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savage.renegade


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Puffball i.d request
#16041261 - 04/04/12 12:09 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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 interior flesh is white and soft and squishy. stayed whitish tan over 4 hours since cut. my guess is a young Calvatia cyathiformis Im an amateur so help is much apreciated
here is a quote from a website. Is this statement true?
"Edibility
Puffballs are ideal for beginning mushroomers because there are no poisonous species, and they're easy to tell apart from other groups if you pay attention. If a puffball has no stalk or "legs," and is pure white, soft, and undifferentiated (no separate parts) inside, then it's in an immature state, and it's a choice edible mushroom.
Puffballs beginning to turn yellow inside or are already forming powdery spores are too late to eat. But you may find them again in the same place the following year, when you can collect them when they're younger."
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Edited by savage.renegade (04/04/12 03:15 AM)
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RiverDweller1



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looks like Scleroderma citrinum except the flesh is creamy not purple.
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wintersbefore
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Its not Scleroderma, Lycoperdon, or Bovista, so that probably only leaves Calvatia, let it mature but I think Scleroderma has a dark gleba at all stages of development.
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RiverDweller1



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savage.renegade


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Thankyou. will it still mature after picked? I guess puffballs are hard to i.d. when immature without microscopy? So even without knowing what it is this can be called edible? It did look like cream cheese inside. How do you eat these? Do you scrape the white part(gleba)? Or is the whole thing edible?
How the hell do you sporeprint it? Or you just go by the color of the gleba when mature?
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wintersbefore
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savage.renegade said: Thankyou. will it still mature after picked? I guess puffballs are hard to i.d. when immature without microscopy? So even without knowing what it is this can be called edible? It did look like cream cheese inside. How do you eat these? Do you scrape the white part(gleba)? Or is the whole thing edible?
How the hell do you sporeprint it? Or you just go by the color of the gleba when mature?
It will not mature after it has been picked, you don't take a spore print, just slice them as you have done, and I think the general rule with puffballs is that if their gleba is white, they are edible.
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RiverDweller1



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you could review this key and see where that gets you
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falcon



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Scleroderma starts out with a white center and all puffballs i've picked and kept around have matured after picking.
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wintersbefore
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Re: Puffball i.d request [Re: falcon]
#16044636 - 04/04/12 06:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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falcon said: Scleroderma starts out with a white center and all puffballs i've picked and kept around have matured after picking.
This appears to be true... and there is possibly no credibility to anything I've added to this post.
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RiverDweller1



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i only hesitated to correct you about the gleba because I've never seen it white, only marbled purple with a thin white/cream outer 'husk'. Having said that, I have no idea what this 'puffball' is.
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wintersbefore
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RiverDweller1 said: i only hesitated to correct you about the gleba because I've never seen it white, only marbled purple with a thin white/cream outer 'husk'. Having said that, I have no idea what this 'puffball' is. 
Don't hesitate to correct me, I try not to post things unless I have some level of confidence about it, but I have my moods
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falcon



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If I had to guess, I'd call it a scleroderma, seems to have a think rind, but I'm not sure either, I've never seen the rind crack on scleroderma so that the gleba shows through, like this one did.
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savage.renegade


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Re: Puffball i.d request [Re: falcon]
#16044982 - 04/04/12 07:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thankyou all of you. thanks for that link riverdweller. still just as confused. Ive been looking and there isnt too many pictures of immature puffballs. They seem to vary so much too.
It has been dry so maybe the puffball was drying out causing it to crack open. It was quite juicy on the inside though. It also felt smooth on most of the outer part. The gleba was starting turning from white to a slight tannish brown color.
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Edited by savage.renegade (04/04/12 07:57 PM)
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sumerian
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I remember as a kid, there was a park in Detroit down the block from my house that used to have huge GIANT Puffballs I would kick those suckers all over the place, i swear there were some record breakers in there. I do remember they used to have white puffballs that were powdery inside and they used to have the darker ones that were purple/darker inside... i heard the darker ones were poisonous...
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Originally Posted by CanYaDigItBrotha- I myself am thinking of Growing , and have a million and one questions about it ,One such Question is ,How Can it be that hard , its a mushroom after all and they grow in the wild .cant you just get some Dirt and Seeds add water and away you go ?Also do Mushrooms Regrow , Or dose one need to keep buying Seeds after every Yield???
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