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Kickle
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The power of discernment is misguided?
#16107537 - 04/18/12 05:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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"The human being's power of discernment is aided by our many technologies and sciences, but it is because of our wish to be happy and not to suffer that our discernment is actually used. However, each time this discernment is employed, its very use creates a multitude of problems and sufferings."
Do you agree with this sentiment?
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: Kickle]
#16108358 - 04/18/12 08:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it is not a clear statement though it tries to deal with clarity or at least with a kind of ratiocination towards clarity. Discernment is not explained or fixed into a context to take on implicit meaning. I think the meaning is to resolve clearly. or resolve fairly. For this to take place neutrality is required, the neutral judge. Neutral and fair judgment is not misguided - and I think that it is a great goal of judicial systems around the world.
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: redgreenvines]
#16108427 - 04/18/12 08:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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abstraction is incomplete
thought is divergent
yet people believe
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: Kickle]
#16108605 - 04/18/12 08:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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so the political and social will to end suffering causes suffering? yeah maybe, but what's the alternative?
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: redgreenvines]
#16108987 - 04/18/12 09:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: I think it is not a clear statement though it tries to deal with clarity or at least with a kind of ratiocination towards clarity. Discernment is not explained or fixed into a context to take on implicit meaning. I think the meaning is to resolve clearly. or resolve fairly. For this to take place neutrality is required, the neutral judge. Neutral and fair judgment is not misguided - and I think that it is a great goal of judicial systems around the world.
What's fair and who possibly could be unbiased? It might be a goal but it doesn't seem all that realistic to me.
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: blingbling]
#16109040 - 04/18/12 10:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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blingbling said: so the political and social will to end suffering causes suffering? yeah maybe, but what's the alternative?
no alternative on a large scale, just an observation that may influence choices on the individual level
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: Kickle]
#16109746 - 04/19/12 12:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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what did you actually mean or want to mean in the OP
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: redgreenvines]
#16110246 - 04/19/12 05:29 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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One could assume that the heat is on.
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: Kickle]
#16110512 - 04/19/12 07:30 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kickle said:
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blingbling said: so the political and social will to end suffering causes suffering? yeah maybe, but what's the alternative?
no alternative on a large scale, just an observation that may influence choices on the individual level
A paronomasiatic extrapolation of wheat and tares may include separating the heat from the Ares. Let's shuffle on to the next predictable square.
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: Buster_Brown]
#16110596 - 04/19/12 08:06 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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beef jerky anyone?
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: redgreenvines]
#16111807 - 04/19/12 02:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: what did you actually mean or want to mean in the OP
What's written. Broken down into points: Are we ultimately trying to use our power of discernment to achieve happiness? When we use our power of discernment are we achieving happiness? If not, are we causing suffering/more problems with its use?
I tend to agree with the quote but wanted others feelings.
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: Kickle]
#16112580 - 04/19/12 05:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't really understand what is being suggested by discernment happiness discernment in favor of happiness misguided and the whole thing wrapped up as a meaningful statement and why it has come to us as a P&S thread. all of it I don't understand.
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Re: The power of discernment is misguided? [Re: redgreenvines]
#16112581 - 04/19/12 05:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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fair enough
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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