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S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!!
    #1607556 - 06/04/03 12:24 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

I dunked one of my new born popcorn cakes and it feel apart, the water turned milky white. Why????
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
What the hell, nothing seems to go as planed!!! :mad:

Can someone please help me?? 


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1607582 - 06/04/03 12:36 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Well... how long after the surface was completely colonized did you let it incubate for? You must give it time to colonize the middle of the cake as well.


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: Rustmonger]
    #1607591 - 06/04/03 12:40 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

it colonized, It was white inside too!! man 35 days colonizing!! shit!! its a good job i've dunked 3 out of 9!!!


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1607629 - 06/04/03 12:54 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

god hates you???


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: OOKLA]
    #1607636 - 06/04/03 12:57 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

lol, That must be it thanks man!!!


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1607647 - 06/04/03 01:03 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

thats odd...cakes in my experience are really solid


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1607659 - 06/04/03 01:07 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

If you're going the cake route, the brown rice flour/vermiculite combo holds together better. Large grains like popcorn aren't meant for cakes.

If I were you, I'd CASE all this colonized popcorn. You'll most likely get a better yield anyway.


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    #1607660 - 06/04/03 01:07 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

This really sucks!!  :mad: 


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1607673 - 06/04/03 01:10 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Did you dump the water out yet? If you didn't and you can somehow keep the water steril you might be able to get the mycelcium to spawn. Then you can suck it up in a syringe and use the spawn to innoculate more jars.


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1607675 - 06/04/03 01:11 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Ive dunked cakes many many times ive not once seen one fall a part. You gotta be pretty mean to em for them to break open. Brown rice verm cakes atleast.

Only cakes ive had just flat our crumble on me where ones where the middle was infected.

If the substrate is still useablle. Strain it out and make a cainsg out of it.


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: baraka]
    #1607692 - 06/04/03 01:18 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

it was popcorn!!! and shit i disposed the water!!  this is not my day!!!  :mad:
the cakes in the backyard.   


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1607853 - 06/04/03 02:13 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

well instead of wasting it just draw up a syringe of the milky water and there u go u got ur self more juice to do many more it aint that much of a loss.


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: MAGICSNOOP]
    #1607900 - 06/04/03 02:36 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

too late for in "instead of" now.... vas dumped it. :frown:


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: m0rb]
    #1607907 - 06/04/03 02:40 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

i doubt mushrooms will fruit on a cake made of just popcorrn. its been used for casing sucessfully, never heard of fuiting off a 'cake' of it


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: Eightball]
    #1607989 - 06/04/03 03:10 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

morb im telling him that because he thinks he wasted it and he said the milky water i was letting him that he can draw syringes up of the milky water to be able to inoclate more jars with out waiting for the spores to germ. the cake it self is probly lost as a cake but there are several things he can do with the soaked cake. he may not be happy about losing the cake it self but it aint a total waste!


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: MAGICSNOOP]
    #1608023 - 06/04/03 03:25 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

it was popcorn!!! and shit i disposed the water!! this is not my day!!! 
the cakes in the backyard.





Total waste.  :frown:

(Taps playing in the background)

Sorry man,  best of luck with the other cakes though!

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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: TekNut]
    #1610357 - 06/05/03 04:45 AM (14 years, 25 days ago)

After thinking about what happened last night I came up with a conclusion. It is not safe to dump popcorn at birth because of the shape of the kernels; the mycelium network stretches from kernel to kernel and upon watering (DUNKING) it falls back, releasing its grip.

Popcorn hasn't got the same consistency as PF cake, forming a solid bond. Personally I believe its not as sturdy. Correct me if I'm wrong!


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1610383 - 06/05/03 04:56 AM (14 years, 25 days ago)

Since some mycellia only grow in a thin white layer covering it it won?y hold together at all. But case those same kernals in straw , coco coir/ verm, or what ever and they WILL grow into the substrate.


I?ve noticed that species like Cambodian on the other hand grow into VERY dense white cottony solid mass.





Don?t dunk!! The water your mushies will need will come from the casing material you use.More nutients come from the actual kernal itself.


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Edited by Amanita_Dreamer (06/05/03 05:01 AM)


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: Amanita_Dreamer]
    #1610404 - 06/05/03 05:03 AM (14 years, 25 days ago)

I've studied everything about popcorn and no one mentioned it, till I fucked up, Its just my luck.

Anyhow thanks man.  :grin:

i'm never going to do that again, and I hope no one falls in the same trap! 


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Re: S.O.S help, I fucked up!!! Help Help Help HELP!! [Re: vas]
    #1610808 - 06/05/03 09:38 AM (14 years, 25 days ago)

Popcorn is still great if you use it to spawn poo!  :grin:


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