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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #15988689 - 03/24/12 03:41 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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WorldWideWInton said:raised heels fuck up squats.......I really don't know a lot about this stuff.



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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #15988742 - 03/24/12 04:41 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I've not tried the vibrams, but the Adipure have that little foam layer (less than 1cm) to help disperse the load from heavy lifts. They do feel plasticy, but the one piece top does a great job of keeping your foot in place, plus they were designed for training, rather than running/hiking. The Adidas stripes are also bands that make it fit more secure. I only wear mine to the gym, but the open toed design lets your body use the right muscles for balance.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: fngbronco]
    #16024912 - 03/31/12 03:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I tried a pair of the adipure on today.  They are actually really nice feeling.  No way anyone is going to be running in them.  Super solid feeling.  I liked em for sure.  They seem like they are not the same quality of construction as the v5 but for lifting they would be fine.  I guess the v5 are heartier is becuse of the impact they get from running...

her is a artical I found on some bb forum. 

HPBCD Basics
By David Tolson


One of the primary issues concerning steroids and prohormones is that of optimal delivery. While most drugs and supplements are taken orally, there are a number of reasons why this method is largely ineffective with most prohormones. When taken orally, these compounds are extensively metabolized in the liver, making the dose used much larger than the amount that gets through. This may also place undue stress on the liver, especially with certain substances. Because of this, other delivery methods, such as transdermal, sublingual, and intranasal, have all become popularized, and each has advantages and disadvantages. This article discusses the compound hydroxypropyl-beta cyclodextrin (HPBCD), which can be used to facilitate prohormone delivery in a number of ways.

Cyclodextrins are a group of compounds that are commonly used in medicine to increase the aqueous solubility of drug substances by complexation [1]. Cyclodextrins are cyclic oligosaccarides, or sugars, which contain alpha-1,4 linked glucopyranose units (in the case of beta-cyclodextrins, seven of these units) in a truncated cone shape [2]. This results in a molecule that has an internal cavity that is hydrophobic and easily forms a complex with a steroid/prohormone molecule, while the outer surface of the cyclodextrin is hydrophilic, and this makes the complex easily dissolvable in water [2-4]. This renders prohormones much more bioavailable, and cyclodextrins are capable of enhancing nasal, sublingual, and transdermal delivery [5-6], among others. Moreover, cyclodextrins will cause much less irritation than other methods [3, 7].

The cyclodextrin of choice for prohormone delivery is HPBCD. When compared to other testosterone beta-cyclodextrin complexes, HPBCD was 1,533 percent more soluble in water, while another study found that HPBCD-steroid complexes were effective while beta-cyclodextrin-steroid complexes were not [4]. HPBCD also has an excellent safety profile.

Sublingual delivery

Sublingual delivery (administered under the tongue) presents an attractive alternative to traditional oral administration. Because of the limited surface area, the amount of prohormone that can be absorbed at one time appears to be 25 milligrams or less. However, when compared to oral delivery, even this amount is advantageous. One study found that a cyclodextrin complex containing 10 mg of testosterone delivered sublingually raised testosterone levels by 900% over baseline, with a 485% elevation at the two hour point. In contrast, even 200 mg of oral testosterone only raises levels by around 500% at the peak. A study comparing oral and cyclodextrin complexed 4-androstenediol also found that the sublingual version lead to a 261% greater increase in testosterone with one quarter of the dose, with the peak levels at 40 as opposed to 90 minutes. [4]

All in all, sublingual delivery is much more effective than oral for the amount used, but it does require more frequent dosing. Sublingual prohormones are usually taken 3-5 times daily.

Intranasal delivery

Intranasal delivery takes the trend of sublingual delivery even further. It is doubtful that more than 20 mg at a time will be absorbed using this method, and blood levels quickly spike 15 minutes after delivery and then dissipate to baseline by 90 minutes. Running a cycle using this method is impractical, as one has to dose up to 10 times daily. However, bioavailability is further increased – intranasal delivery has the highest bioavailability of all prohormone delivery methods, short of injection [7]. Additionally, intranasal delivery provides the most direct route to the brain [6, 7]. For these reasons, this method has become popular for pre-workout stimulant purposes. Many people report increased workout intensity from intranasal prohormones. DHT precursors are best suited to this purpose, although some other prohormones may make effective pre-workout stimulants as well.

Conclusion

HPBCD complexes can allow for a number of novel effective prohormone delivery methods. Each one has unique advantages and disadvantages.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16024920 - 03/31/12 03:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Imagine doing a fat line of test preworkout instead of dmaa...  Or whatever the article said would be best IN... dht precursors...


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16026663 - 03/31/12 10:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Fucking right on man! Glad you found the ones that work for you, I'm psyched with mine. Think I broke a bone, find out Monday, no gym for weeks it sucks


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I challenge you to challenge yourself more! When you feel complacent and ready to hang it up, challenge yourself to get over it! If you fail, don't look at it as you didn't succeed, look at it as you would a rock face you're trying to climb. Stand back, wayyyy back, and look at it and plot another path. If you can't find one, shuffle down the way a little, a little change of scenery or a view from a different angle may give you the insight you need.

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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16027295 - 04/01/12 01:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I bought a pair of gym shoes

Inov-8 F 195

Perfect for cardio work and perfect for lifting, squats & deadlifts are a sinch in these shoes.

My feet stay planted from my first rep till the last. It's much easier with a flat sole shoe as your feet stay put and the focus gets channelled into pushing through your legs.

I'm really pleased with my purchase, Inov-8 is a crossfit shoe and it's very light !

The 220's are made for runners in mind.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: MR14]
    #16029130 - 04/01/12 12:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Weak PR attempt on the DL.

Lifting 350#'s with confidence, but no chance on adding much weight to that.

As a laugh i tried adding 40#'s and then decreasing to 35#'s and then 30#'s..

I was spent after those 3 attempts. Next time ill start by adding 5,10, or 15#'s!

Lesson learned.

A humbling experience.

I've been off for a couple weeks, but back to it this week. I am sadly very inconsistant.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16031636 - 04/01/12 11:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #16049393 - 04/05/12 06:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

440x4 squat tonight. been trying low bar and I'm finding it damn hard on my wrists and shoulders, crappy flexibility, especially the wrists.:mad2:


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16050396 - 04/05/12 09:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hmm... I assume you converted to lbs there... Great lift man, I fell off... I have about 4 chords of wood to split this week, that should get me back into lifting shape...


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16052059 - 04/06/12 09:58 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

440 is a killer squat.

I don't squat and never have, but have 2 small gyms within 2 blocks of me - so i am considering going in for a squat session this weekend, and once/week thereafter.

Anyways - I am finally on the tail end of my month long cold and have been working out everyday more or less, lots of variety between bodyweight, running, kettlebell and compound lifts.

Aiming for shorter workouts more often. I kill myself and burn out everytime it seems. :S


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: PDU]
    #16054535 - 04/06/12 09:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Do the Smolov system for squats, it's killer and you don't have to workout anything else lol. It's been over a month and a half since I lifted and my legs are half the size they were. Gonna be out another month or two cuz my injury, I'm fucking pissed.


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I challenge you to challenge yourself more! When you feel complacent and ready to hang it up, challenge yourself to get over it! If you fail, don't look at it as you didn't succeed, look at it as you would a rock face you're trying to climb. Stand back, wayyyy back, and look at it and plot another path. If you can't find one, shuffle down the way a little, a little change of scenery or a view from a different angle may give you the insight you need.

Anything I state is relayed information from a friend of a friend and should be viewed as completely fictitious. I do not partake in any illegal or grey-area-of-the-law activities, but do have lots of friends who may or may not.    -fngbronco

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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: fngbronco]
    #16062320 - 04/08/12 07:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I just got a juicer! I'm juicing vegetables like mother fucker! Drinking them is way easier than eating them for me plus its fun to try diff combos!

That is all.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #16062690 - 04/08/12 08:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

fuck yeah man.  Love juicing.  Fruit and veggies are going to be cheap cheap cheap soon too.  I can use my foodstamps at the farmers market this year too.  yay wellfare and technolgy...


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16062870 - 04/08/12 09:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Shit yah farmers markets is where its at there's like 3 a week where I live! I even eat the separated pulp its good fiber.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: fngbronco]
    #16063718 - 04/09/12 12:54 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i'm looking forward to trying Smolov after i finish this year doing 5/3/1. what did you injure? that sucks :frown:

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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: nglsnv]
    #16065065 - 04/09/12 12:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

My lower leg. Once I'm back I'm gonna start over with Smolov. It's easy(ish) and seriously strengthens the entire body. My bench increased and I hadn't benched in a month, as well as back size and definition and arm strength. Be sure to start a little lighter. It doesn't seem like you're doin much, but it builds up really fast.


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I challenge you to challenge yourself more! When you feel complacent and ready to hang it up, challenge yourself to get over it! If you fail, don't look at it as you didn't succeed, look at it as you would a rock face you're trying to climb. Stand back, wayyyy back, and look at it and plot another path. If you can't find one, shuffle down the way a little, a little change of scenery or a view from a different angle may give you the insight you need.

Anything I state is relayed information from a friend of a friend and should be viewed as completely fictitious. I do not partake in any illegal or grey-area-of-the-law activities, but do have lots of friends who may or may not.    -fngbronco

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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: fngbronco]
    #16086542 - 04/13/12 07:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I've been experimenting with deadlifting without a belt the last couple of sesh's, after years of wearing a belt for everything except bench.:blush: speed off the floor seems better for some reason, and my back feels fine for the lack of belt:shrug:
not a PB, but a no-belt PB.

I bet 500lbs would go up easily next week.:smile:


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #16090286 - 04/14/12 06:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That's beasty man... I am going to bet back into lifting here very soon.  I am to busy with school/being a drug addict to even think about lifting right now...  Come very soon here I am going to be hitting it hard.


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Re: Powerlifting, diet, supplements, bulking... ya dig? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16091022 - 04/14/12 09:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

You fall off the wagon again WWW?


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Anything I state is relayed information from a friend of a friend and should be viewed as completely fictitious. I do not partake in any illegal or grey-area-of-the-law activities, but do have lots of friends who may or may not.    -fngbronco

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