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InvisiblePhalanxx
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Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless?
    #1612355 - 06/05/03 07:05 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I'm referring to roughly 5g+ dry. I have taken a few high doses, and all I learned was not to bother taking them again. The thoughts shoot through your mind randomly at 90mph, you can't focus on them at all. For me it is total pointless confusion. :frown:

On lower doses, like around 2g, you can focus on the thoughts that float into your head, and make the most of them. You can contemplate and develop spiritual perceptions and insights. I have had quite rewarding trips on just 1g. Does anyone honestly find ultra-high doses useful? :confused: 


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: Phalanxx]
    #1612399 - 06/05/03 07:25 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I enjoy the complete mind fuck of higher doses. I have done about 8g cubes dry and had a lot of fun. I love just sitting there and thinking at 90mph as you say. I enjoy them, but I enjoy tripping more clear headed also, just depends on my mood. If I was ever going to trip by myself it would have to be on a high dose because it seem on high doses the outside world isn't as interresting as whats going on in your head. Thats just my opinion.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: ScubySnak420]
    #1612418 - 06/05/03 07:35 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I'd say it all depends on what you're trying to do. If your goal is ego-loss, for example, high doses certainly do have a point. If you're trying to have a social tie with some friends, maybe not (depending on how high we're talking about). All depends on the purpose and the person.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: Pala]
    #1612519 - 06/05/03 08:12 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Lower doses are definitely more useful if you have a goal in your mind. My one experience with 7g pc scared me witless, and I couldn't even walk properly, let alone contemplate the secrets of the universe.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: Phalanxx]
    #1612562 - 06/05/03 08:27 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Nothing beats the tail end of a 7 gram mushroom trip.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #1612661 - 06/05/03 08:58 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

High dose trips are in no way pointless. I belive they can actually be very functional and enlightening with people who are more experienced with tripping. To me, it seems the more I trip on higher dosages the more and more lower dosages seem pointless. Rather then doing 2 or 3 lower dose trips in a month, I would rather do one level 4 or 5 trip every month or every other month.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: djd586]
    #1612728 - 06/05/03 09:13 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

High doses are the most functional doses for me. A high dose, alone, 7g+ is how i can actually figure out what i need to about whatevers on my mind (generally, life). Low doses brings up some questions for me, but is no good for finding answers.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: Phalanxx]
    #1612803 - 06/05/03 09:34 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I can't remember half the thoughts I had on my 5g dose of shrooms, but I do remember that when I came down, I had a profound new respect for life and this reality. I just said to myself, "What the fuck have I been complaining about this whole time?! Life is great!!!!" It was the most profound spiritual experience I've ever had. So to answer your question: No, they are not pointless. I learned a hell of a lot more from that experience than I did from the 2.5 grams I had previously done.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #1612883 - 06/05/03 10:03 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Terence McKenna says that there is a markable difference in those who eat 3.5 grams and those who eat above 5 grams.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #1613041 - 06/05/03 11:04 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Definately!


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1613092 - 06/05/03 11:23 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Thats what its about right there man!


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #1613123 - 06/05/03 11:33 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

I almost always eat at least 7g. And I actually prefer to be by myself. Its amazing the things you learn about youself and how spirtual it really is. When someone else is around you tend to care to much what they thnk or how they act. When your alone you enter the depths of your own mind.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: hotrod]
    #1613274 - 06/06/03 12:14 AM (14 years, 22 days ago)

Thats why i feel its so important to eat them alone, because then there is nothing to distract you from what your facing, the good, or the bad in your own mind, and your more likely to come away having solved something. I would get irritated on a small dose alone.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: PDU]
    #1613725 - 06/06/03 03:39 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

I'm a big fan of 1g - 2g doses...I hardly ever take more unless its accidental


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: Phalanxx]
    #1614169 - 06/06/03 09:50 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Hey guys,

I think there is a thing about high doses that is important to mention here. That is, that sometimes a psychedelic experience isn't about focusing intensely on thoughts, or words in your head, but rather defocusing your mind and allowing the chaos of your mind to come forth and saturate your conciousness, like what Timothy Leary etc. always encouraged.

If you take a high dose, but then still try to cling on to some kind of ordinary reality, with words and sentences running through your head and forming thoughts, then yeah of course it is going to be overwhelming and probably confusing.

As was said before, a high dose can catalyse total ego loss. I find that when I'm in this state, normal thought patterns are obsolete, the experience is no longer in words but in other languages i.e. through visual and audio hallucinations.

I agree, if you want to think about things like your social life and stuff, or where you're going with your life or maybe if you want to look at some art and contemplate that, then a low dose is usually better. But for a more abstract / 'spiritually' rewarding trip, a high dose can be very satisfying.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: zee_werp]
    #1614259 - 06/06/03 11:07 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

agreed, with high doses, you just have to let go and let the shrooms do the driveing for you, otherwise you're setting yourself up for an unpleasent experience.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: zee_werp]
    #1614312 - 06/06/03 11:32 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Well said. :grin: 


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: zee_werp]
    #1614451 - 06/06/03 01:30 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

Exactly. Low doses are more intellectual/emotional, whereas high doses are much more spiritual.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1614861 - 06/06/03 04:20 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

I think high doses are kind of a show of manhood amongst drug users. You supposedly have a bravado or something if you can eat a half zip of shroomies and live to tell.

If your eating a high dose to impress someone or brag, then shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down and prepare for a total mindfuck. If your eating a high dose because you want to let your mind enjoy itself and take you to new places for a few hours, you've got a better mindset.

I like eating a few shrooms and just seeing breathing walls or laughing a lot, but I like eating a lot of shrooms and laying back with some good classical or folk music on and losing myself in winamp visualisations too.

It's like the difference between smoking a bowl or smoking a few blunts. You can smoke a bowl before you go to work, but don't smoke a few blunts if you have any plans in mind really, because that's not what being blunted is about.


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Re: Are ultra-high shroom doses pointless? [Re: psilo9com]
    #1614890 - 06/06/03 04:38 PM (14 years, 21 days ago)

I don't think people who really do high doses think it's manly or vain.
If your really getting high it's like being a baby in a brand new world.
It can be terrifying and leave you shaking on the floor as your ego blast's into a million pieces. You realize that YOU or I are nothing in the cosmic scheme of things. Your just another little piece of creation but are connected to all.

I don't see how people think it's macho. The experiance is anything but macho.
People who brag about there manhood because of how high of a dose they take are probably not even taking that much. If they were the mushroom would be slappin the shit out of there over-inflated ego.
I find that most folk who take high doses do so because thats what works best for them. The ones who take high doses for ego inflating reasons usually get burnt rather quickly. :cool:
 


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