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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: maug]
    #16112922 - 04/19/12 06:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Since when was MHRB illegal?


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: MushyMatt]
    #16112988 - 04/19/12 06:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Materials that contain scheduled substances are illegal.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: joemolloy]
    #16112997 - 04/19/12 07:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

So MHRB is illegal now?


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: MushyMatt]
    #16113021 - 04/19/12 07:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They busted this guy in Canada.  Mimosa hostilis is believed by popular internet lore to be a gray status in the law because it is not specifically scheduled by name.  However, mimosa hostilis is a container of the drug and most websites that sell it do so with other entheogens.  I doubt a legal argument would even come up if any of us were arrested.  We'd cop to a plea.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: MushyMatt]
    #16119309 - 04/21/12 07:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It always has been illegal, the cops are just starting to realize it now.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: joemolloy]
    #16135265 - 04/24/12 08:43 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

NOWHERE in this article is MHRB mentioned...  Do you know why?

The guy wasn't caught with MHRB, he was caught with DMT, already extracted.  It's manufactured in huge quantities in Brazil, and the guy was having the DMT sent to him, just like the article says, not root bark, which the article doesn't mention.

The guy got caught with a SHITLOAD of deemsters, not fuckin' root bark.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: scienceguy]
    #16135300 - 04/24/12 08:54 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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NOWHERE in this article is MHRB mentioned...  Do you know why?

The guy wasn't caught with MHRB, he was caught with DMT, already extracted.  It's manufactured in huge quantities in Brazil, and the guy was having the DMT sent to him, just like the article says, not root bark, which the article doesn't mention.

The guy got caught with a SHITLOAD of deemsters, not fuckin' root bark.



You missed the part about Derek richardson being a known CANADIAN VENDOR of MHRB, I'm pretty sure he was not extracting it. With the business he was getting from the bark he wouldn't need to. They obviously fucked up on the news report.
i also read somewhere that the dude thinks he can win the case because he did NOT have extracted material. I'm sure he will get off alright. His site still isn't down which might mean they are not aware of it. But that might be wishful thinking :frown:


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: SleepyE]
    #16135358 - 04/24/12 09:07 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

Is it really a stretch to imagine that a guy who can get root bark from Brazil to sell to little kiddies can also get DMT?

Once again, this isn't an MHRB bust.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: scienceguy]
    #16135375 - 04/24/12 09:10 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

this isn't the first time MHRB has been mistaken for DMT in a bust and it probably wont be the last.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: SleepyE]
    #16136881 - 04/25/12 04:55 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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this isn't the first time MHRB has been mistaken for DMT in a bust and it probably wont be the last.




Agreed.  News articles always use the MHRB weight and claim it as pure DMT.  They've been doing this for years. 

He imported 120kg of pure DMT and he's also the major Canadian supplier of MHRB?  Fucking absurd.  Scienceguy is flat out wrong.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: joemolloy]
    #16136889 - 04/25/12 05:01 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)



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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: scienceguy]
    #16136910 - 04/25/12 05:22 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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NOWHERE in this article is MHRB mentioned...  Do you know why?

The guy wasn't caught with MHRB, he was caught with DMT, already extracted.  It's manufactured in huge quantities in Brazil, and the guy was having the DMT sent to him, just like the article says, not root bark, which the article doesn't mention.

The guy got caught with a SHITLOAD of deemsters, not fuckin' root bark.




I disagree, it was stopped at the airport which means it never got to him to extract dmt, they stopped his shipment of mhrb and thats what he was busted for...  I really doubt he had all that weight shipped to him in spice form already :nono:  :wow:


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: joemolloy]
    #16137008 - 04/25/12 06:34 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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Materials that contain scheduled substances are illegal.




i've been saying this for a long time. that MHRB is illegal, because it contains DMT. people are too easy to accept the folk-lore stories they hear on the internet that " MHRB is legal ". it's clearly not.

this case, even though its sad, proves my point. ofcourse they probably only went after it because it was a large scale bust. but still.


it seems the authorities are cracking down on internet-based sales these days. :sad:


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: joemolloy]
    #16137287 - 04/25/12 08:52 AM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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They busted this guy in Canada.  Mimosa hostilis is believed by popular internet lore to be a gray status in the law because it is not specifically scheduled by name.  However, mimosa hostilis is a container of the drug and most websites that sell it do so with other entheogens.  I doubt a legal argument would even come up if any of us were arrested.  We'd cop to a plea.




To be charged with it, the prosecution would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you intended to extract DMT from the Mimosa, because it is legal to possess for other reasons, just like mescaline-containing cacti. There was a case in England not to long ago about that, with kids and cacti that got let off because no one could prove they intended to consume the mescaline. I'll try and find it, but no promises...


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: joemolloy]
    #16137581 - 04/25/12 11:03 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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joemolloy said:Scienceguy is flat out wrong.





By all means friend, please substantiate your claims, but try to see it from another perspective. You posted an article that clearly states one thing, and are irritated when others don't automatically jump to the same erroneous conclusion you do about something that wasn't even mentioned in the article actually being the "real" subject.

I'm surprised that many of you are under the impression that nobody would be brazen enough to actually have that much dmt.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: scienceguy]
    #16137680 - 04/25/12 11:46 AM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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By all means friend, please substantiate your claims




You will have to copy/paste the below in it's entirety to make the link work, not click on it, since it is a Google Cache of his website which is down...
EDIT: dangit, I guess you have to Google his name, Derek Richardson Mimosa and click on the cache of his website yourself, because the linking doesn't seem to work, because it edits it somehow...


www.juremaincense.com/+%22Derek+Richardson%22+mimosa&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EOwy2ZZUezcJ:www.juremaincense.com/+%22Derek+Richardson%22+mimosa&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Well he was definitely selling mimosa hostilis rootbark as incense, he lists his full name and city/state/country in that link, what is so hard to believe that once again journalistic sensationalism has occurred calling mimosa plant matter DMT?

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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: dwpineal]
    #16137732 - 04/25/12 12:05 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: 13shrooms]
    #16137811 - 04/25/12 12:25 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

Why is it so hard for us to consider the idea that maybe he actually was caught with dmt? Whether he sold root bark is hardly the fact in question - we know this is true, but we should also realize it doesn't preclude him from having dmt. In fact, his occupation makes it even more likely that he actually had dmt. The article clearly states he was busted with dmt. While I'm inclined to think that MAY mean mhrb, I'm not willing to make the vast ontological leap and assume it does, then jump down people's throats when they demonstrate greater comprehension of the articles I provided, especially when the only thing I can use to substantiate my hunch is totally circumstantial.

Once again... Why is it such a stretch to assume that a guy who was already involved in vending mhrb might decide to just sell dmt? Obviously he's not selling that through his website, but let's not be naive. Mhrb and dmt certainly run in the same circles.


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: scienceguy]
    #16137835 - 04/25/12 12:31 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

I dont care if your selling drugs for profit that much dmt (a total of 120 kgs) in powder form is redonkulous :yesnod:


a single gram is a lot but :shrug:

I dont think a business owner would have all that on hand, the mhrb for sure but ready to go spice  :mindblown:


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Re: Large mimosa hostilis bust [Re: 13shrooms]
    #16137933 - 04/25/12 01:02 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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