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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15984696 - 03/23/12 06:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

looking good :mushroom2:


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15986587 - 03/23/12 04:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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you could also afford to take the tin foil off your jars as long as your dry verm layer is there,helps with GE and speedy colonization




do this without a doubt.

the tinfoil is not supposed to be left on, regardless of what anyone else has ever said...

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15987223 - 03/23/12 07:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, so I'll remove the foil & re-inoc the 3 jars with no growth. I cased with Perlite instead of Verm (newbie mistake) but everything seems sound. About the 3 no-grows...what if they are lacking in  moisture? Can I remedy that at this stage? Sounds risky. I followed the PFTek to a tee. Ran out of medium verm halfway thru & finished off with fine. Would that require more water, being finer?

Thanks for everyone's input. :thumbup:

Edit: Just ran a check & only 2 jars now show no-gro :smirk: So I'll re-inoc those 2. I think my inoc tek needs upgrading. Noticed that mostly 1-2 sometimes 3 of my inoc ports took. Any suggestions...?


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15987374 - 03/23/12 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If it has been just a week since inoculation I'd leave those two just like they are. Maybe you shot them up with less spore solution so they take longer. Just wait. Re-inoculating is just not a good method.

Think I have lost track of your growing activities ^^.

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15989281 - 03/24/12 10:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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....Think I have lost track of your growing activities ^^.




Not much of a track record since this is my 1st time. Initial panic was 'screwing up' by casing with dry Perlite instead of Verm but as you can see by pics all's well except for the 2/11 jars showing no colonization so far. So all's well to the point that I'm considering starting another batch while this one runs its course. On 2nd thoughts I'll probably wait & observe the fruiting process first. But this is FUN, man !





Note Perlite casing. Does anyone know if it wicks more moisture than Verm...?


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15989303 - 03/24/12 10:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nice pics.
In the pic below, the right one, that looks like myc. the left one I'm not too sure, could be the light, could be a little less rhizomorphic. :shrug:

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15989482 - 03/24/12 11:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it almost certainly wicks less than vermiculite. Verm has a really porus surface and all of the tiny holes draw moisture in through capallary action, less porus, less water retention. In the sceme of pf tek, it's not even a noticable amount either way.

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15989610 - 03/24/12 11:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Nice pics.
In the pic below, the right one, that looks like myc. the left one I'm not too sure, could be the light, could be a little less rhizomorphic. :shrug:




I'll keep an eye on it. Does seem a little denser but there's no unwanted odors yet.


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #16010426 - 03/28/12 07:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For the record all's well. Here's today's pics.





Now this one does seem dense & slow. Maybe too dry...? If that is the case what's the cure?



A question for the pros. So what is the "BEST" fruiting chamber? I've read up on several & the Shotgun seems like the popular choice. But that thing is peppered with holes & we have 5% humidity here. Won't that suck the humidity out? I'm thinking a closed pod with air strips & heater or something along that line. But I'll accept whatever advise you guys have got to give. Thanks :thumbup:


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #16010663 - 03/28/12 08:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

starting to look real nice,congrats!!
if you think your jars are just crawling along or stalling,take a fine point sharpie and outline the current growth in the jar or jars in question,then give it a week and check on the rate of growth.

if you can fruit with a SGFC in a relatively small room a good humidifier would help you keep the RH more like normal,fruiting around 75 degrees would be fine,since you mentioned a heater for the tub.

any other thoughts plp?


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #16044858 - 04/04/12 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks C4C ! Getting close, folks ! Some jars fully covered & re-inocs catching up so I'll need to build the FC soon.





Invested in the "Let's Grow Mushrooms" DVD set. I'll check it out again but what's with drilling the *bottom* of the chamber full of holes? What help is that if its sitting on a tray to catch any leakage? Not sure that I'm in agreement but then I'm the nOOb around here. Still concerned about fluctuating temps & low humidity. I'm burning pellet stove in my utility room which further dries air out. I'm thinking I still need to apply heat to the FC. Been looking at Poorman's Pod & wonder if this would work better under these conditions? But I am definitely open to professional advice so please straighten me out here, folks. I'll get moving on the FC this weekend.

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #16044930 - 04/04/12 07:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks C4C ! Getting close, folks ! Some jars fully covered & re-inocs catching up so I'll need to build the FC soon.





Invested in the "Let's Grow Mushrooms" DVD set. I'll check it out again but what's with drilling the *bottom* of the chamber full of holes? What help is that if its sitting on a tray to catch any leakage?





Put something (little blocks of wood, NES cartridges, etc) under the chamber to lift it off the tray.  That way air can enter via the bottom of the chamber.  More air going thru the perlite leads to more humidity in the chamber. 

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: MettaNaut]
    #16081646 - 04/12/12 06:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For the record, dunked 5 of my 11 cakes that were going in vitro last night & also knocked a Shotgun together. Need to finish it off now then I'll set the cakes in place. A 106 Qt/100l Sterilite. That's a lot of holes, man. Hope this box isn't too big. Didn't read deep enough to see if there was a preferred size for the SG. Will report back later.


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #16081660 - 04/12/12 06:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The only thing you need to worry about with a bigger SGFC is making sure you have enough perlite. At the same time you don't need a 4 foot long SGFC for 10 cakes lol. It's all about a balance and how many cakes you intend to put in it.

Good call on waiting for invitro pins before dunking btw, I always recommend this to people new to the PF TEK.

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: VaeVictum]
    #16081770 - 04/12/12 06:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cant wait to see how things turn out for ya! :goodluck:


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: VaeVictum]
    #16082597 - 04/12/12 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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....At the same time you don't need a 4 foot long SGFC for 10 cakes lol. ....

:kenthumbup:




Ha ! I got big plans, my man. Got about 4" perlite in it.

Check it out. Rest of my cakes still incubating as you can see.



100l Shotgun.





Mmmmm. Maybe a smaller one would've been more manageable. Took half a sack of perlite.:laugh:


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #16103838 - 04/17/12 08:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Kinda messed up my prgress reports a bit here by spreading them between 2 threads. Didn't do a diary so this is it. At any rate, here's the latest. Birthed these in vitros around 21h30 on 04/12 after a 18-20 hr soak. So far 3 cakes are fruiting.



Two on right were birthed last night after about an 18 hr soak.



Good spray in morning then another about 11 hrs later after work. In the evening I spray the bejeezuz out of that box 4-5 times, 1/2 a bottle at a time keeps perlite soaked as well. RH at 80% after sitting for the day. Temp about 65-68F from oil heater. Impressed with SG...as everyone warned I'd be.

So how's my progress after 4 days ? Not a whole bunch but they're there.


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #16103884 - 04/17/12 08:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

aww yeah boi!!:thumbup: their coming for sure,all in do time my friend. another few flushes down the road and you will have enough to take you to places of wonder and enlightenment :mindblown:


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #16104169 - 04/17/12 09:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There is another question I was meaning to ask. What about lighting? I had this arrangement with 2 fluorescent tubes rigged this weekend & then removed it because I don't know what damage it might do. It could add a little heat but then it might dry out my shrooms after an 11 hr bake without spray. Not sure what to do here. My chamber is kinda behind a corner so it doesn't get any strong light.



Any pointers...?



PS. I think I might be breaking posting etiquette here by posting this question. Is that right ?

4.  Do not bump your own thread for at least 24 hours.  It's not fair to the other posters to have your thread constantly bumped to the top.  Violators will have their thread deleted.

Seems like that's what this means. Apologies to all if I am & if I am I'll make sure I don't do it again.

Edited by mojoraisin (04/17/12 09:59 PM)

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #16105724 - 04/18/12 08:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nah, you're alright. Bumping your own thread refers to back-to-back posts by you. If someone responds, then you are good to go. I doubt that fluerescent light is going to dry it out too much, they aren't that hot anyway

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