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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15997973 - 03/26/12 11:33 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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What didn't they need him to do then, O great English major?




I have to assume you're either trolling or being deliberately obtuse.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15997977 - 03/26/12 11:34 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

hes just being sophisticated, id answer the question


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15997982 - 03/26/12 11:35 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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BlindSophist said:
What didn't they need him to do then, O great English major?




I have to assume you're either trolling or being deliberately obtuse.




No, I really just don't understand

a) what this guy thought he needed to do, or

b) what the dispatcher thought he felt he needed to do.

I'm not being obtuse, this whole goddamned story is being obtuse. I'm just trying to sort it out for myself.

No need to be defensive, your mad grammarz speak for themselves.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: hidenseek] * 1
    #15997983 - 03/26/12 11:36 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I already did.

There's nothing sophisticated about his trolling.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: blujay] * 1
    #15997988 - 03/26/12 11:37 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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blujay said:
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BlindSophist said:
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If a black guy shot a white kid on his own porch in self defense that black guy would be in jail at the very least right?




Who knows? I'm sure it's gone both ways before.




On the phone a 9-11 dispatcher verified that the "strange person" was walking away and told the murderer not to get out of his vehicle.

Instead he got out (with a gun) and chased the dude down claiming "they always get away" and shot him.

Because the guy turned around and tried to defend himself by tackling his pursuer, they are claiming it was self-defense, and didn't even arrest the dude who chased a random person down and shot him in the middle of the street, even though they have another witness on another 9-11 line with another dispatcher to verify what happened.

Dude is going to prison.

The problem is, he might not be if there wasn't such a huge public outcry / media shitstorm.

Really the whole case just highlights how dangerous stand-your-ground-laws are...




This is a clear cut case of self defense. I'm sorry but being an asshole to someone does not give you the right to beat someone within an inch of their life; which by the way, all the evidence and the witness(es) support.

It is also real nice that you are calling the guy a "murderer" before there is a trial or even charges. I guess the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing goes out the window when a bunch of robots among the brainwashed, unthinking masses get all riled up and emotional by a bunch of media lies and propaganda. The Ft. Hood shooter is, to this day, referred to as an "alleged shooter" but no, this Zimmerman guy is a murderer!

Hey, never let little things like "evidence" and "witnesses" get in the way of a good lynchin!


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15997990 - 03/26/12 11:37 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I already did.

There's nothing sophisticated about his trolling.




Would a straightforward answer make your selected champion maybe look like a paranoiac, perhaps? :shrug:


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15997991 - 03/26/12 11:37 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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BlindSophist said:
No, I really just don't understand

a) what this guy thought he needed to do, or

b) what the dispatcher thought he felt he needed to do.

I'm not being obtuse, this whole goddamned story is being obtuse. I'm just trying to sort it out for myself.

No need to be defensive, your mad grammarz speak for themselves.




Really?

You don't get the difference between someone saying "we don't need you to do that" and "don't do that"?

Really?


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 3
    #15997996 - 03/26/12 11:39 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm with luvdemshrooms. Any law that leads to more killings is a good law. We have too many pussies in the world as it is. All the innocent fucks get to live while we lock up the real men willing to cause some damage in the world instead of make believe that life is a fairy tale. This is why we need to re-instate the draft and invade another country. Meat-grinder style. The boys that survive that shit return home men. We are a country full of boys. There isn't a single man in the next generation and at this rate there never will be another man in America.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #15997997 - 03/26/12 11:40 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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BlindSophist said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
I already did.

There's nothing sophisticated about his trolling.




Would a straightforward answer make your selected champion maybe look like a paranoiac, perhaps? :shrug:




1. He's not my champion. I think he was an idiot for getting out of his car.
2. I have given the "straightforward" answer in simple to understand terms.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: SlashOZ] * 1
    #15998009 - 03/26/12 11:47 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm with luvdemshrooms. Any law that leads to more killings is a good law. We have too many pussies in the world as it is. All the innocent fucks get to live while we lock up the real men willing to cause some damage in the world instead of make believe that life is a fairy tale. This is why we need to re-instate the draft and invade another country. Meat-grinder style. The boys that survive that shit return home men. We are a country full of boys. There isn't a single man in the next generation and at this rate there never will be another man in America.




goes both ways ,the pussies and asshole who do return will probly think twice about shit, but what about all the people that were pretty solid to begin with going over and dieing, not everybody is a gang banger or vigilante wannabe
that needs the intensity of war to be sorta normal, i think its a boredom thing, people have too much time on their hands, people just need to keep themselves busy with school, or work, or community activities


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: hidenseek] * 3
    #15998028 - 03/26/12 11:54 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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hidenseek said:
Quote:

SlashOZ said:
I'm with luvdemshrooms. Any law that leads to more killings is a good law. We have too many pussies in the world as it is. All the innocent fucks get to live while we lock up the real men willing to cause some damage in the world instead of make believe that life is a fairy tale. This is why we need to re-instate the draft and invade another country. Meat-grinder style. The boys that survive that shit return home men. We are a country full of boys. There isn't a single man in the next generation and at this rate there never will be another man in America.




goes both ways ,the pussies and asshole who do return will probly think twice about shit, but what about all the people that were pretty solid to begin with going over and dieing, not everybody is a gang banger or vigilante wannabe
that needs the intensity of war to be sorta normal, i think its a boredom thing, people have too much time on their hands, people just need to keep themselves busy with school, or work, or community activities





Hey, you gotta break a few eggs if you want to make an omelet. War breaks the most eggs and makes the best omelet.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15998364 - 03/26/12 01:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Huh.

Trayvon Martin shooting: George Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering his head, police say

By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

12:18 p.m. EDT, March 26, 2012

With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.

Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.

In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.

Civil rights leaders and thousands of others have demanded Zimmerman's arrest, calling Trayvon a victim of racial profiling and Zimmerman a vigilante.

Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.

Supporters have held rallies in Sanford, Miami, New York and Tallahassee, calling the case a tragic miscarriage of injustice.

Activist Al Sharpton headlined a rally in Sanford Thursday that drew an estimated 8,000 people. The Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday spoke at an Eatonville church, where he called Trayvon a martyr.

Another rally is scheduled for 4 p.m. today in Sanford.

Zimmerman has gone into hiding. A fringe group, the New Black Panthers, have offered a $10,000 reward for his capture.

Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.

Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

Zimmerman called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.

Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.

Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.

Trayvon then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: PeterGriffin467] * 1
    #15998390 - 03/26/12 01:44 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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My opinion is I could care less the kid was shot dead, just like I dont let the other umpteen deaths everyday around the country bother me.  I have to admit his first name makes me care even less than I already would of though:smilingpuppy:  Yeah Im a dick no need to say it.



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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: orison319] * 1
    #15998917 - 03/26/12 03:50 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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whys that funny?




It's funny because the "victim" should have the right not to be one.




you mean like the kid that was being stalked by an older, bigger man with a gun for simply walking around with a hoodie on?

setb: stop claiming that all the witnesses accounts agree with zimmerman's. that's simply not true. it shows you are simply going against whatever the "media" says, instead of actually caring about what happened.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: wildchild68] * 1
    #15998932 - 03/26/12 03:54 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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whys that funny?




It's funny because the "victim" should have the right not to be one.




you mean like the kid that was being stalked by an older, bigger man with a gun for simply walking around with a hoodie on?




I mean everyone, which is why I didn't specify anyone in particular.

Pay attention.


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: wildchild68] * 1
    #15998941 - 03/26/12 03:55 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know what happened nor do I care.

But luvdemshrooms you seem to have a very big opinion on it and act as if you were there, please tell me more of the events that transpired that day. :rolleyes:


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: trip forever] * 1
    #15998954 - 03/26/12 03:58 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Without getting too far off topic I want to state my full support for the Stand Your Ground self defense policy although I'm still not sure it will apply in this case.





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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #15998957 - 03/26/12 03:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

BlindSophist said:
No, I really just don't understand

a) what this guy thought he needed to do, or

b) what the dispatcher thought he felt he needed to do.

I'm not being obtuse, this whole goddamned story is being obtuse. I'm just trying to sort it out for myself.

No need to be defensive, your mad grammarz speak for themselves.




Really?

You don't get the difference between someone saying "we don't need you to do that" and "don't do that"?

Really?




to me, "we dont need you to do that" implies that they had it under control, and this guy wasnt a intimidate threat to anyone, and that Zimmerman was probably supposed to back off


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: SlashOZ] * 1
    #15998975 - 03/26/12 04:01 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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We are a country full of boys. There isn't a single man in the next generation and at this rate there never will be another man in America.



I don't know/care/havemuchofanopinion on this topic, but you sum up much of how I feel there...


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Re: The Trayvon Martin thread - bring your paranoid racist fantasies here, folks! [Re: trip forever] * 1
    #15998986 - 03/26/12 04:03 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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trip forever said:
I don't know what happened nor do I care.

But luvdemshrooms you seem to have a very big opinion on it and act as if you were there, please tell me more of the events that transpired that day. :rolleyes:




Please quote even one of my posts that makes it sound as if I was there.


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