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shroom grow help
#16104882 - 04/18/12 01:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I started a batch two weeks and a half ago.. mycelium srarted to grow on top of the 3cc jars.. is that good. I've inoculated 12 jars 2 of them 2cc 2 other 3cc the rest got 1.5cc. But they are all growing at the same rate other than 1 of the 2cc jars.. they are in my closet coverd with a black trash bag and in a igloo container with a hole for air exchange on top. I've got pics on my profile of the jars. Its also at a 70-75 degree tempature at all times. Any advice.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16104892 - 04/18/12 01:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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take them out of the trash bag, myc benefits from a light schedule in all stages...just indirect light during colonization, just put them in an upper closet shelf or something
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: mushmagic]
#16105862 - 04/18/12 09:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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makes sense Ok will do.. and about the mycelium growing over the vermiculite u think chance of failure could happen.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16105894 - 04/18/12 09:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pf tek? I'd throw micro pore tape over the holes if myc is growing on top. It might help, and won't hurt.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16105904 - 04/18/12 09:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea pf tek.. in goin to do that.. second time trying but hopefully it will come out better this time.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16106215 - 04/18/12 11:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also i used regular mouth jars 1/2 pint. You guys think i would have a problem when im taking them out?
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16106639 - 04/18/12 01:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also i used regular mouth jars 1/2 pint. You guys think i would have a problem when im taking them out?
Yeah you'll definitely have a fun time getting the cakes out. You'll either have to crumble up the cakes and case them, which won't really hurt much. It will just take a little longer, for the mycelium will have to spend some energy healing itself.
You could also just say "fuck it" and just break the jar open like a perverbial piggy bank haha.
Just for future reference use shoulderless wide mouth 1/2 pint jars. They really do the trick as far as the PF tek goes because you can just plop the cakes right out.
Good luck! Hope I helped.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: jcalk]
#16106750 - 04/18/12 01:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You knw that was my first tought when i figured out oh shyt not tamperd.. but ay fuck it. And yea you did help any extra thought is useful.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16106822 - 04/18/12 02:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You think that might mess up the cake just a thought
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16107104 - 04/18/12 03:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You think that might mess up the cake
Well, it depends on what you decide to do. Crumbling and casing it will render the cake, well, not so cakey.
Breaking the glass won't hurt anything if you do it carefully. It may bruise the cake, but you should be more worried about cutting yourself.
Just research on the topic some. I'll be watching!
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: jcalk]
#16107190 - 04/18/12 03:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to use tall 1/2 pints and never had a problem getting them out. Just put a plastic bowl on counter, and gently slam the open end of jar onto it. Cake will come out, and verm will fall into bowl.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16107284 - 04/18/12 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ima try and and see what the out come is.. got proboly one week left.ill keep ya posted
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16107319 - 04/18/12 04:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to use tall 1/2 pints and never had a problem getting them out. Just put a plastic bowl on counter, and gently slam the open end of jar onto it. Cake will come out, and verm will fall into bowl.
...Which is the way it's suppose to be done, but OP didn't get shoulderless jars, and consequently will not be able to just pop the cake out.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: jcalk]
#16107328 - 04/18/12 04:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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jcalk said:
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I used to use tall 1/2 pints and never had a problem getting them out. Just put a plastic bowl on counter, and gently slam the open end of jar onto it. Cake will come out, and verm will fall into bowl.
...Which is the way it's suppose to be done, but OP didn't get shoulderless jars, and consequently will not be able to just pop the cake out.
Oh my bad. I didn't have that info. Sorry.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16107374 - 04/18/12 04:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's all good! Only good vibes here, man!
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: jcalk]
#16109850 - 04/19/12 01:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im geting close to birthing. And i was thinking in my terrerium. Im gona use a igloo container with drill holes and damp perlite then after my flushes are done im gona take the pattys outside and re flush outside by using cow dung and straw in a 6"hole.. you guys think this would work. And what do everyone think about the terrerium. Think its enough humidity with the perlite.. and any good way to keep the tempature in a leveled tempature inside..
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16110447 - 04/19/12 06:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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From what I've researched a sterilite container is optimal if you are looking into making a SGFC, but I see no reason why the igloo container wouldn't work right. As far as the outside flush goes there is bound to be a post somewhere on the forum answering your question. Try the search engine. You'd be surprised at the amount of people who have the same questions as you.
Just be sure not to bump a dead thread...
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16110458 - 04/19/12 07:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silent165 said: You think that might mess up the cake just a thought
Are the jars made by Bell, by any chance?
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No its ball
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16110513 - 04/19/12 07:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol thats what i meant actually.
I have the same kind.
All my cakes slid off easily without issue except the ones with long invitro shrooms. Even those where not hard to remove. just had to manuevere them out, sort of
I think you'll be fine.
I just wanted to add that lol
They dont look tapered or whatever but you notice they are upon close inspection
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Perhaps you could post a pic of the jars?
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: jcalk]
#16113563 - 04/19/12 08:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Check on my profile i have pics their of the jars. And hopefully zullu we want have to break the jars.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16113582 - 04/19/12 09:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I didn't see any pictures...
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: jcalk]
#16113608 - 04/19/12 09:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16113655 - 04/19/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are the jars I used when I started. They'll be just fine. They have a slight taper. test that idea by setting them on a shelf and sliding it tight to the wall.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16113728 - 04/19/12 09:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are the ones I was talking about
Why do you have foil on top of the lids?
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Will do.. the foil is for airborn contams. The lids have four holes on top. And also mycelium is growing on top of the vermiculite layer.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16113789 - 04/19/12 09:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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People advise to remove the foil from on top of the lid after inoculation because it hinders GE and consequently slows colonization
The dry verm layers purpose to keep contamination at bay
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or are you thinking the dry verm is inefffective because its getting colonized as well?
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The reason the dry verm is being colonized is because of the foil being on the lid. It creates condensation in your dry verm layer and mycelium wants to grow on it.
IME if your dry verm layer gets colonized you end up with potential bacterial contams. You need to take that foil off asap if you have a lid with 4 holes on it.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
#16113942 - 04/19/12 10:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just took them off..good to knw for future projects. I will keep posting in a week or two and let you knw how it turned out. I've got malabar and malaysian cubensis so hopefully it will flourish.and i dnt think its contaminated at all. Looks nomal.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16113976 - 04/19/12 10:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you cover your holes with micro pore tape ?
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16113992 - 04/19/12 10:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Uhm no
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16114006 - 04/19/12 10:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You don't need micropore tape when you have a dry vermiculite barrier. Now that it's wet though it's not a bad idea but still not necessary.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16114018 - 04/19/12 10:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would have done that... you have myc trying to colonize an unprotected substrate. Maybe you'll be fine. But pore tape is cheap bro. Could save your jar, which could produce a 1/4 oz dry.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16114043 - 04/19/12 10:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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9 are 90% colonized while 2 are at about 80-85% colonized and one is like 50% not sure y thats the one u see on the post pictures.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16114060 - 04/19/12 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are the others as wet as the one at 50%? Contaminates could be what's slowing it down since you let them get moisture in the dry verm layer.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
#16114096 - 04/19/12 10:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No not at all just the 50. And one of the 90
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
#16114099 - 04/19/12 10:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive never put foil on top of my lids while colonizing and ive had mycelium growing on the dry verm layer on several jars
And I searched the forum and found that this is pretty common.
I dont think foil on top of the lids is what causes it
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16114107 - 04/19/12 10:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll post all the jars
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16114112 - 04/19/12 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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With the dry verm layer 1/4 inch or more, you dont need foil or tape, just your standard tops with holes punched in it.
I have a bunch of different experiments going with tons of the the green mean monster floating around.(I know it is in the air I have a mini mono 1/4 covered with it still pumping mushies though) I noc up jars in open air, and have regular drinking glasses 95% colonized with no contams, with only dry verm on top, no foil(was just a test, I see all these post about the fear of contams and wanted to test what would happen)While I dont recomend you do open jars, your are pretty safe with jar tops with holes punched in em.
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I lose like 1-4 jars outta around 50 so contams do fuk ya up, but not so much where i'm at. Maybe it is my temps, maybe i'm lucky, or maybe some people just shouldnt fuk with their own mind.....
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Zulu The Most High said: Ive never put foil on top of my lids while colonizing and ive had mycelium growing on the dry verm layer on several jars
And I searched the forum and found that this is pretty common.
I dont think foil on top of the lids is what causes it
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RogerRabbit said: I'd suggest removing the foil. It serves to prevent water from dripping into your jars from the lid of the pc or kettle. After sterilization, leaving the foil on can lead to damp filters, thus an increased risk of contamination. Whether you use tyvek, polyfill, a verm layer, etc., you want it to remain always dry. RR
Of course it does, it's trapping in all of the condensation from the moist substrate. Other things can cause it though, water splashing up the sides of your jars during sterilization. Having your jar bands too loose or loose foil during sterilization can cause this as well.
If it were a dry vermiculite layer the odds of colonization in it goes down severely as the mycelium has no desire to grow on it. A dry verm layer rarely ever gets colonized like a wet verm layer will.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: lokendoch]
#16114127 - 04/19/12 10:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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"I am you and what i see is me, do I take you by the hand and lead you across this land and help me understand the best I can? "
Echoes.... nice. Everything is green and submarine...
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16114138 - 04/19/12 10:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry for any thread-jacking here but Pink Floyd is such an amazing band especially that song. Great music for great times.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16114143 - 04/19/12 10:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You peeps keep saying he doesn't need tape cuz the verm is his filter.... The myc has penetrated his filter. Seems to me you'd want to cover the roads that contams would travel to colonizing myc at this point.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
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VaeVictum said: Sorry for any thread-jacking here but Pink Floyd is such an amazing band especially that song. Great music for great times.

man, meddle kicks arse.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
#16114170 - 04/19/12 10:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
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man, meddle kicks arse.
Saucerful of secrets is one of my favorites.
Also as far as the micropore tape goes yes he probably really should rush out and grab some micropore tape for those bad boys. Personally though I wouldn't be freaking out as much since I've had it happen several times, usually the damage is already done IMO and whatever happens happens. I usually end up with a bacterial contam when my verm layer gets moist. If you want to try and prevent any further damage though the micropore tape is a great idea.
Personally I'd be starting some jars in case something happens to those few jars. The 90% ones probably don't need micropore tape at this point, they're healthy and should be finishing up real soon.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
#16114190 - 04/19/12 10:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are those pins in some of the jars or vermiculite that's fallen down the edges?
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16114200 - 04/19/12 11:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Myc is very resistant to contams, if it is eating his dry verm,(or more than likely just working it's way through it so it can reproduce) he has no problems. Birht the jars, scrape the dry verm and the myc of the top = to the amount of dry verm you put on and dunk then roll.
zzzzzzzz 3 replies while i was typing lol
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
#16114212 - 04/19/12 11:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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VaeVictum said:
Personally though I wouldn't be freaking out as much since I've had it happen several times, usually the damage is already done IMO and whatever happens happens.
I totally agree with this statement. It's just that I always have micro pore tape on hand for this hobby, and since his filter has been breached, I don't see any other last ditch method available to save him if there's a chance at all that he'll get contams.
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: lokendoch]
#16114215 - 04/19/12 11:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just vermiculite
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: VaeVictum]
#16114281 - 04/19/12 11:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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VaeVictum said:
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Zulu The Most High said: Ive never put foil on top of my lids while colonizing and ive had mycelium growing on the dry verm layer on several jars
And I searched the forum and found that this is pretty common.
I dont think foil on top of the lids is what causes it
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RogerRabbit said: I'd suggest removing the foil. It serves to prevent water from dripping into your jars from the lid of the pc or kettle. After sterilization, leaving the foil on can lead to damp filters, thus an increased risk of contamination. Whether you use tyvek, polyfill, a verm layer, etc., you want it to remain always dry. RR
Of course it does, it's trapping in all of the condensation from the moist substrate. Other things can cause it though, water splashing up the sides of your jars during sterilization. Having your jar bands too loose or loose foil during sterilization can cause this as well.
If it were a dry vermiculite layer the odds of colonization in it goes down severely as the mycelium has no desire to grow on it. A dry verm layer rarely ever gets colonized like a wet verm layer will.
I wasnt arguing the foil causing the dry verm to get wet.
I was saying, from what ive read, its pretty common for dry verm layers to get colonized even without FOIL on top of the lids. thats all i was saying.
lol wtf?
I dont speak on things i dont know bro.
but thanks for the extra info lol
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Man you just gotta love shroomery!
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: jcalk]
#16116413 - 04/20/12 02:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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We do
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Lifted1]
#16128340 - 04/23/12 12:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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so i added a extra vermiculite layer two days ago so hopefully no contams so far so good but before i did that i baked que ver..
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Re: shroom grow help [Re: Silent165]
#16186654 - 05/05/12 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well turns out that everything came out fine.. i also removed the foil and added pore tape on My other jars inoculated with ban nathons.. well ill keep posting new pics every other day to share.
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