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PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? 1
#16113091 - 04/19/12 07:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've only come across a few references to ovoids in the PNW. There are a few on mushroomobserver and so far I've only found one in this forum, in the 2011 ovoid thread (thought it was weird that no one in the thread made any comments about how cool it was this guy found the ovoid in Seattle).
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14620700#14620700
I live in portland and this weekend will be looking along the rivers (looks like it will get into the 70's after a period of rain).
Anyway I was wondering if there was any more info out there or if anyone with more experience has some advice. For example are the PNW ovoid finds even in the same habitat? mushroomobserver has one location as xxx creek but that doesn't mean the mushroom was found alongside the creek, it could be the name of a neighborhood for all i know.
Edited by Freedom (04/19/12 07:29 PM)
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Re: PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? [Re: Freedom]
#16113815 - 04/19/12 09:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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For example are the PNW ovoid finds even in the same habitat?
No. On the west coast, ovoids are only found in wood chip landscaping. Wild finds are only in the midwest.
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Re: PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16114007 - 04/19/12 10:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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For example are the PNW ovoid finds even in the same habitat?
No. On the west coast, ovoids are only found in wood chip landscaping. Wild finds are only in the midwest.
So they only grow where people have intentionally tried to grow them?
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maynardjameskeenan said: So they only grow where people have intentionally tried to grow them?
No. They occur naturally in wood chip landscaping.
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Re: PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16114028 - 04/19/12 10:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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maynardjameskeenan said: So they only grow where people have intentionally tried to grow them?
No. They occur naturally in wood chip landscaping.
Couldn't they grow in other woody debris 'naturally' too then?
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Re: PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16114062 - 04/19/12 10:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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interesting and this is new probably because shroomers recently found them and distributed their spores enough for them to gain a foothold
so in the next few years we get to see how big the foot hold is
it seems promising because they seem tolerant of more types of wood than the cyanenscens which I've read are mostly in washington because of the use of alder chips
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Re: PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? [Re: Freedom]
#16114086 - 04/19/12 10:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Freedom said: interesting and this is new probably because shroomers recently found them and distributed their spores enough for them to gain a foothold
so in the next few years we get to see how big the foot hold is
it seems promising because they seem tolerant of more types of wood than the cyanenscens which I've read are mostly in washington because of the use of alder chips
cyanescens are in Oregon and northern California as well, we use alder here too.
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maynardjameskeenan said: So they only grow where people have intentionally tried to grow them?
No. They occur naturally in wood chip landscaping.
Couldn't they grow in other woody debris 'naturally' too then?
The woodchips may have come from the midwest carrying mycelium or spores.
Before gas prices got ridiculous, every hillbilly with a pickup truck would gather up debris after storms, shred it up and drive north and west to sell it as landscape mulch in the suburbs around the country.
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Re: PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? [Re: Beefy1]
#16114528 - 04/20/12 12:26 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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maynardjameskeenan said: Couldn't they grow in other woody debris 'naturally' too then?
They could, but like cyanofriscosa, they don't.
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Beefy1 said: The woodchips may have come from the midwest carrying mycelium or spores.
I don't think it would make sense to drive wood chips across the whole country.
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Re: PNW ovoideocystidiata, any info or thoughts? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16114575 - 04/20/12 12:44 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, you probably don't get trucks driving that far. but who knows how far they might ship bags of mulch and other wood products that could carry ovoids.
I'm counting on those mulch and firewood trucks bringing them to the upper midwest.
There;s got to be a lot of products that get shipped from oviod country out west that could be carrying. trees, packing material, rustic furniture, who knows.
How did Australia get all it's non natives? How did I end up with asian beetles killing all my trees? all kinds of foreign species seem to have no trouble hitching a ride in unexpected places.
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