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BoldAsLove
Pokemon Master


Registered: 03/10/11
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Loc: Kanto Region
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No Enemies
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I try to practice it as often as possible, but I find it very difficult with some people or in some situations. Does anyone here try to practice it? Any advice you can offer me on ways to love everyone (even people whose actions I find repulsive) more?
-------------------- DISCLAIMER: None of the ideas expressed above are actually mine. They are told to me by Luthor and Ferdinand , the five inch tall space aliens who live under my desk. In return for these ideas, I have given them permission to eat any dust bunnies they may find under there.
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deCypher



Registered: 02/10/08
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Keeping a life free of enemies is easy if you promptly kill any that arise.
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DisoRDeR
motional



Registered: 08/29/02
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Loc: nonsensistan
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Rather than love everyone, I sometimes operate from a perspective which includes the following realizations:
Humans are animals.
Animals are trained.
All effects appear to have been caused.
Suffering sucks.
We'll all be dead soon.
and, ideally...
I have no stake in the outcome [of this interaction].
Empathy and amusement seem to flow from this sort of perspective. The empathy can be overwhelming, in which case you may feel a strong desire to get the fuck away from all the humans for a while.
If you happen to have the time and space necessary to do so, you could also try tracing the causal web back a ways within yourself. Try to get a peek at the physical sensation which correlates to the arising of your negative emotions.
For extra fun, try speculating as to the life history of the repulsive creature. Trace it back from this moment to their childhood. Throw in an addiction problem, depression, abusive/neglectful parenting, threatening school environment, traumatic birth, an accidental, loveless pregnancy, the rape of it's ancestor by barbarians, etc.
For an even more thrilling exercise, try scanning back through your memories to a time when you have taken actions which bothered others, or which you now find repulsive. Now just strive to love yourself and to be internally consistent...
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MistyMystic
Birdbrain


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Conflict drives progress
Always there will be enemy
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DisoRDeR
motional



Registered: 08/29/02
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Loc: nonsensistan
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Quote:
MistyMystic said: Conflict drives progress
In what direction?
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Cancer-Homo
Explorer
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How can you define an ally without an enemy?
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AIRDOG



Registered: 10/16/99
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Loc: world's shroom capital
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Quote:
deCypher said: Keeping a life free of enemies is easy if you promptly kill any that arise. 
+1
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Chronic7
Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 13,679
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Quote:
BoldAsLove said: I try to practice it as often as possible, but I find it very difficult with some people or in some situations. Does anyone here try to practice it? Any advice you can offer me on ways to love everyone (even people whose actions I find repulsive) more? 
A person can never love everyone, but a person can realize they are the universe, and the universe has a natural love that embraces all of its creations, so in this way you can love absolutely everyone & everything equally.
But a person, a contracted sense of self, with its own personally defined attractions & repulsions, can never ever love everyone, impossible.
My advice would be Love yourself first, and i mean love yourself as the universe, not only as a person
If anything it can be good to cast out the contracted person (ego), out of self respect for the universal presence, out of Love If you want to have 'no enemies' (love everyone) then the person you think you are is your worst enemy
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Edited by Chronic7 (04/09/12 08:52 AM)
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Vahn421
Awakening Moonlighter



Registered: 04/03/12
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I used to care about not having enemies until I realized that it would mean conforming to others' perspective a lot.
Now I instead try to focus on loving as much as I can around me, ass the bitterness just tended to make me bitter.
Sometimes, though, you'll run into an opposing view who wants nothing more than to shove his/her stance down your throat through force. It's times like these I DO add one great line from Eminem into my philosophy: "It's better to kick ass than kiss it."
-V
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery



Registered: 03/15/05
Posts: 95,368
Loc: underbelly
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Quote:
DisoRDeR said: Rather than love everyone, I sometimes operate from a perspective which includes the following realizations:
Humans are animals.
Animals are trained.
All effects appear to have been caused.
Suffering sucks.
We'll all be dead soon.
and, ideally...
I have no stake in the outcome [of this interaction].
Empathy and amusement seem to flow from this sort of perspective. The empathy can be overwhelming, in which case you may feel a strong desire to get the fuck away from all the humans for a while.
If you happen to have the time and space necessary to do so, you could also try tracing the causal web back a ways within yourself. Try to get a peek at the physical sensation which correlates to the arising of your negative emotions.
For extra fun, try speculating as to the life history of the repulsive creature. Trace it back from this moment to their childhood. Throw in an addiction problem, depression, abusive/neglectful parenting, threatening school environment, traumatic birth, an accidental, loveless pregnancy, the rape of it's ancestor by barbarians, etc.
For an even more thrilling exercise, try scanning back through your memories to a time when you have taken actions which bothered others, or which you now find repulsive. Now just strive to love yourself and to be internally consistent...
Absolutely sterling post.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Tantrika
Miss Ann Thrope




Registered: 03/26/12
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No enemies?
Instead of loving everyone, simply release the view that anyone is your enemy. Love may arise to fill the void; however, that does not give reason to attempt forcing it.
Whether someone else views you as his or her enemy is not of your concern.
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Galidor4
Beholder



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Treat your neighbor as yourself. The way I see it, there is no difference between anyone of you and myself, save for one thing. Our body. Something that only lasts what 100 years tops? I treat people exactly how I wanna be treated, I put myself in their shoes and it actually turns out to be a narcissistic existence I'm a little obsessed with making sure everyone else is happy, which the way I look at it is making sure I'm happy. However, what Disorder was talking about is the GREATEST! I find nothing more enjoyable than reading someone, basically grasping why they are the way they are and well.... manipulating their perception, never in a beneficial way but just for the sake of doing it.
I could never hate anyone for doing any harm to me or anyone else because they're only harming themselves.
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