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Are we getting somewhere with all of this?
    #1608967 - 06/04/03 08:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1609165 - 06/04/03 09:51 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for mentioning my name, but I am far from an expert at identification. I would be happy to offer any of my photographs for an online ID guide.

Your dream is a good one. Perhaps we have already met some of the goals you have set. There is grace and eloquence in remaining unadvertized, let those who seek the knowledge find us through their own efforts.

The personna of this site is more than just Psilocybe's, we have people asking questions about methamphetamines, about drinking cough syrup, about who is the ugliest...we are far from a righteous site. To get the collaboration of professionals, we need to act like professionals in our interactions. Recently a new user said, "I think the place is great, but often people lack manners and offer terrible advice."

We still have a long way to go to get to where you are seeing.

I remember a while back (years ago) after I ingested some LSD I had visions of grandeur. I thought it would be a good idea to go down to the courthouse with a sign that said something like, "Legalize LSD". I thought this because the experience I had was so powerful that I wanted everyone to experience it. My ideas are dynamic, I think one way one day, and change my mind another day. Perhaps I will be more agreeable tomorrow.

I do like your dream though...it's one I share with you (minus the idea of introducing any religion into our matter).

Joshua


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Joshua]
    #1609354 - 06/04/03 10:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1611494 - 06/05/03 02:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well good luck.
But it sounds a little idealistic. I will never only come to the shroomery, it is only one of many sites i visit, but i would like to see the linking of mushrooms/drug information sites, as that would greatly increase the database and resources one has access to.

But every site needs sponsors, and sponsors compete in business, so this leads to animosity between sites and the fragmentation of our potential collected works. But unfortunatley this is required to have site like these and all the others.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1611537 - 06/05/03 03:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I know I?m in danger of sounding like an asshole, but what happened with your other projects?

If We?re Going to Be Taken Somewhat Seriously
The Motaman Monthly One-on-One
Shroomery Online Books / Articles

Why don?t you concentrate on one thing, instead of bringing up new ideas every other week, that never come to an end?


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Anno]
    #1611615 - 06/05/03 03:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

I know I?m in danger of sounding like an asshole, but what happened with your other projects?

If We?re Going to Be Taken Somewhat Seriously
The Motaman Monthly One-on-One
Shroomery Online Books / Articles

Why don?t you concentrate on one thing, instead of bringing up new ideas  every other week, that never come to an end?   



He thinks from the left side of his brain rather than his right side.
People like this always start stuff and never finnish.  :wink:
I used to work for someone like this and it drove me nutz. 


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Roadkill]
    #1611773 - 06/05/03 03:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm ambi-brainlobe-ous, i can think with both sides =).


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Roadkill]
    #1613488 - 06/06/03 01:42 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1613525 - 06/06/03 02:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The question stays:
"Why don?t you concentrate on one thing, instead of bringing up new ideas every other week, that never come to an end? "


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Anno]
    #1613562 - 06/06/03 02:23 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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    #1614253 - 06/06/03 11:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1614345 - 06/06/03 12:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i'll help you out... especially on the legalization issue.... pm me or we can talk it out here.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1614347 - 06/06/03 12:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Enter
I'm not sure it would be wise to draw that kind of attention to this site.
I'm not against promoting the legalization of mushrooms, but wouldn't it be wise to do it at a seperate site. For one, the people you want to interview might be more likely to do this from a site other than the Shroomery. This site is a well of knowlege about the cultivation of mushrooms. Your talking about reaching out to politician's and leaders? Why draw that attention on a site that helps so many people. Spores might already be in trouble. I'm sure if we draw a bunch of media and political attention on a site devoted to growing mushrooms this will only worsen. A lot of powerful people won't embrace this cause, and the Shroomery and spores could become a target. If we lose spores, we lose alot.
I'm definatley not against the cause ,but the method when it involves the Shroomery.

This is why I feel that this idea is best suited for it's own site. As always it's just my opinion and other's may disagree.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: chinacat72]
    #1614462 - 06/06/03 01:36 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I agree...

Enter, those actions could be done for the sake of Mr. PF's freedom but not in behalf of The Shroomery .


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: Hermes_br]
    #1614678 - 06/06/03 03:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Damn straight! And isn't the main server still in america? You might want to keep this place as nonchalent as possible.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1614862 - 06/06/03 04:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)


I think it a good idea, but also a bad one. If it was to be implemented, it should be done on another site. I don't want the man busting down the shroomery for going against the grain. I do wish there was something out there that was thow.

You have a lot of determination, and that's a great thing to have, and your cause is a good one. I hope you can do something to this effect, if the Shroomery helps out or not. Mushrooms need to be legal imo.

The stubborn society of the world needs to change. What better time for change than now?

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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: chinacat72]
    #1615062 - 06/06/03 05:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So there are a few people concerned over legal implications if we were to help spearhead a legalization movement.

I can't say I understand why people would take this view. We are already exercising our freedom of speech by hosting the vast amount of information contained here - how could we draw negative attention from promoting legalization? It is essentially putting our money where our mouth is.

Certainly legalization would benefit many of the members here as well as society at large, so why not take the step to fight for a cause we embrace?

I'd like to hear more about this, especially if there are any individuals here with a backround in law, as I cannot forsee any bad coming from a project such as this.

I'd also like to note that if we do create a developed section on this matter, we could always host the site on our server and merely register a new domain name to front the appearance of a seperate organization if you really think that would better our chances.


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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: geokills]
    #1615184 - 06/06/03 06:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm thinking about potential negative backlash for this site and the legality of spores.
I'm definately not against the cause, but think we should consider the best possible offensive.
My concern is the risk of losing what we have. What do we have- legal spores and a website that offers mountains of valuable info on growing them. I wonder how many new people get to experiance psilocybin each year because of this website and the fact they can still get spores.
Again i'm not against the cause, but wonder about the backlash. Puting this site in the legal limelight could be very bad. A seperate site or identity seams so much betterIMO. If we start getting media and goverment attention it would be possible for some politicians to see this site and go on a crusade to get rid of spores which would get rid of our sponsers and the psilocybin experiance for some. :crazy:

I feel the war on drugs has to be fought with strategy. Is it the best strategy to bring the Shroomery into the limelight?I'm not saying it definatly is or isn't, im just saying we need to look at this from every angle.
Do whe have anybody we can contact that has the legal expertise to say what risk we run by combining this project to the shroomery?
Again i'm totally for the legalization of mushrooms(or any drug), but feel we need to tread cautouslly so when we take a step forward we don't get shoved back two.
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Re: Are we getting somewhere with all of this? [Re: chinacat72]
    #1615912 - 06/07/03 01:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)


I feel the same.


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