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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: 4896744]
    #16045027 - 04/04/12 10:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I get that.  But since we are debating rather than correcting anything I'm going to go for my vision of a cool world.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #16045924 - 04/05/12 01:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
It's better than nothing.




No, it's not, because you'd end up wasting more money then you'd save.

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zappaisgod said:
They are NOT technically socialist.




Do you not understand the meaning of "socialist?"

Tell me something: Why do GOP pigs like you insist state-paid medical care is "socialist," yet state paid education, police, fire departments, streets, and parks are not considered "socialist?"

Or, do guys like you simply "cry socialism" whenever it's convenient?

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So if i want to have any health insurance at all I have to have health insurance that covers a whole shitload of things I don't want and that costs way more than what I do want just because you want something?  Buy your own whore pills.




I highly doubt it would barely change your premiums. Consider the fact that medical insurance has risen approximately 500 percent within the past 2 decades. You really think any of that is because of what they cover? Or is it just to make the insurance companies rich? If you're REALLY interested in keeping low premiums rate, you would be willing to put a price maximum on the amount insurance companies can charge. Because the amount they are making is far, FARRRRRRRR more than what people put into it.

Reminds me of this one joke (which I am going to modify to apply to this set of circumstances).

An average American guy, a woman, and a CEO of the health insurance company are all sitting at a table, in front of a place of a dozen cookies. The insurance company CEO grabs all 11 cookies, then turns to the American guy and says, "You better watch out, looks like that woman wants your cookie." And you guys actually FALL for it.

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Insurance companies cannot drop people who pay their insurance bill.  Requiring them to pick up coverage for pre-existing conditions isn't insurance.  That's like getting collision only after you have had an accident.  Further, and here's a fucking novel concept, you can just fucking pay for your medical costs out of pocket.  What a fucking revolutionary concept.  Somebody paying for a service.




THEY DO DROP PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

Here is an example where the health insurance company dropped somebody for underpaying by 2 cents, because they wanted to get rid of him because he had cancer: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/01/26/140965/insurance-company-veteran-cents/

Here's another one where they dropped AIDS patients who were costing the company too much money: http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/03/17/insurance-company-targeted-hiv-positive-patients-to-drop-their-coverage/

Do you not fucking understand how fucking expensive medical care is in the US? My last hospital visit, which was 10 days, cost $90,000 fucking dollars! If I wasn't insured, I'd have been SCREWED and in debt for the rest of my fucking life! Fuck I paid less for college.

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What gloriously unsubstantiated bit of speculation.  Would you please link us to the ass from which those facts were extracted?  Do you know what would save the taxpayer more money?  Shooting the homeless.  You better leave that slope behind.




What a noble cause :rolleyes: What you just suggested is the exact same thing Hitler did to get rid of the handicapped, the gays, and the homeless.


Oh, and here's some links to prove that the homeless population costs $40,000 a year. These are stats from the HUD secretary & the US Dept of Housing. Google is your friend: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/12/shaun-donovan/hud-secretary-says-homeless-person-costs-taxpayers/

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Bullshit.  If the price of housing in your area is to high MOVE!  If you subsidize a thing you get more of it.  Econ 101.




I highly fucking doubt you have ever taken an economics course. If you had, you would have also known that decreasing the homeless population keep the value of housing rates. And you would have learned the high price of housing has to do with inflation and the housing bubble, not your ridiculous attempt at making a faux-smart comment by saying "just move. Durr hurr."

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Yes, fascism makes the trains run on time.  Pollution does not equal waste.  One could argue that worrying about pollution is wasteful.




You claim to have taken an economics course, yet you don't know the meaning of a spillover.

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WOW!  There is some woman in Central Idaho who would have to drive 8 hours to find a charity clinic.  Maybe the government should just install one clinic every 100 miles.  Or, better yet, if it's that fucking important to you, MOVE.




Right, what a stupid suggestion. Because people choose where they live and where they go to school and where they get jobs based on how easily they can get birth control. :rolleyes:

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The sense of entitlement is so thick it oozes out your pores.  Not only do you think you should be entitled to get something for yourself but you think I should have to give something of mine as well.  Me not buying you something does not constitute me forbidding it.  But you forcing me to buy something constitutes you forbidding me from spending that money where I see fit.




How the fuck am I "entitled" if I have never ever collected government benefits aside from student aid (which nearly every student does)? Just because I'm not collecting government benefits however, doesn't mean I don't care about other people. Just because I'm not gay doesn't mean I can't fight for gay rights. If anything, I have a sense of philanthropy, whereas YOU have the sense of entitlement.

You believe that you inherently deserve what other people don't, simply because you have access to money, and they don't. The idea that a person doesn't deserve the right to health simply because they don't have tens or hundreds of thousand dollars stored away is based on YOUR sense of superiority and entitlement (and I highly doubt YOU would have that kind of money, if you were to fall ill and your insurance company were to drop you). THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NOT ON YOUR FUCKING SIDE.

I don't know why blue-collar middle-class guys like you spew this shit; do you really honestly think if you keep believing this shit you're going to be rich one day or something? Do you want so badly to be "one of them?" Is that it?

FUCK I am getting really hateful of humanity.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: Crystal G]
    #16046619 - 04/05/12 08:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why do GOP pigs like you

You're flaming dear. :nono: It's a sign of low self esteem, creativity and self control.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: Icelander]
    #16046984 - 04/05/12 11:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

man, these threads get down right evil. I feel like it's retarded of me to argue in these thread topics anymore. Is this birth control crap 90% of the deficit budget that people need to try and tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body? $10 a month who can't afford that?

Thank god this wasn't an abortion thread. I've heard so much nonsense about how 'China does it right' in terms of controlling overpopulation(and yet they are the most overpopulated country in the world!) Then people argue "abortion should be illegal" and "abortion should be mandatory like in China"

Now I don't have a good decision on whether abortion should be available or not. But does anyone think mandatory abortion whether people want it or not is similar to mandatory Jew gassing whether they want it or not? Damn politics make me sick... how many people in this thread have kids?


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16046999 - 04/05/12 11:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nice of you to bring abortion into this especially when you are all worked up about peoples extreme views. :lol:

You're just chomping at the bit to mix it up here. :haha:


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: Icelander]
    #16047128 - 04/05/12 12:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

how much worst could the thread get? If this thread gets any worst, peoples views are going to change to:

"if a women can't pay for her birth control, she should be executed!"

:lol: this thread is pretty Hitlerish


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16047691 - 04/05/12 02:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think execution is a little harsh.  I'm thinking work farms.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: Icelander]
    #16047705 - 04/05/12 02:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I think execution is a little harsh.  I'm thinking work farms.



If we're honest, no woman has to pay for birth control...If she's hot enough to get laid...she's hot enough to get someone to pay for it in exchange for getting laid...


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: Enlil]
    #16047931 - 04/05/12 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Enlil said:
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Icelander said:
I think execution is a little harsh.  I'm thinking work farms.



If we're honest, no woman has to pay for birth control...If she's hot enough to get laid...she's hot enough to get someone to pay for it in exchange for getting laid...




dude like no fucking kidding. How can a job require someone be tested for birth control? That was the original topic, not population control. How did this subject get so off topic? The fact is that no woman takes birth control to get high, and it's a woman's right if she wants to be married. This crap is practically unconstitutional. practically


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

Understanding subtleties is hard. What is subtle? Subtle is powerful. Atoms are subtle. Atoms make up everything we are. Understanding subtleties is one of the hardest parts of life.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: Crystal G]
    #16048797 - 04/05/12 06:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
They are NOT technically socialist.




Do you not understand the meaning of "socialist?"

Tell me something: Why do GOP pigs like you insist state-paid medical care is "socialist," yet state paid education, police, fire departments, streets, and parks are not considered "socialist?"

Or, do guys like you simply "cry socialism" whenever it's convenient?




The nonsense never ends.  BY your rationale if the state pays for anything it isn't socialist to pay for everything.  Which is, of course, incredibly stupid.  There are legitimate functions of government, like security, that are common to all governments.  As far as public education goes they have clearly botched it and I don't think the federal government should have anything to do with it at all.
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So if i want to have any health insurance at all I have to have health insurance that covers a whole shitload of things I don't want and that costs way more than what I do want just because you want something?  Buy your own whore pills.




I highly doubt it would barely change your premiums. Consider the fact that medical insurance has risen approximately 500 percent within the past 2 decades. You really think any of that is because of what they cover? Or is it just to make the insurance companies rich? If you're REALLY interested in keeping low premiums rate, you would be willing to put a price maximum on the amount insurance companies can charge. Because the amount they are making is far, FARRRRRRRR more than what people put into it.




My premiums would be less than half.  The profit margin for health insurance companies is around 5%.  In other words, peanuts.
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Reminds me of this one joke (which I am going to modify to apply to this set of circumstances).

An average American guy, a woman, and a CEO of the health insurance company are all sitting at a table, in front of a place of a dozen cookies. The insurance company CEO grabs all 11 cookies, then turns to the American guy and says, "You better watch out, looks like that woman wants your cookie." And you guys actually FALL for it.




If you think they're getting so rich why don't you buy stock in health insurance companies?  As far as I know they are pretty much all publicly traded.  Be a mogul, you're such an astute analyst.
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Insurance companies cannot drop people who pay their insurance bill.  Requiring them to pick up coverage for pre-existing conditions isn't insurance.  That's like getting collision only after you have had an accident.  Further, and here's a fucking novel concept, you can just fucking pay for your medical costs out of pocket.  What a fucking revolutionary concept.  Somebody paying for a service.




THEY DO DROP PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.




Not if you pay your bill.  You didn't address the point that requiring them to pick up coverage of people who are already sick is absurd.
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Here is an example where the health insurance company dropped somebody for underpaying by 2 cents, because they wanted to get rid of him because he had cancer: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/01/26/140965/insurance-company-veteran-cents/




Gee, he didn't pay his fucking bill, did he? 
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Here's another one where they dropped AIDS patients who were costing the company too much money: http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/03/17/insurance-company-targeted-hiv-positive-patients-to-drop-their-coverage/




Most insurance coverage has limits.  It's spelled out in the fucking contract when you sign it.
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Do you not fucking understand how fucking expensive medical care is in the US? My last hospital visit, which was 10 days, cost $90,000 fucking dollars! If I wasn't insured, I'd have been SCREWED and in debt for the rest of my fucking life! Fuck I paid less for college.




Tough shit.  How does that obligate me to pay?
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What gloriously unsubstantiated bit of speculation.  Would you please link us to the ass from which those facts were extracted?  Do you know what would save the taxpayer more money?  Shooting the homeless.  You better leave that slope behind.




What a noble cause :rolleyes: What you just suggested is the exact same thing Hitler did to get rid of the handicapped, the gays, and the homeless.




I didn't make the suggestion.  You're the cost benefit bureaucrat here, not me.  I told you you should leave it alone.  But you seemingly can't.
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Oh, and here's some links to prove that the homeless population costs $40,000 a year. These are stats from the HUD secretary & the US Dept of Housing. Google is your friend: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/12/shaun-donovan/hud-secretary-says-homeless-person-costs-taxpayers/




LOL at Politifact and Jon Stewart and Obama's socialist shill.  Let's look at one of the concluding paragraphs:

"He drew that figure from a 10-year-old study that wasn’t looking at the general homeless population but at people with severe mental illness -- a group that uses more services. The study also focused on New York City, an expensive place to live."

Do you know why that costs so much?  because liberal nitwits forced the closing of asylums all over the country.  Put the loons back in the bin and it will be a lot cheaper.
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Bullshit.  If the price of housing in your area is to high MOVE!  If you subsidize a thing you get more of it.  Econ 101.




I highly fucking doubt you have ever taken an economics course. If you had, you would have also known that decreasing the homeless population keep the value of housing rates. And you would have learned the high price of housing has to do with inflation and the housing bubble, not your ridiculous attempt at making a faux-smart comment by saying "just move. Durr hurr."




Of course you are too wrapped up in your bullshit to know that housing prices have fallen precipitously in the last three years.  Do you live under a rock?
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Yes, fascism makes the trains run on time.  Pollution does not equal waste.  One could argue that worrying about pollution is wasteful.




You claim to have taken an economics course, yet you don't know the meaning of a spillover.




Pollution does not equal waste.  Either make a case that it does or not.
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WOW!  There is some woman in Central Idaho who would have to drive 8 hours to find a charity clinic.  Maybe the government should just install one clinic every 100 miles.  Or, better yet, if it's that fucking important to you, MOVE.




Right, what a stupid suggestion. Because people choose where they live and where they go to school and where they get jobs based on how easily they can get birth control. :rolleyes:




If it's so important to them they should.  It certainly doesn't obligage me to fund a Planned Parenthood outlet in Yellow Pine Idaho.  If you want the benefits of civilization don't live in the boonies
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The sense of entitlement is so thick it oozes out your pores.  Not only do you think you should be entitled to get something for yourself but you think I should have to give something of mine as well.  Me not buying you something does not constitute me forbidding it.  But you forcing me to buy something constitutes you forbidding me from spending that money where I see fit.




How the fuck am I "entitled" if I have never ever collected government benefits aside from student aid (which nearly every student does)? Just because I'm not collecting government benefits however, doesn't mean I don't care about other people. Just because I'm not gay doesn't mean I can't fight for gay rights. If anything, I have a sense of philanthropy, whereas YOU have the sense of entitlement.


  You think you are entitled to have every insurance policy buyer have to pay for the coverage you want.  My sense of entitlement extends to thinking that I am entitled to keep what I earn and to purchase the products I want to buy without being compelled to pay for a bunch of shit I don't want just to spread the risk pool to give somebody the product they want for less money.
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You believe that you inherently deserve what other people don't, simply because you have access to money, and they don't. The idea that a person doesn't deserve the right to health simply because they don't have tens or hundreds of thousand dollars stored away is based on YOUR sense of superiority and entitlement (and I highly doubt YOU would have that kind of money, if you were to fall ill and your insurance company were to drop you). THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NOT ON YOUR FUCKING SIDE.


  I don't expect them to be.  That isn't their job.  I expect them to honor their contracts.  If they don't I will sue them and win
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I don't know why blue-collar middle-class guys like you spew this shit; do you really honestly think if you keep believing this shit you're going to be rich one day or something? Do you want so badly to be "one of them?" Is that it?

FUCK I am getting really hateful of humanity.




I am not middle class blue collar.  We are well into the 1% and I am fucking sick of paying for more and more bullshit for everybody else.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16048837 - 04/05/12 06:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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imachavel said:
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Enlil said:
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Icelander said:
I think execution is a little harsh.  I'm thinking work farms.



If we're honest, no woman has to pay for birth control...If she's hot enough to get laid...she's hot enough to get someone to pay for it in exchange for getting laid...




dude like no fucking kidding. How can a job require someone be tested for birth control? That was the original topic, not population control. How did this subject get so off topic? The fact is that no woman takes birth control to get high, and it's a woman's right if she wants to be married. This crap is practically unconstitutional. practically




Huh?  You obviously didn't read the links

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A proposed new law in Arizona would give employers the power to request that women being prescribed birth control pills provide proof that they're using it for non-sexual reasons.





A legitimate medical reason (hormone therapy) and not a lifestyle reason (whore pills).  I have no problem buying a health plan that covers a medical necessity.  I have a great problem with paying for someone's lifestyle choice by government fiat.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #16049381 - 04/05/12 08:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

how much do YOU have to pay for it? You don't mind paying 700 billion for a war that had more to do with oil then 9-11?(I'm sure we don't want to bring up Saddam again)

Now hormone control is a lifestyle choice? Dude, if a chick wants to go fuck, and not have a baby, more power to her, I meet 100 idiots a day, at the end of the year that equals 36,500 idiots, and there are millions more. Do we really really really really really really really really really need another one? She isn't married? Who gives a fuck. And yeah, she can pay for it.

Sorry to drop in on this, it's a pretty huge debate. And I'm not being sarcastic, sorry to drop in. Hate dealing with this stuff. This crap is PENNIES compared to the big picture. But it's nice to get it all out in the open anyway. This to me is like arguing that rich people aren't taxed more then poor people. Of course they are, who cares they can afford it. If they can't afford it anymore they won't be rich anymore and thus will be taxed less. Btw taxed? Fucking a, the governments had it's fun with our taxes. Fuck the government, fuck the republicans, fuck the democrats. The only reason I don't believe in god damn anarchy, is because eventually it will be too unstable, one side will gain control and call itself the government, no business will exist without marketing(impossible), and the only thing left will be the usual, communism or fascism, total dictatorial ism


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

Understanding subtleties is hard. What is subtle? Subtle is powerful. Atoms are subtle. Atoms make up everything we are. Understanding subtleties is one of the hardest parts of life.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16049407 - 04/05/12 08:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Look, it doesn't matter one wit if the rich are greedy bastards or stingy. It's their money.  I'm not rich like Zappa so I care even more that people who don't take responsibility for themselves demand that I do it for them.

As to your other comments I fully expect a dictatorship in America at some point. IMO that's the way we're heading but I'm not worried cause I'm old. :haha:


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16049802 - 04/05/12 09:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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how much do YOU have to pay for it? You don't mind paying 700 billion for a war that had more to do with oil then 9-11?(I'm sure we don't want to bring up Saddam again)




What war are you referring to?  I am not aware of any war that had anything to do with oil (not that here would be anything wrong with that)
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Now hormone control is a lifestyle choice?


  If you had reading comprehension you would know that I didn't have a problem with medically necessary hormone therapy or that the law had an explicit exemption for it.
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Dude, if a chick wants to go fuck, and not have a baby, more power to her, I meet 100 idiots a day, at the end of the year that equals 36,500 idiots, and there are millions more. Do we really really really really really really really really really need another one? She isn't married? Who gives a fuck. And yeah, she can pay for it.

Sorry to drop in on this, it's a pretty huge debate. And I'm not being sarcastic, sorry to drop in. Hate dealing with this stuff. This crap is PENNIES compared to the big picture. But it's nice to get it all out in the open anyway. This to me is like arguing that rich people aren't taxed more then poor people. Of course they are, who cares they can afford it. If they can't afford it anymore they won't be rich anymore and thus will be taxed less. Btw taxed? Fucking a, the governments had it's fun with our taxes. Fuck the government, fuck the republicans, fuck the democrats. The only reason I don't believe in god damn anarchy, is because eventually it will be too unstable, one side will gain control and call itself the government, no business will exist without marketing(impossible), and the only thing left will be the usual, communism or fascism, total dictatorial ism





The government hasn't had its fun with your taxes.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #16049920 - 04/05/12 10:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

when the whole nation/president/congress/mayor/governor is all republican, it'll be worst then DEMOCRAcy. It'll be worst then Obama, then Zappa and all the others will turn this country face flat into communism. The rich already own everything, why not start assigning people garbage.

We really have to go through this whole thing all over again zappa? :rolleyes: America NEVER got any benefit from oil from that 'war that didn't happen.' Back to birth control?


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16049945 - 04/05/12 10:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:braindamage:  I don't think you have any idea how dangerous Obama is. Why? Cause you think he's a liberal and so mostly benign.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #16049975 - 04/05/12 10:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you not fucking understand how fucking expensive medical care is in the US? My last hospital visit, which was 10 days, cost $90,000 fucking dollars! If I wasn't insured, I'd have been SCREWED and in debt for the rest of my fucking life! Fuck I paid less for college.




Tough shit.  How does that obligate me to pay?

If it's so important to them they should.  It certainly doesn't obligage me to fund a Planned Parenthood outlet in Yellow Pine Idaho.  If you want the benefits of civilization don't live in the boonies




benefits of civilization don't live in the boonies? You think in Yellow Pine Idaho there aren't people who create planned parenthood? ridiculous! That is like me saying in Somalia Africa, women wouldn't benefit from birth control!


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: Icelander]
    #16049981 - 04/05/12 10:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:braindamage:  I don't think you have any idea how dangerous Obama is. Why? Cause you think he's a liberal and so mostly benign.




are comparing Hitler and Stalin now? Did Hitler almost take over the world? Did Russia almost blow up the world?


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

Understanding subtleties is hard. What is subtle? Subtle is powerful. Atoms are subtle. Atoms make up everything we are. Understanding subtleties is one of the hardest parts of life.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16049990 - 04/05/12 10:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If I had a clue what you're talking about I'd answer, really.


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Re: Use Birth Control? You're FIRED, WHORE!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #16050008 - 04/05/12 10:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you not fucking understand how fucking expensive medical care is in the US? My last hospital visit, which was 10 days, cost $90,000 fucking dollars! If I wasn't insured, I'd have been SCREWED and in debt for the rest of my fucking life! Fuck I paid less for college.




Tough shit.  How does that obligate me to pay?

If it's so important to them they should.  It certainly doesn't obligage me to fund a Planned Parenthood outlet in Yellow Pine Idaho.  If you want the benefits of civilization don't live in the boonies




benefits of civilization don't live in the boonies? You think in Yellow Pine Idaho there aren't people who create planned parenthood? ridiculous! That is like me saying in Somalia Africa, women wouldn't benefit from birth control!




Setting aside the fact that you are diverging from the point you really need to know more about Yellow Pine than you do now. 

So buy Somalian women birth control if you think it's good for them.  Maybe if you think it's good enough for them you'll make them take it.


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