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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #15999307 - 03/26/12 05:08 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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So now you can read her mind?

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That makes us even. :hehehe:

I can't read minds, but inferring from context it's really obvious she meant "back away and let professionals handle this" by "We don't need you to do that."

What do you think she meant? Was the 911 dispatcher exchanging smalltalk with Zimmerman? Or was her statement intended to have some kind of weight?

I don't claim to read minds, but I am perfectly capable of making inferences about intentions from context.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15999328 - 03/26/12 05:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Then that's what she should have said. That's what he should have done.

She didn't.

He didn't.

Which doesn't change the fact that those who make the claim he was told "not to do that" or "don't get out of your car", are wrong.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15999368 - 03/26/12 05:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't know what happened nor do I care.

But luvdemshrooms you seem to have a very big opinion on it and act as if you were there, please tell me more of the events that transpired that day. :rolleyes:




Please quote even one of my posts that makes it sound as if I was there.




How about it trip... going to follow through?


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15999369 - 03/26/12 05:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

What's sad is to see people pretending they are involved in the legal proceedings of this case, and defend Martin or Zimmerman as if they had any new or useful insight whatsoever into what happened in that corner of Florida more than a month ago.  All of the evidence is not in the public domain, and I'm sure the authorities are working overtime to decide whether to make a case of it.  Seriously, just shut the fuck up about it.  You're only glaringly confirming your own biases.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Lion] * 2
    #15999384 - 03/26/12 05:21 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Its so disgusting and despicable seeing people defend first degree murderer George Zimmerman.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: ShiVersblood] * 1
    #15999395 - 03/26/12 05:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Its so disgusting and despicable seeing people defend first degree murderer racist George Zimmerman.




What's really disgusting and despicable is seeing people attempting to convict someone based on media reports.

Edit: I see you edited the post I was quoting while I was typing my response.

Probably a smart thing to do.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: ShiVersblood] * 2
    #15999402 - 03/26/12 05:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Its so disgusting and despicable seeing all these white folk defend Zimmerman.




I hope he fries, but TBH I only say that based upon the sketch of his personality I've constructed for myself based on hearsay and second-hand testimony. He sounds like an overbearing, trumped-up wannabe vigilante. I hate people like that.

Although it pains me to the core of my bleeding liberal heart, I'm officially neutral on this whole case, because it's obvious none of us know for sure what went down. It looks really bad though, and I hope justice is served.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #15999459 - 03/26/12 05:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Relevant:

http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-shooter-told-cops-teenager-went-gun-030349812--abc-news.html

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In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he saw a man fitting Zimmerman's description lying on the grass moaning and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that killed Martin.




But he didn't see a kid in a hoodie beating him up just seconds before he heard the gunshot. If this is true, the killing was not in "self-defense" but in revenge.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #15999468 - 03/26/12 05:43 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

You left out the part where he called the kid a FUCKING COON in the phone call to 911
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/24/george-zimmerman-refers-to-trayvon-martin-as-a-fing-coon-during-911-call-audio/


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #15999483 - 03/26/12 05:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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You left out the part where he called the kid a FUCKING COON in the phone call to 911
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/24/george-zimmerman-refers-to-trayvon-martin-as-a-fing-coon-during-911-call-audio/




Such information is irrelevant to any position that writes off reasonable inferences about intentions as "mind-reading."


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15999488 - 03/26/12 05:48 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

This is what I think:

If zimmerman TRUELY disobeyed orders to "Do not follow him" he should get at least manslaughter for escalating the situation...

however I do not like the idea that New Black Panthers are able to just put out a "hit" dead or alive reward supported by many athletes and not even dissaproved by president barack obama. I do not understand how people CANNOT seem to wait until the grand jury april 10th to see the true weight of the case/911 calls. I think people are just looking for an excuse to kill white people because of their own inner hatred. New black panther party philadelphia leader has called on "killing whites, cops, etc" and nothing is done. In fact they intimidated voters and funny enough were just told not to bring weapons to voting booths again until 2012... election year... its all very interesting if you do your own research and I'll be glad to provide sources.

I dont however believe neighborhood watch should be following people with loaded guns especially with a history of violence. many in the black community (not all) are just looking for a reason to incite violence against whites and this is the obvious truth by those calling for "dead or alive."

Its not as if he didnt have a broken nose and split the back of his head in the process. However if he didnt have the gun this kid would be alive. So its a complicated case and definitely not one to jump to conclusions. many think they have the support of the president on his capture and murder before the grand jury next month as the president has said nothing but support for his punishment thus far...

the people inviting violence against this man and possibly his family need to reverse the situation and see if they dont think he deserves a trial given the possible fearing for his life. especially considering police reports noted only one in the chamber was fired whereas the clip was fully loaded. this goes along with if someone was grabbing the gun at the time it was fired it would not be able to load the next round into the chamber

I think people need to think real hard before casting judgement. The guy should at least be in trouble for carrying a loaded gun but what if HE WERE killed getting his head slammed against concrete? or having his gun turned on him after the beatdown. def not entirely impossible...

Im surprised at a lot of the comments some are truely trying to start a war between blacks and whites even though the dude had a hispanic mother... anything that works for you I guess


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: grimR] * 2
    #15999492 - 03/26/12 05:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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This is what I think:

If zimmerman TRUELY disobeyed orders to "Do not follow him" he should get at least manslaughter for escalating the situation...

however I do not like the idea that New Black Panthers are able to just put out a "hit" dead or alive reward supported by many athletes and not even dissaproved by president barack obama. I do not understand how people CANNOT seem to wait until the grand jury april 10th to see the true weight of the case/911 calls. I think people are just looking for an excuse to kill white people because of their own inner hatred.




Same old line, different tune.

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New black panther party philadelphia leader has called on "killing whites, cops, etc" and nothing is done. In fact they intimidated voters and funny enough were just told not to bring weapons to voting booths again until 2012... election year... its all very interesting if you do your own research and I'll be glad to provide sources.




Please do provide sources for the statements I've bolded or I won't be reading the rest of your post.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Swwert] * 1
    #15999506 - 03/26/12 05:54 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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oh, look, another person claiming media bias while supporting another media bias.

that "gangsta" picture is not of treyvon.

oh, and of course, that fair and balanced poster doesn't mention the fact that zimmerman has been arrested for assaulting a police officer before. nope, that's not relevant at all.

sweet detective work, though.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: wildchild68] * 1
    #15999517 - 03/26/12 05:58 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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oh, look, another person claiming media bias while supporting another media bias.

that "gangsta" picture is not of treyvon.

sweet detective work, though.




Disgusting, isn't it? From either side.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #15999559 - 03/26/12 06:06 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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You left out the part where he called the kid a FUCKING COON in the phone call to 911
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/24/george-zimmerman-refers-to-trayvon-martin-as-a-fing-coon-during-911-call-audio/




Nope. I didn't.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: wildchild68] * 1
    #15999579 - 03/26/12 06:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

with the comments about soul searching and the upcoming election it would be silly to think president obama hasnt heard about the dead or alive posters and videos all over the news... here u go:

muhammad calling on president obama to get zimmerman and also mentioning black athletes support/money donations for him dead or alive... if u need more evidence of the dead or alive ill gladly provide resources.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/eLiJ4k5QPNs

http://www.youtube.com/embed/T5RNeZup1BI

they want a race war plain and simple. this was just an opening to get attention. they are not the real bpp and there are numerous reasons the original party denounced any part of them...


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15999584 - 03/26/12 06:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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oh, look, another person claiming media bias while supporting another media bias.

that "gangsta" picture is not of treyvon.

sweet detective work, though.




Disgusting, isn't it? From either side.




Yup. In the same way the rush to judgement and the disregard for facts is disgusting.


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    #15999590 - 03/26/12 06:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

indeed, what a shitshow.

i'm not sure if any of you have seen this, but i'm guessing it paints a pretty accurate picture of the kind of person zimmerman was.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/22/george-zimmerman-s-history-of-911-calls-a-complete-log.html

his calls to police include complaints about kids playing in the street, open garage doors, countless black males doing nothing apparently wrong (including a 7-9 year old), trash in the street, wheelies on a bike, pot holes, his landlord trying to get rent out of him, people in the neighborhood pool playing basketball, his roommate letting people he "didn't like" in the house, drunk people walking, and plenty more.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15999591 - 03/26/12 06:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Yup. In the same way the rush to judgement and the disregard for facts is disgusting.




Agreed.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: wildchild68] * 2
    #15999597 - 03/26/12 06:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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his calls to police include complaints about kids playing in the street, open garage doors, countless black males doing nothing apparently wrong (including a 7-9 year old), trash in the street, wheelies on a bike, pot holes, his landlord trying to get rent out of him, people in the neighborhood pool playing basketball, his roommate letting people he "didn't like" in house, drunk people walking, and plenty more.





:picard:

See, I make no claims to know what "really happened," but the evidence is just piling up that this guy is a first-class shithead.


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