless your really dosing high, you'll get some amazingly beautiful visuals. You feel a great connection with nature and might find yourself doing some wierd things. I really don't see how you could have a bad trip. Its very euphoric, you can feel wave after wave hit you. Its also pretty speedy. LSD I've found is somewhat of a mix between shrooms and mescaline leaning on the shrooms side.


It(mescaline) is a kind of phenethylamine(sp?) Which is similar to amphetamine. The way I've heard it works is that its an analogue of norepinephrine, so your brain makes the mistake of using it as a neurotransmitter because they are so structurally similar, don't know if you know anything about brain chemistry.

Hell if you want to try it its not too hard to find (in cactus form)

Edited by Journey (06/08/03 10:50 PM)

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1617864 - 06/08/03 07:15 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

San pedro is even gentler than mushrooms. (San pedro for me is a better experience than pure mescaline) Very, very pleasant body high, perhaps even better than shrooms. Generally the overwhelming vibe is love and happiness. I'd say it edges closer to Ecstasy than mushrooms but it's a far better experience than Ecstasy with zero hangover effects or mood crashes. Best place to be with San Pedro is nature - it's a very nature oriented entheogen. Kinder to music than shrooms.

Only trouble is to avoid the nausea you need to take it rectally  :laugh:


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1617949 - 06/08/03 08:55 AM (21 years, 12 days ago)

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Only trouble is to avoid the nausea you need to take it rectally



That's ok. I'm a big boy and I can handle a little nausea. I've puked on E before and it wasn't really a big deal.


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1618284 - 06/08/03 12:01 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Good luck finding real mescaline on the streets.

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: DailyPot]
    #1618288 - 06/08/03 12:03 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Forget buying it off the streets. I'll just go into a plant nursery and buy a few San Pedro cacti.


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1618462 - 06/08/03 02:07 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

have you tried smoking DMT? Very, very intense. If it lasted more than ten minutes I dont think any sane person would try it. People say its safe, but I doubt its quite as harmless as people say.

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: trypyamine]
    #1618679 - 06/08/03 03:57 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

" If it lasted more than ten minutes I dont think any sane person would try it"

Such a blatantly misinformed statement, think; ayahuasca/pharmhausca brew.

Also, its still a research chemical, long term effects havent been extensively studied so its a "take at your own risk" kinda thing.


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: PDU]
    #1618686 - 06/08/03 03:59 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Yo, he said DMT. Not 5-meo DMT which is a research chem and what you have.

It lasts like 20-30 min though.

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1618703 - 06/08/03 04:06 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

So whats your point?


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: PDU]
    #1618713 - 06/08/03 04:10 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

DMT isnt a research chemical. And he was pretty close with the effect duration.

The last part was just his opinion, yes it wasnt a good opinion. But then I just said my opinion and is that valid?

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1618763 - 06/08/03 04:25 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Well, DMT is sold as a research chemical through research suppliers and that seems to be how alot of people get it, rather than extract it. The studies havent been done to show any real evidence about long term effects but more can be seen about this i the "can a DMT overdose cause braindamage" thread. But yeah, it was just an opinion and i was correcting the opinion as it was wrong. Anyways, sorry for causing a confusion.


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1618765 - 06/08/03 04:26 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Bump

Neither DMT or 5-meo-dmt are Research chemicles as they are found in nature and have been used for a very long time even though they can be bought from a RC supplier.


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: PDU]
    #1618769 - 06/08/03 04:28 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Hey you are wrong. You are thinking of 5-meo DMT.

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1618787 - 06/08/03 04:35 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Oh well Bump got a bit confussed there a bit.  :confused:


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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: EvilGir]
    #1618793 - 06/08/03 04:37 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

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Oh well Bump got a bit confussed there a bit. 


Huh?? :confused: 

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1618819 - 06/08/03 04:49 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Whats great about NNDMT is how easy it is to extract from mimosa. Only takes a few hours. The effects of an average smoked dose are far more powerful than an average oral ayahuasca dose. People have different tollerance for this stuff, but most people if they take a 50mg hit are on the ground with their eyes rolling to the back of therir head. Ive overdosed and forgot I was on DMT. i was so fucked up I was in a compleat hallucination. I couldnt feel my body or see the room I was in or tell if I was breathing or convusing or lying with my face in a pillow. Once I saw a 23 year old take a hit and he just grabed his crotch and keept repeating "I think I pooped my pants. Am I going to jail?"

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: trypyamine]
    #1618833 - 06/08/03 04:54 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

Really, only a few hours?

I have wondered after reading a tech how long it would all take.

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Re: Differences between hallucinogens? [Re: trypyamine]
    #1618840 - 06/08/03 04:59 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

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Once I saw a 23 year old take a hit and he just gust grabed his crotch and keept repeating "I think I pooped my pants. Am I going to jail?"




ROTFL that sound so funny, but I know it not cos DMT is some powerfull stuff. I am still after some though after my many many failed attempts of the DMT brew.

I have tried AMT though many times and I found it to be so much fun at first but then the negative effects started to out way the good. Not forgetting that stuff lasts 16h + and I used to end up sleeping for 24h after a dose.


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    #1618859 - 06/08/03 05:11 PM (21 years, 12 days ago)

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