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First grow (Complete)
    #16062829 - 04/08/12 08:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is a co-op grow with another member named Itzjoey :thumbup:
These jars are kept in a closet that stays 72-75F

Jars (18): http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/substrate-jars.html

Inoculation:
4/4/12
3 Koh Samui Super Strain
2 Mexican Dutch King
2 Pink Buffalo
3 B+
2 Dancing Tiger
2 wild mount cotton

4/5/12
4 John Allen



Colonization:
4/7/12 - First signs of growth. This is a pic of the 3 KSSS, they were doing the best.


4/8/12 - Possible black mold on one of the Mount Cotton jars, it was a wild print.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16062947 - 04/08/12 09:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Itzjoey]
    #16063604 - 04/09/12 12:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Any thoughts? This is the first time for both of us so we're pretty excited. :laugh:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16064285 - 04/09/12 07:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well 72-75 is kinda slow for me....u will b waiting for weeks but yea i mean its ur first grow so ur good u dont want the problems that come with contam problems but IME my first grow i hadt  put them in incubation at like 85 and ppl thought i was crazy but i swear it finish in like 9-10days top maybe try 78-80....also another thing i can see that u have a acurite humidity meter in your firstpic...i know this bcuz this is the first one i bought as a noob:tongue:...i wouldnt use them if or when your building a  fruiting chamber like a sgfc or nething for that matter because they wont read correctly in that type of humidity for a long period of time...when i got one it read 85% and then anything above that it read 99% and then when i took it out of the fruiting chamber it read 99% for like 5mins!  I know it def was off...other then that ur good to go this hobby will teach u that a lot of patience pays off...what are you gonna do with your jars after they are 100%?spawn to bulk? Dunk and roll them?

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: bigshack]
    #16064604 - 04/09/12 10:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Incubation is outdated information, that is unless your Room Temp that they sit in is 65 degrees or lower. High temperatures during colonization also gives you a higher risk for contaminates, and often 72-75 degrees or a smidge cooler gives healthier cakes. The Mycelium grows a lot thicker and dense which from my own experience gives some amazing fruits.

To the Original Poster, the White Mount Cotton you speak of. Where did you acquire those spores? Are they of Cubensis Species?


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16065074 - 04/09/12 12:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I know everyone is going to say it was a waste of money, but I already have it so might as well use it: http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/grow-kits.html
I got the Mega Kit, so that's what I have to work with. In the first pic, it's the tub on the bottom.
We're gona dunk and roll when they're at 100% for our first time.
If this works out, then the next grow I want to start doing monotubs only. Like 2 or 3 with each their own strain.
As for the mount cotton print, I got it from a giveaway by Olive, and yes it is a cubensis.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16065276 - 04/09/12 01:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Incubation is outdated information, that is unless your Room Temp that they sit in is 65 degrees or lower. High temperatures during colonization also gives you a higher risk for contaminates, and often 72-75 degrees or a smidge cooler gives healthier cakes. The Mycelium grows a lot thicker and dense which from my own experience gives some amazing fruits.




Where is this information from? Have you ever inoculated a couple of different jars and incubated at different temperatures? If not, you probably shouldn't be spreading this information. Psilocybe Cubensis mycelium grows quicker at higher temperatures up until ~92* at which point it will stall out. That is just a fact. There is multiple comparisons on other sites (I am sure there are some here) that clearly state higher temperatures is equivilent to quicker growth. I know for a fact through my OWN EXPERIENCE, not just what I have read, that Cubensis mycelium will grow faster with a pristine temperature around 82* for spawn jars and 85* for LC.

Also, it is indeed true that risk for contamination is increased when incubating, however the contaminates that would ruin a grow would have to already be in the jar. All that crap about higher temps being "optimal for heat loving molds and bacterias" IS true for heat loving molds and bacteria. But let me tell you the mold and bacteria that contaminated your jar is a LOCAL mold or bac, and will contaminate your jars at room temp or 80* I mean if you sterilized the substrate, and it contamed, it came from your local environment right? Its pretty simple... and even the "heat loving" mold and bacteria will contaminate a jar at room temp. They have a wide temperature range that will sustain their growth. Thats why trich grows all over the earth, and every other mold or bacteria that is a common contaminate to a mushroom culture.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: SoreSpore]
    #16065357 - 04/09/12 01:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here it is from the man himself... Oh and I never said higher Temperatures wouldn't increase growth rate? Still trying to find that one..

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80F is fine for incubating, but don't exceed 81F or growth will slow.  86F is not optimal for cubensis.  Stamets quoted somebody else who supposedly put out some petri dishes in various temperatures and reported that to him, so he printed it.  I've tried to duplicate that experiment, and after several times, I reached the positive conclusion that mycelium rate of growth is fairly flat from 75F to 83F, with it falling off sharply at 84F and above.

It should also be noted that glass is an insulator, so the heat produced by the mycelium has no place to go and can easily spiral up into the range where growth falls off and thermophilic molds are encouraged.  That's why I recommend normal room temperature for incubation, even if it is a tad slower.  The benefits of a lower contamination rate far outweigh the extra day or two earlier they might colonize at a slightly warmer temperature.  besides, you should be waiting a week after full colonization anyway before birthing or spawning in order to allow the mycelium to consolidate its hold on the substrate.

As for fruiting temperatures, the lower 70's seems to produce the best fruit quality.  For years, I didn't AC my house in the summer because I live in a generally mild climate, and they still fruited fine into the 90's, which my grow area would often reach on summer afternoons.  I found that temperatures which would fry the mycelium during colonization, would hardly be a factor during fruiting, but the fruits grew very fast, were not very meaty, and the 'other' quality we look for was often lacking.
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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16065380 - 04/09/12 01:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh a couple more...

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Incubate at room temperature, up to 80F.  86F is NOT optimal for growth. Anything above 80F gives absolutely no increase in rate of growth, and growth slows down dramatically at 83F and above.  I've proved this time and time again with thousands of grows.  That's why I incubate all jars at normal room temperature on an open shelf.  The pf jars you see on the bottom shelf were fully colonized within 2 weeks.  I challenge any of you incubator growers to match that using 86F.  You won't be able to.
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I incubate quart jars of rye grain on a shelf above my dresser in the bedroom at normal room temperature.  There is no need to heat your jars beyond that point, as the increase in growth speed is minimal, but the risk of contaminants which are favored at higher temperatures increases.  Now, if your room is very cold, you'll need to run a space heater or something to warm it up.  75F works great.




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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16065549 - 04/09/12 02:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I ordered the same grow kit last night... I was not sure at first because all of the bad rep that grow kits have with most shroom freaks. But then I said fuck it... and ordered it... Im too lazy, who cares... does anybody else have experience with this grow kit? and please none of that waste of money shit cause I already bought it.. plus yesterday I was robbed for $100 when I was buying a half...>:(


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: jellycrab]
    #16065594 - 04/09/12 02:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i'm growing with it now i ended up makeing it a shotgun got rid of the shity air pump humidifier and the lights that come with it are cheap and dont give enough light also the hydrometer is crap and will fill with water droplets on the screen and stop working so i ended up paying $100+ for a crappy plastic bin and 18 brf cakes...
sry but i would just get a refund and mabey just order the brf cakes from them they worked out great no contams and go get your own perilite ,plastic bin and and a stronger light or just use sunlight for a couple hours a day.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16065610 - 04/09/12 02:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Here it is from the man himself... Oh and I never said higher Temperatures wouldn't increase growth rate? Still trying to find that one..

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80F is fine for incubating, but don't exceed 81F or growth will slow.  86F is not optimal for cubensis.  Stamets quoted somebody else who supposedly put out some petri dishes in various temperatures and reported that to him, so he printed it.  I've tried to duplicate that experiment, and after several times, I reached the positive conclusion that mycelium rate of growth is fairly flat from 75F to 83F, with it falling off sharply at 84F and above.

It should also be noted that glass is an insulator, so the heat produced by the mycelium has no place to go and can easily spiral up into the range where growth falls off and thermophilic molds are encouraged.  That's why I recommend normal room temperature for incubation, even if it is a tad slower. The benefits of a lower contamination rate far outweigh the extra day or two earlier they might colonize at a slightly warmer temperature.  besides, you should be waiting a week after full colonization anyway before birthing or spawning in order to allow the mycelium to consolidate its hold on the substrate.Cubensis don't need consolidation, just sayin'

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Okay, well for speed I would reccommend incubating at 80*. Since RR himself agrees that it is quicker. Also, with the mycelium growing at a quicker rate, this would decrease the chance of contamination. :wink:

Regardless of whether you incubate at 82* or 75* (which will be significantly slower, I assure you), the only sure fire way to avoid contamination out right is proper spawn preparation. If you got a contaminate in a jar that was being incubated, it would be very silly to thing that it came from the incubation.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: SoreSpore]
    #16065669 - 04/09/12 02:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They don't need to consolidate???

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Failing to follow the week long consolidation period is not a guarantee of failure, but your eventual flush will generally come sooner and be more prolific if you allow the mycelium to digest some of the substrate before exposing to fruiting conditions. 

We can thank shiitake growers for this discovery, which applies equally to cubensis, although they don't need the six weeks to two months of consolidation that benefit shiitake.
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A week to ten days is fine with cubensis.  Other species benefit from a longer consolidation process, such as shiitake.  The reason is they won't fruit during that period anyway, so just leave them in the jars so they don't dry out.
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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16065738 - 04/09/12 03:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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They don't need to consolidate???

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Failing to follow the week long consolidation period is not a guarantee of failure, but your eventual flush will generally come sooner and be more prolific if you allow the mycelium to digest some of the substrate before exposing to fruiting conditions. 

We can thank shiitake growers for this discovery, which applies equally to cubensis, although they don't need the six weeks to two months of consolidation that benefit shiitake.
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A week to ten days is fine with cubensis.  Other species benefit from a longer consolidation process, such as shiitake.  The reason is they won't fruit during that period anyway, so just leave them in the jars so they don't dry out.
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Yeah man, they don't need it. Maybe RogerRabbit reccommends it, but it is surely not needed by any stretch of the word.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: SoreSpore]
    #16066693 - 04/09/12 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

4-9-12 (Day 5)

KSSS


B+


The 3 KSSS are doing the best by far, all of the other jars seem to be slower.
These are just 2 pics I took, there are more jars with a little growth. 7 strains total.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16067979 - 04/09/12 11:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how are you liking the kit? are you using the incubator? when I get mine im planning on replacing the lights with a 6500k cfl natural daylight (blue spectrum)... I sure do hope that this kit will work good luck to us both and remember to keep patent and keep us updated:grin:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: jellycrab]
    #16068030 - 04/09/12 11:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i'm not using the incubator. They're in a styrofoam cooler with the heating pad around it tho. The lid is halfway on and it stays 75F in there. I just can't believe how well the ksss are doing. just 5 days and wow. :eek:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16068061 - 04/09/12 11:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Also we have some blue spectrum LEDs. they're all connected sets of 3, a good bit of them so that's the lights we're using when we get to fruiting.
Oh and i'll be updating every 2 days with pictures. :thumbup:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16068186 - 04/09/12 11:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

that sounds better than using the incubater I dont think I will be using the heat until fruiting because I live in AZ I hear the lights that come with the kit are shitty what is your opinion... please stay in touch and dont be afraid to give any advice for it would be greatly appreciated.:tongue2:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: jellycrab]
    #16068207 - 04/10/12 12:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha. Well i'm not really one to give advice since i'm just starting out in this hobby as well. I will stay in touch tho.
I heard the same about the lights, I might throw it in there with the LEDs anyways, not sure yet. :shrug:
Also i heard that digital humidity readers go to crap from being in the chamber with the humidity so high. Everyone seems to suggest an analog one.
We have 2 digital ones, and we'll probably just use them until they break. :lol:
I'd trust the humidity with that humidifier in there anyways.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16068226 - 04/10/12 12:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Luckily I have a realy nice humidity reader i use in my grow room. This is my firsttime growing mushrooms so im realy ampted... :crazy2:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: jellycrab]
    #16068264 - 04/10/12 12:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nice. i'm hoping my cakes will be ready to birth in about 2 weeks. that's just my guesstimate tho lol.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16068288 - 04/10/12 12:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I wish you all the luck in the world for your and my own sake lol no im sure within a few months we'll have more fruite than we know what to do with.:laugh:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: jellycrab]
    #16068314 - 04/10/12 12:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Back at ya. I can't wait. :awejeez:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: SoreSpore]
    #16069003 - 04/10/12 07:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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They don't need to consolidate???

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Failing to follow the week long consolidation period is not a guarantee of failure, but your eventual flush will generally come sooner and be more prolific if you allow the mycelium to digest some of the substrate before exposing to fruiting conditions. 

We can thank shiitake growers for this discovery, which applies equally to cubensis, although they don't need the six weeks to two months of consolidation that benefit shiitake.

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A week to ten days is fine with cubensis.  Other species benefit from a longer consolidation process, such as shiitake.  The reason is they won't fruit during that period anyway, so just leave them in the jars so they don't dry out.
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Yeah man, they don't need it. Maybe RogerRabbit reccommends it, but it is surely not needed by any stretch of the word.





If your just out to prove someone wrong then touche... But you shouldn't knock or discredit proven methods and things that help and work. Sure you don't NEED to, but why not? Why let them sit in your Fruiting conditions and extra 7 Days to wither and do nothing at all? When you could allow them to consolidate, birth and have fruits in mere days... Here's yet ANOTHER Trusted Cultivator that advises to consolidate your PF Cakes.

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Regardless of how many inoculation points you use IMO you should leave
your BRF cakes for 5-7 days after full colonization to consolidate.
This goes for multi-spore and liquid culture.

One thing you will learn in this hobby is patience, you cannot rush
nature and a cake that is birthed without consolidation will likely
sit in your fruiting chamber for an extra week before fruiting anyway.




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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16069169 - 04/10/12 08:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If your just out to prove someone wrong then touche... But you shouldn't knock or discredit proven methods and things that help and work. Sure you don't NEED to, but why not? Why let them sit in your Fruiting conditions and extra 7 Days to wither and do nothing at all? When you could allow them to consolidate, birth and have fruits in mere days... Here's yet ANOTHER Trusted Cultivator that advises to consolidate your PF Cakes.




Nah dude, I am not out to prove you are wrong. I just don't want there to be any confusion when it comes to the cultivation facts of a certain species. Personally, I've never done a single cake in my life. They are a waste of time when I can put in less effort and triple or quadruple my yield.

My favorite line from above is "Sure you don't NEED to, but why not?" ummm... lol I am not a fan of doing anything that is not needed.

Regardless of our entire conversation DyingBreed, I think it should be left stated that Psilocybe Cubensis do not NEED consolidation. It is an unneccessary step in the process. Some species, however, require consolidation. Cubensis is not that.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: SoreSpore]
    #16069181 - 04/10/12 08:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'd still feel safer consolidating for 5-7days. I'd like to start seeing fruits asap after I birth anyways :shrug:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16069198 - 04/10/12 08:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'd still feel safer consolidating for 5-7days. I'd like to start seeing fruits asap after I birth anyways :shrug:




Trust me, consolidation is well worth the small wait. This hobby is filled with the challenge of patience. And everything I state in my posts are from Personal Experience, that I've read and tested for myself.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16069201 - 04/10/12 08:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'd still feel safer consolidating for 5-7days. I'd like to start seeing fruits asap after I birth anyways :shrug:



That seems most logical. I encourage you to document your findings doing it both ways. Just make sure you are using the same strain.

I bet you still won't see fruits immediately after birthing. Pinning takes about 5-7 days regardless of what "consolidation" methods you use.

This should go in the same file with Cubensis overlay :rofl2:

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    #16069257 - 04/10/12 09:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'd still feel safer consolidating for 5-7days. I'd like to start seeing fruits asap after I birth anyways :shrug:



That seems most logical. I encourage you to document your findings doing it both ways. Just make sure you are using the same strain.

I bet you still won't see fruits immediately after birthing. Pinning takes about 5-7 days regardless of what "consolidation" methods you use.

This should go in the same file with Cubensis overlay :rofl2:



I'm fine with that. After this grow i'm ditching the jars and most of the strains anyways and moving to bags, monotubs, and only 2 strains with a monotub for each. When I get that going I can start experimenting and documenting my finds.. I'm sure the bags have the same colonization rules as the cakes tho, right?


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    #16069288 - 04/10/12 09:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'd still feel safer consolidating for 5-7days. I'd like to start seeing fruits asap after I birth anyways :shrug:



That seems most logical. I encourage you to document your findings doing it both ways. Just make sure you are using the same strain.

I bet you still won't see fruits immediately after birthing. Pinning takes about 5-7 days regardless of what "consolidation" methods you use.

This should go in the same file with Cubensis overlay :rofl2:



I'm fine with that. After this grow i'm ditching the jars and most of the strains anyways and moving to bags, monotubs, and only 2 strains with a monotub for each. When I get that going I can start experimenting and documenting my finds.. I'm sure the bags have the same colonization rules as the cakes tho, right?




Your mean the same rules as jars and no actually IME bags get a little hotter then jars but yea they work faster as long a there is about a quart/pound in there

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: bigshack]
    #16069639 - 04/10/12 11:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah jars are for our first grow after that monotub ksss and gt(for me)

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I'd still feel safer consolidating for 5-7days. I'd like to start seeing fruits asap after I birth anyways :shrug:



That seems most logical. I encourage you to document your findings doing it both ways. Just make sure you are using the same strain.

I bet you still won't see fruits immediately after birthing. Pinning takes about 5-7 days regardless of what "consolidation" methods you use.

This should go in the same file with Cubensis overlay :rofl2:



I'm fine with that. After this grow i'm ditching the jars and most of the strains anyways and moving to bags, monotubs, and only 2 strains with a monotub for each. When I get that going I can start experimenting and documenting my finds.. I'm sure the bags have the same colonization rules as the cakes tho, right?




Your mean the same rules as jars and no actually IME bags get a little hotter then jars but yea they work faster as long a there is about a quart/pound in there



yea i meant jars. I was thinking you just inoculate the bag in one spot where they have the self healing piece, then wait. I won't know until I do it for myself, but still. and i figured they would probably take longer than the jars to fully colonize, but I could be wrong. You said they're faster, but get hotter. I know we're getting a little off topic but the jars are doing all they can do and this is good shit :lol:
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    #16069895 - 04/10/12 12:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can't wait to see some more pictures.

I have done many invitro bag grows, but that might not be what you are looking for. I regularly do spawn bags, or grain bags. The trick with grain bags is to either choose a G2G route or slurry in a hurry tek. I've done it with LC many times, but the problem is that it takes nearly 3 weeks for full colonization of just 3 quart bags. However, if you inoculate with slurry, it takes about 10-14 days :thumbup: and if you transfer 1 full quart of grain into a 6 quart bag of grain, it takes about 14 days for full colonization. Good luck and I'll be watching this log.

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    #16071575 - 04/10/12 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have no idea how to do the casing layers and stuff yet, but before I get the tubs ready with holes and poly fill, this is what i'm going to get:
http://www.out-grow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=53
But that's all for the next grow, this one they'll just be cakes in a fruiting chamber. :tongue2:


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I have no idea how to do the casing layers and stuff yet, but before I get the tubs ready with holes and poly fill, this is what i'm going to get:
http://www.out-grow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=53
But that's all for the next grow, this one they'll just be cakes in a fruiting chamber. :tongue2:



Not a fan of casing layers. Seems to be a completely unnecessary step, especially if you are doing a monotub and don't plan on misting and fanning :wink:

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I have no idea how to do the casing layers and stuff yet, but before I get the tubs ready with holes and poly fill, this is what i'm going to get:
http://www.out-grow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=53
But that's all for the next grow, this one they'll just be cakes in a fruiting chamber. :tongue2:



Not a fan of casing layers. Seems to be a completely unnecessary step, especially if you are doing a monotub and don't plan on misting and fanning :wink:



And that's exactly what I wana do, I guess I gota do some more reading. :lol:
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    #16075380 - 04/11/12 01:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Update
4-11-12 (7 days after inoculation, 6 for the John Allen)

Koh Samui Super Strain


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    #16076337 - 04/11/12 04:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Alright so the temps are supposed to be getting pretty low the next few nights so we put them in the tub with the heating pad on the bottom set to go on and off with 30min intervals.
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    #16084093 - 04/13/12 09:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ok basically, the ksss were fully covered by day 4, but the growth looks more greyish compared to the other jars.
Here are some pics compared side by side, I hope they're enlargeable
KSSS is on the left, could it be cobweb mold? Should I just let them ride it out? All 3 did the same thing.





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    #16088865 - 04/14/12 11:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ok basically, the ksss were fully covered by day 4, but the growth looks more greyish compared to the other jars.
Here are some pics compared side by side, I hope they're enlargeable
KSSS is on the left, could it be cobweb mold? Should I just let them ride it out? All 3 did the same thing.





These 2 are B+






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    #16089415 - 04/14/12 02:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looking like your worrying to much they look healthy hit me up when your about to fruit we can trade i got some mexi cub, treasure coast, and golden teacher

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    #16089526 - 04/14/12 02:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

@ Skitzophr3nic , Lookin good so far.

When / If you are going to consume these mushrooms(for scientific purposes of course:wink:) you should take like .5 dry of each strain and eat em all up :nyan:


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ok basically, the ksss were fully covered by day 4, but the growth looks more greyish compared to the other jars.
Here are some pics compared side by side, I hope they're enlargeable
KSSS is on the left, could it be cobweb mold? Should I just let them ride it out? All 3 did the same thing.





These 2 are B+






Any thoughts? Lookin good? Look like shit? :cookiemonster:





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@ Skitzophr3nic , Lookin good so far.

When / If you are going to consume these mushrooms(for scientific purposes of course;)) you should take like .5 dry of each strain and eat em all up :nyan:



if all 7 grew, thatd be an eighth made up of 7 different mushrooms. :mindblown:
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@ Skitzophr3nic , Lookin good so far.

When / If you are going to consume these mushrooms(for scientific purposes of course;)) you should take like .5 dry of each strain and eat em all up :nyan:



if all 7 grew, thatd be an eighth made up of 7 different mushrooms. :mindblown:
It'd be all like :brainondrugs: :ancientaliens:




Lol. Nice graphic :grin:  But, oh dare I say it?...  A cube is a cube.... :realpeter:


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    #16091545 - 04/14/12 11:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Woah man nice pics in your sig! I must know the tek you used for the 3rd one of the blue tub. :eek:
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    #16091577 - 04/14/12 11:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Woah man nice pics in your sig! I must know the tek you used for the 3rd one of the blue tub. :eek:
I'm guessing cubes with no casing layer?





I'm pretty sure that tray was just wbs, I think either brazil or south american, spawned to a coir/verm/gypsum bulk sub and put in a sgfc. Once in a while good genetics give you good results. I refuse to suggest that it was due to any skill on my behalf.  :nojustno:


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    #16093063 - 04/15/12 10:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Looking like your worrying to much they look healthy hit me up when your about to fruit we can trade i got some mexi cub, treasure coast, and golden teacher



Alright cool, thanks. And trade what? Spores?




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    #16093636 - 04/15/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Between the sig and the colonization pics, I am feeling it :smile:


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Update 4-15-12 (11 days after inoculation)

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They look perfecto.


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    #16094837 - 04/15/12 07:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey I have a quick question on monotubs.
If I got this from out grow http://www.out-grow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=52pob
Then got a tub with polyfill and do all that with the trashbag and holes and what not.. Well would that be all I need?
Just colonize the grain jars, then mix it with the poo in the tub?
I'd be doing cubes so no need for casing, right?
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    #16096034 - 04/16/12 01:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need to use casing with cubes.

Have you seen this core tek? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595#11916595

Might be something to think about and probably relates a bit to your plan. You might even find that other plan better.


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    #16096113 - 04/16/12 01:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I see you kept the wild Aussie jar going . I got the same strain off the man from down under and plan to use it soon . Good luck to the pair of you on your grow , tuned in for more pics and updates.

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You don't need to use casing with cubes.

Have you seen this core tek? http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595#11916595

Might be something to think about and probably relates a bit to your plan. You might even find that other plan better.



alright, thanks, I'll check it out.

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    #16098335 - 04/16/12 04:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Here are the 3 KSSS that we thought had cobweb, and I'm pretty sure they did.

We dug a shallow hole, put some fresh we grass cuttings along with some wood shavings on the bottom, the crumbled cakes in the middle, then more grass, shavings, and a little dirt.
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    #16101474 - 04/17/12 10:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so If I bought this http://www.out-grow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=52 (which I will later today)
Could I just put the bags of shit in the closet until the grain jars are fully colonized?
And another question. Could I use 2 quarts of spawn and 2 pounds of shit for one tub?
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    #16102457 - 04/17/12 03:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Update 4-17-12 (day 13)

B+


DT


JA


MDK


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MCWC

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Can't wait til fruiting!

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just got the same kit today and knocked up 18 jars with penis envy, b+, ecuador and bay islands. this will be my first grow so any advice would be much appreciated. i was wondering if i should make it a shotgun chamber or do it how they have it set up with the air pump, also what is the stuff in the jar labeled humidifier and how do you use it?

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We just put the heating pad on low covers it with a thing fleec blanket n it goes to 81 n stops. When u go into fruiting you hook up the air pump n humidifer
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    #16107353 - 04/18/12 04:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks I have been reading for a while and finally decided to start posting, I'll let you know my progress with the jars and fruiting as I go. I'm pretty excited about this

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16108867 - 04/18/12 09:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The jars are at a steady 76.9 degrees F right now.  From what I've read that's just about perfect

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    #16108872 - 04/18/12 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yup, 75-80F is perfect. :thumbup:


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    #16108988 - 04/18/12 09:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've read a lot of your posts skitz and we are on the same page when it comes to our thoughts on kits and stuff.  I want to do this first grow with the kit since its paid for and I don't care about the money I want a grow under my belt then I plan on moving forward making my own jars and just learning more as I go.  I know nothing about monotubs or anything else since I've really been just studying the pf tek method. But I do want to learn everything I'm just trying to walk before I run.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16109162 - 04/18/12 10:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea me too man. I've been reading tons on monotubs/monobuckets preparing for my next grow.
It's a lot to take in at once with the whole spawn/substrate/casing thing, but the pieces are slowly falling together for me.
Until I actually do it I think it'll never make complete sense tho.
But yea I'm with you on the whole walk before you run thing lol, but after this I don't think i'll be using jars anymore. Bulk substrates seem to be the way to go. :thumbup:


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    #16109355 - 04/18/12 10:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Any suggestions on what links to read next? Monotubs and bulk substrates.  I know nothing about it so point me at the beginning if you can.  Thanks in advance

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    #16109442 - 04/18/12 11:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A good monotub tek, pretty much what i'm gona do except I wont be using his "easy coir tek". http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8231041/an/0/page/2

Now, if you'd rather pay instead of doing the work yourself, this is what i'm going to do.
I'm gona buy this http://www.out-grow.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=52&zenid=ig92vo5llgb0cjru62v5k5p3v6
So that would be your spawn (WBS or Rye), and substrate to replace large_dose's easy coir tek.
I'll go back and learn how to make my own spawn jars and substrate myself later.

Here's Damion5050's favorite links, there's some pretty good linkage in there. :thumbup:
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    #16109658 - 04/19/12 12:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man. I'm gonna do a lot of reading. I'll probably buy too, the money isn't that big of a deal for me, I will eventually do it myself though.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16111812 - 04/19/12 02:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My jars dropped down to 69.9 degrees last night.  Will this harm anything?

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    #16111847 - 04/19/12 02:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shouldn't. From what I know lower temps just cause slower growth. But higher temps cause a higher chance of contamination.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16112098 - 04/19/12 03:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's cool. It got pretty cold last night, think I'll try the heating pad with a blanket in between.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16112127 - 04/19/12 03:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you really shouldn't heat your jars with a heating pad. you should try to heat the room their in. drying out the bottoms of the jars is a bigg possibility,if you MUST heat do it via a tub in tub incubator.speaking from experience.how cold does it get inside your house at night anyways?


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    #16112245 - 04/19/12 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well last night it was in the 20's  outside I don't really want to use the pad but if I do I was thinking the blanket in between might insulate it a little bit, or should I just let it be at 70? Cuz it heated back up during the day to around 77.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16112293 - 04/19/12 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my temps range from 68-75F and my 1/2pints reach 100% right around the two week mark,your temps sound just fine,except the 20's outside, burrr!!:eek:.
it wouldn't take long for you to forget about the jars for a while during the day(s) and have them well above 80 with a pad.:thumbdown:


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    #16112329 - 04/19/12 04:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well that settles it for me, no pad. Might have to turn the heat up in the house though. I'm in MN so I'm used to cold it gets well below zero during the winter

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16112402 - 04/19/12 04:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

we have them in a tub with the pad underneath and a blanket in between.
It's on low and set to go on an off all day for 30 minute cycles.
Pretty much once it gets to 80-81 it cuts off and goes down to 75.
So the incubator stays 75-81F, and it seems to be doing well. :thumbup:


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    #16113219 - 04/19/12 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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we have them in a tub with the pad underneath and a blanket in between.
It's on low and set to go on an off all day for 30 minute cycles.
Pretty much once it gets to 80-81 it cuts off and goes down to 75.
So the incubator stays 75-81F, and it seems to be doing well. :thumbup:





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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Itzjoey]
    #16114133 - 04/19/12 10:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Lost a John Allen tonight to trichoderma (green mold). He is now buried.  :bow2:
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    #16114728 - 04/20/12 01:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sucks about the loss man, Was it looking good. And then the mold hit? And could the higher temp have caused it?

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    #16115292 - 04/20/12 07:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea it was looking perfect before the mold.. And yea I'm thinking it was probably the heat. Down to 13 jars and 6 strains now.


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    #16122044 - 04/21/12 09:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I can't seem to get the jars to 75. I just might have to use the heat pad

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16125472 - 04/22/12 06:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Put a towel in the bottom of the tub.  The jars are sitting on the towel. I put another towel in between the heating pad and the tub and it's been a steady 74.9 degrees

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16128819 - 04/23/12 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Lost another jar to an orange contam. It seems like we've ran into almost every color. 4 so far. :lol:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16129553 - 04/23/12 05:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That sucks! I'm finally starting to see some mycelium in mine

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    #16130123 - 04/23/12 07:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so I just looked at all the jars again and noticed a few light blue spots on the bottom of two of the B+ jars, anyone know what this could be?
A lot of the cakes are 100% so i'm thinking around this weekend I can birth most of them. :thumbup:


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    #16133932 - 04/24/12 03:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

cant wait for the birth!!!
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    #16136768 - 04/25/12 03:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The light blue spots will be bruising . Get some pics up when you birth them babies .

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    #16139383 - 04/25/12 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

alright cool. Bruising won't hurt anything will it? I'll get pics up as soon as possible, no charger at the moment.


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    #16139692 - 04/25/12 08:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Bruising? Can somebody explain bruising to me

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16139698 - 04/25/12 08:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My jars are looking good. So far no mold!

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    #16139818 - 04/25/12 09:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

bruising is just a bluing to the mycelium
pretty much same concept if someone punched you
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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Dazed Belief]
    #16140952 - 04/26/12 03:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When the time comes are you gonna use the kit he way it comes, with new lights of course? Or are you gonna make it a shotgun chamber? Just curious because I purchased the same kit and I am about two weeks behind you

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16145562 - 04/27/12 01:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so we noticed our first few pins in two of the bruised b+ jars and earlier today we got a little excited so we birthed those two after rinsing them off. Strained the two bags plus another extra bag of perlite before hand and lined the tub, connected humidifier, and added some blue spectrum led lights all around it for a 12/12 cycle. We then dunked 3 cakes for 6 hours and put them in also totaling 5 cakes in fruiting as of now. Letting 2 more go for about 12hrs at least in dunking. And theres still 5 in jars colonizing. Will upload pics hopefully within about 12 hours or so.


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    #16146285 - 04/27/12 09:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Alright i woke up this morning and noticed the temp in the fruiting chamber was 82F with a low of 73F so does temp play a big role in fruiting? We have these strips of blue LEDs inside the tub around it. each one has 3 LEDs on it and there was 17 but we cut off 3 bc of the temp so there are 14 bars with 3LEDs on each. Im not sure how many watts they are but i know theyre 12volts a bar. Any help or suggestions would be awesome, thanks! Ill have pics up later. And my humidity is staying 99 :thumbup:


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    #16147008 - 04/27/12 01:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Here's what  we got going on now.

First pin :crazy2:


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    #16148553 - 04/27/12 07:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was thinking I might make a shotgun chamber for half my jars and use the kits fruiting chamber and then compare the results when I'm finished.  This is my first grow as well

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    #16148829 - 04/27/12 08:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nice. I cant wait to see how the pins develop :laugh:


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    #16154834 - 04/29/12 10:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Anyone here ever birth without dunking and rolling, just rinsing?
This cake was only rinsed since it had a few pins growing in the jar


That pic was taken 2 days ago, I'll update with another pic later from the same angle to compare.
There's some other cakes in now that were dunked but not rolled, I'll have pics of them too.
The only reason I didn't roll is bc I don't have dry vermiculite.
I still have 5 jars colonizing, 1 with a good sized pin that's not even at 100%. (too much light I guess)
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    #16159499 - 04/30/12 09:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Alright so i was expecting bigger mushrooms lol but that pin has popped and spores are coming out. It looks mature but its only about 2 inches tho. What should i do? I have a pic but cant upload it at the moment


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    #16159881 - 04/30/12 11:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you wont spores all over leave it otherwise pick it . Are there any more pins on that same cake ?

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    #16162379 - 04/30/12 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry for the delay of pics but here's the latest.
Wish I had better quality but this is the best I can do for now.



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    #16171246 - 05/02/12 01:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so we picked some and then halfway thru drying we weighed them at 9gs and split them... it was an amazing 6hrs :awesomenod:


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    #16174052 - 05/02/12 09:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #16174354 - 05/02/12 10:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I got a kit from midwest aswell.  I keep it set up to fruit test cakes, but I like my monotub better.  Also planning a SGFC for when I start pan cyans.

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    #16175605 - 05/03/12 07:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hey all.
I ordered my mega kit from Midwest yesterday and was pretty pleased to find this thread with all those people who were trying the same thing as me almost at the same time :smile:
so congratulations and thanks to Skitzophr3nic  for putting all this work in and good luck to us all!

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    #16183467 - 05/04/12 08:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

alright so I can't get anymore pics but today we harvested a total 72grams wet between DTs and B+. One of the DTs weighed 25grams wet by itself :awesomenod:


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    #16183849 - 05/04/12 10:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok I got a shitty camera phone with bluetooth for pics every now and then.
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    #16187521 - 05/05/12 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Tuesday will be three weeks and my jars are between half way and three quarters full of mycelium. Is this too slow? Should I raise the heat? They're at about 76 degrees

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    #16187532 - 05/05/12 07:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Heat is not good man 76 is perfect keep them their . RR has said many times the inside temps are higher than the outside temp and growth drops off at about 83 to 86

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'Incubation temp' should be taken out of the mushroom nomenclature and replaced with 'colonization temp' which is great at normal room temperature, which is 74F to 78F.
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    #16187613 - 05/05/12 07:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe I'm impatient.  Is it going slow? Or is it normal to take this long?

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16187624 - 05/05/12 07:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's all genetics  some go super fast and some go super slow . I have some that are about 70% and its been a month ...

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: SimpleFarmer]
    #16196985 - 05/07/12 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wish I had some pics, but the harvests just keep getting better :trippinbawelz:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16198161 - 05/08/12 02:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As of today one of my jars of penis envy is completely covered. One week to colonize and I will start the fruiting stage.  This is awesome it being my first grow and all

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16204332 - 05/09/12 11:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I love the way the John Allens look, they're so awesome. Tall and skinny with pointed caps, but they dry up to hardly anything.. They still look fucking awesome tho :lol:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16208349 - 05/10/12 01:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's awesome skitz

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16218681 - 05/12/12 07:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey there. Did you have any MC jars survive? Seems to be a slow coloniser would you say? I still have a couple of prints left for myself.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: miyagsnuggs]
    #16220956 - 05/12/12 06:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1 survived but it's the only cake that hasn't pinned yet :shrug:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16221468 - 05/12/12 08:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's a shame, I reckon they are the best wild cubes ever!


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: miyagsnuggs]
    #16225668 - 05/13/12 05:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My penis envy jars are pinning and there's one that's an inch long. Can I still dunk and roll them?

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16225871 - 05/13/12 06:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hahah P.E BEST STRAIN EVER

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: noobtoke]
    #16233337 - 05/15/12 02:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I put two strains in the fruiting chamber today (penis envy and Ecuador). The rest are going in tomorrow (bay islands and b+). No mold on any jars so I'll be fruiting all 18 jars. I'm pretty excited. If I knew how to post the pics on my phone I would.

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16236210 - 05/15/12 05:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Here's some pic updates.


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16236891 - 05/15/12 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How long would it take from start to finish?


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Catfish Swiming]
    #16246534 - 05/17/12 06:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'd say about 6-8weeks


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16335583 - 06/05/12 11:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok well this grow is officially over. The Mount cotton did well at first but after the second harvest i tossed it with the others and didn't get any pics.
2 b+ cakes got covered with dark green mold and all the cakes were pretty much done so I ended it. Thank you to everyone!

Here's 2 pics i have laying around that i never uploaded



And here's one of 2g dried soaking in lemon juice. :crazy2:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16335677 - 06/05/12 11:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

nice work b!
cant wait to start my project with the b+
keep it real!!!

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Itzjoey]
    #16338920 - 06/05/12 11:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Why soak in lemon juice?

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16347644 - 06/07/12 05:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's supposed to strengthen the trip but it only lasts about 5 hours.
What you do is chop up some dried mushrooms and add lemon juice. I used about a shot per gram but i think you can do a shot for every 2 grams.
Anyways, you stir them around and let them sit for about 20 minutes. Make sure its mixed up pretty well and then about that 15-20min mark the lemon juice turns blue from the psilocybin.
Now just take it like a shot and you're good. :crazy2:
There's a debate on whether or not to strain it, but I like to get the most out of them. :cheers:


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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16352987 - 06/08/12 05:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Did you notice a difference?

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Re: First grow (Co-Op) [Re: mjb]
    #16353038 - 06/08/12 05:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yea it was a pretty strong trip for 2 grams, good for a short trip at night if you ask me.
But if I remember right, i started noticing effects in about 30 minutes instead of the usual 45 minutes to an hour.
I'd say give it a shot if you have some extra shrooms laying around. :shrug:
I wana try it again, but this time with an eighth. :thumbup:
Some people say it's good for re dosing within a few days of another trip because of tolerance, but I haven't tried it.


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Re: First grow (Complete) [Re: Skitzophr3nic]
    #16813381 - 09/08/12 08:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Jars (18): http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/substrate-jars.html




if this is your site, can u make possible a shipment in Serbia (europe)?


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Re: First grow (Complete) [Re: vlajce92]
    #16813405 - 09/08/12 08:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Jars (18): http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/substrate-jars.html




if this is your site, can u make possible a shipment in Serbia (europe)?



Not my site man. :shrug:


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