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Alan Rockefeller
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wintersbefore said: This map says they found some in Balboa Park in San Diego... I don't believe it... Is there a way on MO to, when you click on the map, take you to the actual observation??
No easy way. I usually pull it up with advanced search. If there are only a couple observations at that location you can click on the pin and see the observations there.
Christian found that collection. I believe it but the pic sucks and there is no specimen so I can't be sure. There are an awful lot of woodchips in Balboa park. And there have been other southern california findings of P. ovoideocystidiata.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: Blaze-e]
#16137615 - 04/25/12 11:14 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Blaze-e said: any one ever find ovoids in southern jersey..?
The problem I suspect you'll have in s. jersey is finding the right habitat. The forests of the coastal plain are dominated by pine and sassafras, and other shrubby vegetation. You just gotta find the hardwood hammocks. On the plus side, the soil is very sandy. Here in the DC area, ALL my finds have been in very sandy soil, especially those creekside sand bars that are built up just enough to start growing short and stubbly ground cover.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16138848 - 04/25/12 05:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Success going to edit with pictures soonbad news 3 new similar looking ones and what appears to be deadly galerina
Edited by tweekingTwak (04/25/12 10:50 PM)
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koods
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tweekingTwak said: Success going to edit with pictures soonbad news 3 new similar looking ones and what appears to be deadly galerina

Where are the ones you aren't sure about and/or the galerina. Everything in the first five pics looks good, and I can't tell about number six... But I hope you arent gonna put questionables in your bag with the ovoids!
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16140226 - 04/25/12 11:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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majority of picture 4 is most likely galerina ... 6 is all gravey i got lots more pictures but upload limits grr the ones that are dark in 4 dont bruise blue thats a fact they bruise orange tan then left alone while trying to take spore prints turned pale coloured ish sketchy



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also a distinct smell difference one smells right the other smells wrong
down side to ovoids versus other psilocybes is their brown spores. i fucked up my print on those other ones so i have to go back to get new samples. but if they are glerina they wont be much different then the chocolate ovoids. i got ovoids on micro scope slide right now printing for collectible microscopy only slides i have traded em before and they were pretty happy with what they got i dont put i slide cover on it tho so its just literally slide with spores ...
they smell is a dead give away but if you ignorantly pick them and mix up the spots then im sure it would be hard to smell the difference. its like smelling the difference between swiss cheese and extra sharp cheddar really difference
risky shit tho
Edited by tweekingTwak (04/25/12 11:23 PM)
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koods
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tweekingTwak said: majority of picture 4 is most likely galerina ... 6 is all gravey i got lots more pictures but upload limits grr the ones that are dark in 4 dont bruise blue thats a fact they bruise orange tan then left alone while trying to take spore prints turned pale coloured ish sketchy


Good call then... I've seen many ovoids with caps that color.. But there is always clear bruising on everything I've picked so far this year. Actually, except for a few of those beefy pluteus and some other tall, skinny mushroom with black, perfectly flat gills, every mushroom I've encountered in the past week has been an ovoid.
I go by smell a lot too... I give them all the smell and color test. They really have an odor unlike anything else.. Very exotic.
Where are you located ttwak? I'm not seeing any pins like that any more
I took a bunch of pics today... I guess I should upload em before i don't.
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tweekingTwak
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16140339 - 04/25/12 11:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah personally i have never seen pins like that from ovoids

iv totally got a mushie that looks like that minus the growth on top tho

so im used to pins like this



of you look in number three tho , in the top left you can tell it has similar structure just different colour variation and i think its just largely due to the weird weather basically its been dry and its finally rained then been somewhat dry where those black ones come from super moist weather all the time.
i think its something to do with Hygrophanous nature of the mushrooms if i said that right
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16140359 - 04/25/12 11:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey ttwak... on the bottom left of that fourth pic, there is a group of three suspected galerinas, but then there is another single cap to their left that looks dark with blue bruising. Is that an ovoid? scary!
Yeah, I saw some seriously black pins in a patch that died of thirst. May they rest in peace.
You take nice pics, btw.
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Edited by koods (04/25/12 11:37 PM)
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tweekingTwak
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16140401 - 04/25/12 11:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: Hey ttwak... on the bottom left of that fourth pic, there is a group of three suspected galerinas, but then there is another single cap to their left that looks dark with blue bruising. Is that an ovoid? scary!
Yeah, I saw some seriously black pins in a patch that died of thirst. May they rest in peace.
You take nice pics, btw.
yeah i totally see that , yeah that probably is ovoid. i kept walking over them all day then coming back and being like who specially those really big ones walked by em a couple times
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My take for this evening's hunt:

I found these on Monday. They look nice and hydrated:
  
Today, everything seemed a lot more mature, chewed-up and getting a little dried. The benefits of the noreaster aren't going to last as long as I had hoped. I'm also concerned that I didn't see any indication of newer pins or fruits... they all looked many days old.
  
They can hide very well. I'm sure I missed many, and glad that many groups were revealed by a single visible specimen. Some of the more gregarious fruitings were laid out in a linear fashion, I suspect there must be a branch or log buried below. One or two fruits isolated was the most common situation, however.
The habitat of all finds so far this year has been creekside sand bars that have very short ground cover, and clumps of grasses.
  
For the first time ever, found some in a ticket of knotweed, which is a bit over hyped IMO. There is only one common denominator to all my finds ever (besides being near a creek) and that is SAND! No one seems to mention it. I was thinking about how it was possible that it took me three years to find what turns out to be the most common mushroom fruiting this time of year and I realize it is because I wasn't investigating sandy areas. For some reason, I assumed sand and mushrooms didn't go together. LOVE THE SAND!
Finally, here's a myco-porn money shot. This guy totally spored all over his friends.
Edited by koods (04/26/12 02:39 AM)
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16140739 - 04/26/12 01:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Like I said, right now in my area, ovoids are not only common in their habitat, they are the most common mushroom encountered. The other mushrooms I see regularly are the pluteus cervina (the big beefy things growing out of huge logs) and a tall, skinny thing with VERY flat, almost black gills... and both in far fewer numbers than ovoids. If I were hunting any other species, I'd probably be saying to myself, " damn, I wish I wanted those little yellow and blue suckers cause they are everywhere!"
So, my question is to Alan: How is it that they weren't officially recognized until 2003?
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16141219 - 04/26/12 05:58 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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i dont get why people say purple brown spores mine of always been brown like milk chocolate any one have any idea how i could take a good picture of the slides? to post. obviously not zoomed i cant get the right lighting
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tweekingTwak said: i dont get why people say purple brown spores mine of always been brown like milk chocolate
I'm looking in the bag I carry them in, and the spores are definitely a deep brown... Yet, that picture of mine is also accurate, those spores had purple tint to them. Maybe they are purplish when they are hydrated, and turn more brown as they lose water?
Maybe artificial light? I just looked at the spectrum from my CFL bulb in a diffraction grating, and it has some gaps around orange, and it trails off after blue - violet is very weak. Just a theory. I can't test it because the sun is hiding behind clouds and Rain! Rain! Rain!
Did I mention it's raining?
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16141492 - 04/26/12 08:09 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said:
The habitat of all finds so far this year has been creekside sand bars that have very short ground cover, and clumps of grasses.

looks like a good fly fishing spot as well.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16141741 - 04/26/12 09:44 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said:
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tweekingTwak said: i dont get why people say purple brown spores mine of always been brown like milk chocolate
I'm looking in the bag I carry them in, and the spores are definitely a deep brown... Yet, that picture of mine is also accurate, those spores had purple tint to them. Maybe they are purplish when they are hydrated, and turn more brown as they lose water?
Maybe artificial light? I just looked at the spectrum from my CFL bulb in a diffraction grating, and it has some gaps around orange, and it trails off after blue - violet is very weak. Just a theory. I can't test it because the sun is hiding behind clouds and Rain! Rain! Rain!
Did I mention it's raining? 
you might have a point but every print i have ever taken and looked at on a slide was brown
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I think this is kinda like the new cubie for us Midwest,Eastcoast and Cali people..Or if you live somewhere else where they grow,props to you!! I just love getting outside and walking enjoying nature at its finest and not having to worry about jumping barb wire fences and worrying about it the Farmer doesnt believe my Mycology student at the local University story or not :P I love Ovoids and opioids  Peace
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: pfshroomer]
#16141933 - 04/26/12 10:48 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah ill agree , its the north east and eastern mid US answer to PNW wood lovers having what they got and south having cubes
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16142404 - 04/26/12 12:51 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: There is only one common denominator to all my finds ever (besides being near a creek) and that is SAND!
Maybe that is why I haven't found any yet. Although I did look in sand bars. Oh well. Hopefully tomorrow.
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: MacMerdin]
#16142553 - 04/26/12 01:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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weird yeah to behonest i dont know if ill ever find any normally growing my spot is wood chips and unique but it gives an extra huge yield
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Official 2012 Ovoid Thread [Re: koods]
#16143436 - 04/26/12 05:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: So, my question is to Alan: How is it that they weren't officially recognized until 2003?
They were going under the name Psilocybe caerulipes.
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