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First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS
    #16172402 - 05/02/12 05:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quick rundown:  Got a 66qt monotub that I spawned on April 21st.  I used Damion's Coir tek and about 7 quarts of spawn.

So, checked it today and wanted to get every body's opinion on if I should go ahead and fruit.  Also I topped the mixed spawn/sub with some leftover mix as Damion's tek calls for, so I think thats the reason its not completely white on the top.  Also,  there's about 5 small pins that have formed.  Anyways, pics below.  Two pics are with a small light, and the other two are with the CFL's shining to get a better pic.



So, should I go ahead and fruit or give it more time?  I was thinking this weekend.

Appreciate the help. 

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16172499 - 05/02/12 05:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I find that 15 days is TYPICALLY a good wait time, because knotting is good by then. If you can, wait until you see about a dozen pins. If you dont wait with the ports closed, you'll end up waiting with the ports open. Same thing. From what I can tell, it looks 100% and is likely consolidating. I'd personally wait until May 5


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: elkart]
    #16172512 - 05/02/12 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Open up a port and take a peek. Are there SMALL white dots? (knots)


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: elkart]
    #16172599 - 05/02/12 06:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I can see through, its just when I attempt to take a pic the light messes with the image.  But yeah, i think I've seen those.  And like I said, there's 5 pins formed so far.  2 of them are by themselves and then there's a cluster of three pins coming off one spot of mycelium.

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16172710 - 05/02/12 06:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You could initiate fruiting now if you like, but I'd wait a day or two longer. It's gonna do it's thing regardless. No worries


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: elkart]
    #16172713 - 05/02/12 06:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

by the way...your name is HILARIOUS


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: elkart]
    #16173120 - 05/02/12 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You could initiate fruiting now if you like, but I'd wait a day or two longer. It's gonna do it's thing regardless. No worries




Yeah, I think I might do it Friday.  How long do you think til harvest from here?

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Haha, thanks.  :stoned:

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16173329 - 05/02/12 08:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Once you see heavy pinning at a healthy level (1-3 inches tall) it typically takes about 5 days. Really, the long waiting period is mostly over. They tend to speed up for the fruiting finish, which is exciting. It's difficult to say how far off you are from that phase though. Guessing from blurry photos, I'd say +2 weeks until you'll be thinking of picking


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: elkart]
    #16173819 - 05/02/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So, I have a timer for my fan and the room its gonna be fruiting in is fairly small...  What would you recommend I set my fanning schedule to?

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174154 - 05/02/12 10:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you introduce that to fruiting now in about a week u should be picking
that is if you followed damions tek like you said

when using his tek ull want to switch to fruiting once you see about 2/3 of the top layer covered by myc


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16174231 - 05/02/12 10:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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you introduce that to fruiting now in about a week u should be picking
that is if you followed Damion's tek like you said

when using his tek ull want to switch to fruiting once you see about 2/3 of the top layer covered by myc




Yeah, followed Damion's coir tek but used about 7 quarts of spawn.  And I followed Transcending Life's monotub tek.  Both to a T...  I plan on fruiting Fri or sat.

It's kinda funny I spawned on late 4/20, fruiting on cinco de mayo, and possibly harvesting on mothers day.  Lmao, is that the cultivation turkey or just a hat trick?

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174261 - 05/02/12 10:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I would say its fully colonized but letting your tub consolidate makes a big difference.  Id say fruit it this week end. 7-10 days later you should be harvesting.:super:
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I plan on fruiting Fri or sat.




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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: truskool]
    #16174305 - 05/02/12 10:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for all the help man!  So far so good for my first attempt.  Lol, but hopefully ill get a good first flush.  I still have 10cc's of Venezuelan from a trusted sponsor.  Haven't heard much about it though... Thinking about maybe doing some cakes with it, but I really like the tub setup.  :grin:

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174316 - 05/02/12 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea tubs are the only way to grow cubes IMHO.  I believe every grower should grow cakes though to begin with.  Tubs are the most efficient way to grow cubes


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: truskool]
    #16174337 - 05/02/12 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I kinda got froggy and skipped a step.  Lol, but looks like it is kinda working out.  Still kinda wanna try some of the cakes though.  Just not as efficient like you said... Hey, so what would you recommend for my fan timer?  Any certain schedule to have it on?

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174359 - 05/02/12 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's kinda funny I spawned on late 4/20, fruiting on cinco de mayo, and possibly harvesting on mothers day.  Lmao, is that the cultivation turkey or just a hat trick?




That's hilarious! Even better if your wet weight of first flush added up all the dates 420, 505, 513. -1438-


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174377 - 05/02/12 10:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, I kinda got froggy and skipped a step.  Lol, but looks like it is kinda working out.  Still kinda wanna try some of the cakes though.  Just not as efficient like you said... Hey, so what would you recommend for my fan timer?  Any certain schedule to have it on?



Yea if you skipped them there are still worthwhile lessons to be learned by doing cakes I would suggest growing some.  Yes the yields arent great with them though.

You should have your fan on low pointed away from your tub


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: truskool]
    #16174435 - 05/02/12 10:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So have it going 24/7?

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    #16174448 - 05/02/12 10:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It's kinda funny I spawned on late 4/20, fruiting on cinco de mayo, and possibly harvesting on mothers day.  Lmao, is that the cultivation turkey or just a hat trick?




That's hilarious! Even better if your wet weight of first flush added up all the dates 420, 505, 513. -1438-




Yeah, I think I could live with that size flush.  Haha.

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174459 - 05/02/12 11:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: truskool]
    #16174485 - 05/02/12 11:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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So have it going 24/7?



:bigyesnod:




Lmao, ill take big smiley as a yes.  :stoned:

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174515 - 05/02/12 11:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Or you could take the bigyesnod gramelim as a yes :shrug:
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    #16174534 - 05/02/12 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Or you could take the bigyesnod gramelim as a yes :shrug:
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This is also true... Need to learn all those.  Lol

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    #16174544 - 05/02/12 11:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have to hover over them all the time


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    #16174559 - 05/02/12 11:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I have to hover over them all the time




I am hovering at the moment.  Haha...

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    #16174768 - 05/03/12 12:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

first off fans are never a good idea
most people will not recommend using one
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    #16174818 - 05/03/12 12:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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first off fans are never a good idea
most people will not recommend using one
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Well, I work a lot.  So, needed something to circulate the air in the room while I'm gone.  Then fan a bunch when I'm home.  Fruiting Fri, so ill have all weekend to manually fan, but during the week ill need something to circulate.  And I'm still a noob, but after 100% colonization wouldn't it be able to fight off contams on its own?  And wouldn't the polyfill block contams from getting in?

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16174843 - 05/03/12 12:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

once fully colonized it will be more resistant to contams
and yes the pollyfill will help block contams from getting in
in a room the lower part hold a lot more mold spores
then the fan will kick them all up and put them all through the room
then opening to mist you have a greater chance of them landing in your fc

also circulating air around your room will have no affect on your fea
it will do nothing for your fc

beside a monotub is ment to be started and let go
you can pretty much forget about a monotub until your ready to harvest

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16175053 - 05/03/12 01:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I use a ceiling fan and I have now problems. Just make sure you clean it regularly. Dust will collect anywhere even on a fan on the floor it's fucking dust  :commonsense:

But that bad boy looks ready to go as long as you let it consolidate like what the rest of these rad people said. Keep us posted, love to see the yield looks way better than my first one  :dancer:

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    #16175076 - 05/03/12 01:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I use a ceiling fan and I have now problems. Just make sure you clean it regularly. Dust will collect anywhere even on a fan on the floor it's fucking dust  :commonsense:

But that bad boy looks ready to go as long as you let it consolidate like what the rest of these rad people said. Keep us posted, love to see the yield looks way better than my first one  :dancer:

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yes it is just fucking dust
but what does does contain
it wouldnt be any contaminate spores would it?
um yea duh, dust has a lot of mold spore in it


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: zamora333]
    #16175082 - 05/03/12 01:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Keep us updated with pics. I think the fan is a good idea, and for the kicking up dust thing, many ppl use fans to help with FAE using monos. Just don't point it at the floor if you're worried. I would nail the fan to a corner of the room near the ceiling and point it to the adjacent corner without pointing it towards the floor.

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16175088 - 05/03/12 01:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:douchewink:

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: zamora333]
    #16175531 - 05/03/12 06:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I use a small, cheap hepa filter on the floor pointed up in front of my monos in the closet, running 24/7


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: elkart]
    #16175610 - 05/03/12 07:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I was planning on having the fan on a bar stool that's about 3 1/2 feet off the ground and point it up.  I was also planning on spraying Lysol before opening the tub to fan... But letting the spray settle before.  Also, for harvesting, do you twist and pick or cut the shrooms off?  I've read both, but I think I remember reading that if you get a sharp sterile scalpel (or something similar) you can just cut it off close to the bottom to not disturb the mycelium around the shroom.  Thoughts?

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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: poondocksaint]
    #16175862 - 05/03/12 09:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Fans are fine for fruiting.
They help provide FAE.
The polyfil in your holes during fruiting isn't stopping any contaminants as it's way too loose.
If the polyfil were tight in the holes like a grain jar, then yes, it'd stop contams, but it's not.
No reason to lysol or be clean about fanning your tubs & I bet you won't have to w/ a fan going.
I use a small desk fan on high pointed at my tubs 24/7. No contams, no problems & everything is in my basement
(where the dog likes to have his accidents) & the fan is only 22" off the ground.

Twisting & pulling will damage the mycelium network.
Use a sharp pair of scissors or knife or scalpel & cut as close to the surface of the substrate as possible.
The stumps will NOT rot.


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #16175940 - 05/03/12 09:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds good to me man.  Thanks for the help, you're tek worked perfectly!  And just to clarify, the fan is pointed at the tub?  This won't dry out your sub?

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    #16175956 - 05/03/12 09:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nope. It's all about the polyfil density/tightness.



You wan the substrate to dry out a bit.
The number one pinning trigger is evaporating moisture from the surface of the substrate.


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Re: First Monotub *update* Ready to Fruit? w/ PICS [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #16176013 - 05/03/12 10:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Alright...  So, Polyfil just enough so its almost falling out and fan pointed at the tub.  And I know you said I shouldn't have to fan manually with the fan going, but do you think I should to be on the safe side?  I mean as long as your sub isn't drying out, it would seem like you can't fan too much...

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    #16176039 - 05/03/12 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can fan too much.
If you fan too much, you'll hurt your RH.
Watch your mushrooms. They'll tell you whether or not you need to fan more.
As for RH, get a hygrometer.


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    #16176065 - 05/03/12 10:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man.

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