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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16177857 - 05/03/12 06:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice looking grow so far!!

She's jiggling them for you..
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bishlap
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: Project]
#16190125 - 05/06/12 11:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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final weight of first flush cracker dry is 8 oz and some change, not as good as I would have liked but I'm not trying to be greedy, and next flush should be a few oz.
I'm retiring this tub for a while after its done. and basically starting from scratch, only isolates from here out
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16190153 - 05/06/12 12:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I bet more FAE and RH would have helped, but who knows. I find it very difficult to key in a mono with auto features. Perhaps I'm just not to a place of knowing how much of each to apply
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: elkart]
#16190199 - 05/06/12 12:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah my sub always looked a little dry I tried slowly rehydrating it but didn't seem to work well.
and all the side pins I got kinda proved that.
but I think dunking is out of the question I don't see a 4' long cake staying intact so I have been doing lots of light misting.
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16190371 - 05/06/12 01:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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someone recommended pouring about a cup of water on top so that it doesn't run off the sides but soaks into the top
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MagicCarpetRide89
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: elkart]
#16190425 - 05/06/12 01:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, I wouldn't do that. I've read ppl doing that and ended up getting trich because the water would just sit there or you will ened up over saturating your cake. I would do even a heavy mist or a dunk
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basically what I have been doing is spraying a very fine mist just enough to make my sub glisten but not wet every few hours that I'm home.
the pour might work but I imagine its would rehydrate unevenly if it would even soak in, there's a thick coat of mycelium on my sub it takes a few hours to evaporate mistings between sprays.
but the tub is still pretty heavy I think I was actually giving too much fae for how often I was misting, it has 6 3" holes at sub level and I actually had to cut out some pins early because they were growing out the holes pushing my poly out of 2 holes for a few days before I noticed.
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16190578 - 05/06/12 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't dunk. I just do a heavy misting after I've picked. I've read about pouring water in the tub. And I did that once. I ended up having to take my tub and while holding the sub with one hand, tilting the tub with an other. Thankfully, my tubs aren't the super huge ones. So this wasn't to bad. But I think I'll stick with the misting!!
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dunking imo is a bit over rated when dealing with bulk sub, at least with coir because I get great first flushes and comparably crap second flushes, I never went for third flush when using coir.
some day I'm going to get a nice digital floor scale and start weighing before and after each flush and dunk.
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16190710 - 05/06/12 02:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's a good idea. This way, you can tell how much water you've actually lost. Just to say though, my tub is getting ready to go on it's fourth flush. I'm pretty sure though that after this flush, there won't be to much nutrients left. Since most of the last flush was from the sides. Still not signs of contams though.
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16190785 - 05/06/12 03:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bishlap said: dunking imo is a bit over rated when dealing with bulk sub, at least with coir because I get great first flushes and comparably crap second flushes, I never went for third flush when using coir.
some day I'm going to get a nice digital floor scale and start weighing before and after each flush and dunk.
i used to do something like this but i would just use a nice sized digi table scale and weigh each flush wet to know about how much h20 to replace.
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they have table scales that go to 100 lb? I imagine they would be ridiculously priced.
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16190918 - 05/06/12 04:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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if your set on weighing the tub itself,then yeah your gunna need a floor scale,but the scale i work with has a max of 10lbs,it works to weigh my flushes.
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well I couldn't remove a cake just to weigh it and I imagine a cake prior to first flush weighs 20-30 lb in a regular mono I'm guessing
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16191147 - 05/06/12 04:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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im confusing you i believe ,i am only weighing my wet fruits,that i pull from the sub.then apply a formula of 1ml h20 = 1 gram.then rehydrate the tubs accordingly.ya see.
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cubes4cancer said: im confusing you i believe ,i am only weighing my wet fruits,that i pull from the sub.then apply a formula of 1ml h20 = 1 gram.then rehydrate the tubs accordingly.ya see.
So I'm not going to try to get too complicate this to much, but if a shroom is 90% water (and you would have to take this into count) and your wet weight is 100gm wet, you sub only really lost 90gm of water (this sounds right in my head, but I could be wrong). Maybe, Idk
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Quote:
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cubes4cancer said: im confusing you i believe ,i am only weighing my wet fruits,that i pull from the sub.then apply a formula of 1ml h20 = 1 gram.then rehydrate the tubs accordingly.ya see.
So I'm not going to try to get too complicate this to much, but if a shroom is 90% water (and you would have to take this into count) and your wet weight is 100gm wet, you sub only really lost 90gm of water (this sounds right in my head, but I could be wrong). Maybe, Idk
yeah, that 10% comes from the substrate. but just weighing the mushrooms pulled doesn't account for aspiration and evaporation.
although I'm shure it wouldn't be likely to be able to rehydrate back to pre first flush weight.
weighing tubs is most likely pointless but this is my hobby and I enjoy gathering and comparing info.
just not enough to go buy a floor scale.
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Re: almost soiled myself [Re: bishlap]
#16191339 - 05/06/12 05:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bishlap said: weighing tubs is most likely pointless but this is my hobby and I enjoy gathering and comparing info.
Yeah, I'm really getting into this too. But there's so much info and it's easy to get information overload from all the reading one can do on here. And there's more than one site with info too. Someone sent me a link to it and asked me to check it out. And I found a few members from this site over there too!! it's crazy
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