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OfflinestraberyShRoOMCaKe
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Seaweed as a substrate? What would YOU do?
    #1608052 - 06/04/03 03:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I was just wondering that if I went to the beach and got some seaweed, washed out all the salt, dryed it out, ground it up with a coffee grinder and mixed it with some verm, and some with grain and seaweed. Do you think this would be a good substrate. Seaweed naturally has tons of minerals which is needed when growing shrooms. Has anyone tried this before? I think my boyfriend and I are gonna do this soon. Does anyone have anymore suggestions for us before we experiment with this one? Is there anything you would do differently? Thanks everyone. :grin: 


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: straberyShRoOMCaKe]
    #1608083 - 06/04/03 03:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The  straberyShRoOMCaKe Seaweed Tek:wink:  Sorta has a nice sound to it! 
Make sure to let us all know how it goes. 

Peace,
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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: TekNut]
    #1608133 - 06/04/03 04:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yep!! Sure will sweetie. :grin:


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: straberyShRoOMCaKe]
    #1608143 - 06/04/03 04:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

heard of fish food in the cake!!!!


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: TOTALQAOS]
    #1608173 - 06/04/03 04:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No whats the deal with that? I'm talking about fresh seaweed straight from the pacific ocean.


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: straberyShRoOMCaKe]
    #1608194 - 06/04/03 04:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

*ahem!!* --actually I thought of it....call it the KlingonFromUranus Tek...wait, that doesn't sound right :grin: :tongue:

One possible problem I'm afraid of is that the seaweed will become gelatinous and clump together into dense pockets making myc growth impossible in those areas which is why we want to mix some with grainin a couple jars.  I think seaweed has the potential to be an excellent nutritive substrate.  Comments?


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: KlingonFromUranus]
    #1608254 - 06/04/03 04:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

u can by already rinsed and all that from the store


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: MAGICSNOOP]
    #1608271 - 06/04/03 04:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

GET AHOLD OF YOUR-SELF STABERRY (SSSMMMAAAAAAAAAAAACCKK)!!!


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: straberyShRoOMCaKe]
    #1608272 - 06/04/03 04:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It does work, but dried seaweed matter is very miniscule. Think about how many sushi wrappers you'd need to fill a single jar. The amount of effort far outweighed any benefits which were unnoticable.

There are more nutricious substrates available that are easier to obtain.


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: Ainasko]
    #1608336 - 06/04/03 05:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hey TOTALQAOS why are you smacking me? I was serious when I said whats the deal with the fish food. Dont smack me! :confused:


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: Ainasko]
    #1608365 - 06/04/03 05:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sushi wrappers is actually seaweed paper. It's seaweed that has been dried and hammered paper thin. A large chunk of regular wet seaweed like you find at the beach can be harvested and soaked and dried to make quite a few lbs of dried material which would be more than enough for most people even if you were doing it in bulk. Seaweed is plentiful, free, and doesn't disappear when you dry it the way pot or mushrooms do. The quantity is not a problem at all. I imagine that a 3 gallon sized chunk will be plenty for our purposes, I'm just wondering if the stuff will work as a substrate or not.


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: KlingonFromUranus]
    #1608375 - 06/04/03 05:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Is there a tek that calls for fish food as an ingredient? What about fish emulsion?


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: KlingonFromUranus]
    #1608499 - 06/04/03 05:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i would think that the extremely high level of sodium/salt would make it difficult to grow with.


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: chineseguy]
    #1608547 - 06/04/03 06:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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i would think that the extremely high level of sodium/salt would make it difficult to grow with.




For which? fish food, emulsion, or seaweed? Seaweed would be soaked and drained of all the salt. Salt is only on outside, not actually in the plant itself.


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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: KlingonFromUranus]
    #1608671 - 06/04/03 06:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Also, take into account that seaweed is high in sodium and a high concentration of fatty cellulose. Sodium and oils can deter growth.

The process we used to remove the cellulose involved a centrifuge. Further baths were needed to remove the salts.

Again, the inconveniences far outweighed the benefits. A bag of cow poop is still cheap.



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Re: Seaweed as a substrate. [Re: Ainasko]
    #1611733 - 06/05/03 03:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thanx Ainasko for your input and we will let you all know how it goes.  :grin:
I'm just wondering if there is anyone else out there that has any helpful suggestions. Or if they were to do this how would they go about it. Any and all input would be helpful... :grin:


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