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nnn-yan
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UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis
#16093824 - 04/15/12 02:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have been curious into doing research with Ultraviolet light(315-400nm)and Psilocybin Cubensis. i have read that these mushrooms are photosensitive to light between 5000K-7000K favoring the blue and violet spectrum of light for fruiting and pinhead formation. My question is in regards to how Psilocybin Cubensis respond to non visible light. is this a light that could be left on 24hrs without throwing off natures course in development of the fruitbodies and could it boost the growth because of receiveing UV energy, without visible light? or just maybe including UV light with the 12/12 light cycle. with these statments in mind I'm not subsituting "natural light" (from a bulb 12hr on/ 12hr off)
Thoughts? thanks
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: nnn-yan]
#16093942 - 04/15/12 03:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not aware of any studies with P cubensis, but other species have been shown to produce higher vitamin D when exposed to UV.
By the way, psilocybin is an English word referring to an active alkaloid, not the name of the mushroom. The correct name for the genus is Psilocybe, a Latin term. Psilocybe cubensis. RR
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16094001 - 04/15/12 03:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha PSILOCYBE thats what I ment thanks for the correction. well i guess ill just have to do my own study and record the results for shroomery. thanks RR
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: nnn-yan]
#17950973 - 03/13/13 08:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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We're waiting
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: stinkbuttdog]
#17973255 - 03/18/13 09:45 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Phil.
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: PsilyPhily]
#17974625 - 03/18/13 03:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Butt.
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: stinkbuttdog]
#17986070 - 03/20/13 06:49 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm curious
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: odbsmydog]
#17986219 - 03/20/13 07:13 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh were all very curious but op hasn't had a word to say in 10 month's.
Through my own experiments (6 MS cakes from same syringe, 3 under u.v black light 300-400nm at 4W as well as normal ambient light, 3 just ambient light.) Those under u.v had a 10-20% increase in knot formation..
But that's basically speculation due to MS and only 6 cakes tested..
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: PsilyPhily]
#17986259 - 03/20/13 07:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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It just so happens that I have some UVB type reptile lights laying around. I could do an experiment, but I'm not really set up for that atm.
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: stinkbuttdog]
#17986327 - 03/20/13 07:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cool but be careful with high wattage and temp's.
U.v is bad for myc, I did it with a forged note checker so it was really dim and low power.. just 4 watts..
Reptile lights get super hot..
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: PsilyPhily]
#18019734 - 03/27/13 04:03 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK OK Ladies and Gentlemen! I have been expirmenting with UltraViolet and i have been using UltraViolet for about 10 months now and have notice a few boosts. I have 8 monotubs here and they were all done identically, with the same isolate gene, so theoritcally they would all grow the same give the same enivorment. all tubs are at 75 degrees, but recieving differnet types and amounts of UV light. The far 3 tubs revieved the most UV and are doing the best. Ive noticed with UV growing.. 1. there are more pins at a faster rate 2. Fruiting occurs faster (due to pins faster)
My hope is with this next harvest to beable to compare overall yield with UltraViolet. I will be taking more and better pictures when the tubs enter the fruiting stage by the end of this weekend. BUT! the pictures will be uploaded here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17791378
My Lab. the bottom 3 tubs recieve mostly just 6500K full spectrum. 2 tubs above them have a low light UV light. the far 3 tubs have high light UV light (these 3 have the best pins)
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: nnn-yan]
#18019809 - 03/27/13 04:21 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would be a better test if the tubs/lids were clear.
To me it seems as if the UV light is being filtered by the blue plastic.
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: PussyFart]
#18020183 - 03/27/13 05:33 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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In the case of semi-transparent items it's filtering out non-blue light and scattering some of the blue. While it's probably absorbing some UV, even clear plastic does that.
Interesting. I've augmented my lighting with blue florescents which clearly put out a bit of UV. I've noticed lite stem tanning in the blue light.
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: PussyFart]
#18021397 - 03/27/13 10:18 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said: It would be a better test if the tubs/lids were clear.
To me it seems as if the UV light is being filtered by the blue plastic.
The tubs aren't blue. It only looks that way when more than 2 dimensions of the tubs planes over lap. If looking directly through the top or just one side the plastic is very clear. Not even frosted. Sorry if the pictures don't show it well. But trust me they are clear. I only want the best for my children. Plus come on you didn't give me enough credit to think that if they weren't clear the expiriment would not work. Haha but the UV does really make the tubs look bluer than they are.
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Re: UltraViolet photosensitivity Psilocybin Cubensis [Re: nnn-yan]
#18023551 - 03/28/13 11:58 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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This has piqued my interest, I did a little bit of reading, there are a few studies that I found immediately to do with fungal photoreceptors in a number of species, although I couldn't see any teleomorphic basidiomycotans among them, which is pretty interesting, I guess, but more than likely an artefact of my lazy searching.
One of the older chaps will more likely know the molecular phylogeny of these guys a lot better, but I would say that its possible that they might share a few proteins or similar proteins with ascomycotans, potentially ones to do with photoreception. (did I make a booboo, educate me if I have)
Some of the stuff goes a little bit beyond me, the one that I am looking at right now claims that some filamentous fungi might possess a common 6-4 photolyase(which it says is a photoreceptor/reactor that repairs DNA and regulates gene expression with UV spectrum light) an antecendent of cryptochrome, long story short, they disrupt the locus responsible for coding it and the organism responded negatively to it(as far as I can tell, I am really tired, but wanted to chime in).
All of this sounds great, as far as I know cryptochrome has a bioregulatory role in other eukaryotes, so it seems possible that its ancestor or a similar pigment could do the same in fungi. I wonder if the difference in UV light effects the concentrations of the photoreceptors in the tissues as well, might be a way to identify them someday.
This may make no sense tomorrow, and if so I apologise for it, im glad to see you followed through with it ^^.
The paper I was talking about is(sorry for the bad referencing, id link you but it goes through a proxy im associated with =3); (PHL1 of Cercospora zeae-maydis encodes a member of the photolyase/cryptochrome family involved in UV protection and fungal development by Bluhm, B.H and Dunkle, L.D, 2008, Fungal Genetics and Biology)
On an unrelated note, are there pigments or proteins associated with colouration in basidiocarps like P. cubensis, I don't think they would be involved in photoreception, but you never know.
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Edited by Nobitte (03/28/13 12:11 PM)
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