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Aedan



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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#16168301 - 05/01/12 09:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you want monster fruit you should transfer your grain to pasteurized horse manure. In my experience it is the cheapest and easiest substrate you can prepare and yields amazing.
Edit: I even mix the colonized rye berries into the pasteurized manure with my bare hands and it grows perfect with no contamination every time.
Edited by Aedan (05/01/12 09:46 PM)
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broodwar1989
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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: Aedan]
#16168340 - 05/01/12 09:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol I have been trying for a couple months now and have dealt with some cantams and other issues. This was my first successful grow and I really loved watching through the whole cycle and next time I will improve once more. I know knowledge is gained over a course of time and no matter what you can never have enough knowledge in any subject. This is my subject, I love the science of it and totally enjoy the whole process. I will stuff my brain until it explodes ^.^
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Aedan



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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: broodwar1989]
#16168430 - 05/01/12 10:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haha. Yeah the hobby of growing is just as enjoyable as the finished product. I consider growing an art and you get to develop and expand your own technique. Once you find what works best though you tend to stick with it. My technique is to sterilize a few pints of rye berries and inoculate them, then transfer to manure. It's very easy once you learn what you're doing.
My reasons for using manure:
*Free (craigslist, local stables etc) or very cheap *Super food for mushrooms. They grow HUGE. *Mushrooms grow on it naturally *Harbors thermophilic bacteria which prevents contamination after pasteurization *incredibly easy to prepare
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broodwar1989
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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: Aedan]
#16168471 - 05/01/12 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree the manure sounds very efficient. I will have to try using a manure mycobag along with a ryeberry mycobag so I can view the difference. That will be a very interesting project thanks for the great ideas guys!
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Aedan



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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: broodwar1989]
#16168539 - 05/01/12 10:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's best to start with grain first and then transfer to manure as a bulk substrate. It is more of a buffer than a primary substrate. This is the tek I reference for manure preparation: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/723303/an/0/page/5
Anyway best of luck
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Aedan



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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: Aedan]
#16168696 - 05/01/12 10:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry for the double post but I have one more quick thing to add. When using manure you can use anywhere from 1:2 parts grain to poo up to 1:10 parts. I usually use 1:3 so it's 25% grain and 75% manure. The more spawn you use the faster it will colonize.
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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: Aedan]
#16168878 - 05/01/12 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, don't try to just inoculate a manure bag with spores or LC. It won't work. You need to colonize some kind of grain spawn first, and then transfer that into the poo.
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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#16169257 - 05/02/12 01:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I do for minibulks is to use tupperware and keep the lid. When a flush is over fill the tupperware to the top with water covering everything including the casing layer on top. Put the lid on. Leave for 12-24 hours (depends on strain, something you learn with time) and then empty out the water by opening up a side of the lid and pouring out the water... all out. I get at least 5 flushes this way.
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broodwar1989
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Im not shooting for mini bulk here. I think you misunderstood. I said I have a 50 gal tub. I plan on taking the pans out of the sequence and just using the tub and filling it about a 1/4 full using a 1" verm casing base and 4" of sub then another 2" of verm top layer. Using the casing to humidify itself.
I will also be trying the manure tek on the side. Maybe I can move it in slowly with the cycle I already have going now.
Edited by broodwar1989 (05/02/12 09:37 AM)
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Re: No more than 1 flush or what? [Re: broodwar1989]
#16170669 - 05/02/12 11:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ah okay, I thought you had smaller trays inside your FC. That's what I do. Lots of smaller trays, in my case tupperware, easy to take one out and dunk it, or all out and dunk them. If it was all together as one in one big 50gal tub it would make it more complex but not impossible. Good luck.
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thank u. it will be pretty complex but i think ill do just fine with it. it should work out all right i will order mycobags tomorrow and noc them then im off to a good start. im thinking ill use 4-5 x 3lbs mycobags as substrate and that should provide plenty sub to the casing.
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