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KalleShroomey
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Making a "Heat Bomb" ?
#15990037 - 03/24/12 01:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I tried to make a so called heat bomb, but it doesnt seem to work. It's a 50w aquarium warmer and I put it to max temp 34 degrees celsius (93F). But the bottle is not so hot, doesn't seem to radiate much heat at all. And it's a very small bottle, the tip of the warmer almost touches the bottom of the bottle.
Am I doing something wrong? Or is a 50W heater not enough? (When I take it out, the warmer itself is very hot). Could be worth to mention that I put cold water in the bottle, but it's been over an hour, so should be warm enough til' now. And also, it's a plastic bottle.
Edited by KalleShroomey (03/24/12 01:36 PM)
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Munchauzen



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just don't use it.
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: Munchauzen]
#15990077 - 03/24/12 01:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Give it time. 94 is not very hot and it might take a little while longer for it to warm up that bottle.
I've always wanted to try the heat shock. maybe I'll make some cakes tonight!
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#15990086 - 03/24/12 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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People try some radical shit.
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#15990603 - 03/24/12 04:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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7 year old tek. we know now that certain contaminates only germinate above room temperatures, so we know it is best not to heat our jars.
also the same reason we don't use incubators anymore. old tek based off old information.
Edited by Munchauzen (03/24/12 04:33 PM)
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: Munchauzen]
#15990618 - 03/24/12 04:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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RR said 77 is the optimal temp, but anything in the 70's is fine. I started, like you, using a chamber with a heat bomb, and it didn't speed the growth up. Waste of energy, waste of money, waste of space + like Manchauzen said, heightens the risk of contaminates.
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KalleShroomey
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: elkart]
#15990714 - 03/24/12 05:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The heat bomb was supposed to be used for putting above fruiting chamber, as it is only 68 fahrenheit in the chamber. It's been hours and it still doesn't radiate much heat anyway.
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68 is good enough for fruiting. I wouldn't even bother with the heater.
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: elkart]
#15990997 - 03/24/12 06:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Take your heater and do a modified tub in tub setup. Heat bombs works bc the water hold energy well. Heat bombs fail bc there isn't enough water. T.i.t. Setups hold enough water to surround lots of jars, out also heats the air which helps.
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spiritlands said: Take your heater and do a modified tub in tub setup. Heat bombs works bc the water hold energy well. Heat bombs fail bc there isn't enough water. T.i.t. Setups hold enough water to surround lots of jars, out also heats the air which helps.
well don't even bother with that because we just said that you don't want to heat them at all. by any means. room temperature is best.
TIT = standing water generating more contaminates in your room.
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My heaters run at 79 deg with an internal thermostat to regulate it. I've never had an energetic flush happen at 68 deg, which is exactly what mine resides at empty. Bacteria/molds are not encouraged, imho, until the upper 80's. too hot to fruit anyway. When you move trays from the incubator it provides a 10 deg temp drop before you open it up and provide light/fae.
also a greenhouse with proper fae and 100% colonized substrate eats mold for breakfast. (thanks r.r. for teaching me that, its how I calibrate my green houses now) Bacterial contams mean your sub is too wet to begin with/coolmist is filthy/or there isn't enough room between trays and the internal temp is too high. all I'm saying is a small tit incubator on low, in the bottom will incubate your trays at the right temp and allow for about 75f average air temp up top... Ideal in my opinion. Trich doesn't even grow in my g.h. I've tried
Edit-i agree Munchauzen room temp is best for colonizing the substrate. I like to incubate gently while my casing colonizes bc its faster for me and provides the temp drop in one step.
Not trying to thread jack, I wish you the best of luck, bump...
Edited by spiritlands (03/25/12 03:02 AM)
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: Munchauzen]
#15992838 - 03/25/12 05:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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My first link is leopardman using the heatbomb to dry out cakes before a dunk for massive flushes (what i thought OP was going to do)
the second link was just how the original heatbomb was made.
You definitely shouldn't be using it to incubate your colonizing cakes. lol.
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spiritlands said: Bacteria/molds are not encouraged, imho, until the upper 80's. too hot to fruit anyway. When you move trays from the incubator it provides a 10 deg temp drop before you open it up and provide light/fae.
If your room temp is 75 and you're using an incubator, you're raising the temp inside your jars too high and increasing the risk of contams.
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spiritlands said: also a greenhouse with proper fae and 100% colonized substrate eats mold for breakfast. (thanks r.r. for teaching me that, its how I calibrate my green houses now)
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#15993098 - 03/25/12 08:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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TootyBooty said: My first link is leopardman using the heatbomb to dry out cakes before a dunk for massive flushes (what i thought OP was going to do)
now this is worth investigating, me thinks.
Sorry I didn't pick up on it. If I'm browsing this site, I'm usually stoned off my ass.
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Re: Making a "Heat Bomb" ? [Re: Munchauzen]
#15993173 - 03/25/12 09:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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TootyBooty said: My first link is leopardman using the heatbomb to dry out cakes before a dunk for massive flushes (what i thought OP was going to do)
now this is worth investigating, me thinks.
Sorry I didn't pick up on it. If I'm browsing this site, I'm usually stoned off my ass.
lol, no worries...
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spiritlands said: also a greenhouse with proper fae and 100% colonized substrate eats mold for breakfast. (thanks r.r. for teaching me that, its how I calibrate my green houses now)

-This means IF you waited till you were colonized 100% your mycelium would have dominated the substrate and mold spores that landed on it would be consumed, not germinate. Also mold likes stale air, so if you have enough fae it cant grow anyways...
""If your room temp is 75 and you're using an incubator, you're raising the temp inside your jars too high and increasing the risk of contams.""
-Im not talking about jars (of spawn or pf cakes) im talking about trays (of 100%colonized SUBSTRATE)
-The heater is set to 79f which is well below temp for producing "contams". Maybe the word "incubate" is giving the wrong idea. I keep my TRAYS at 80f (by use of the shallow tit) in order to encourage agressive growth whenever I need a tray to recover. (from patching/casing/scratching)
-The o.p. is asking how to warm his martha/g.h. yes? This is how he can do it using the stuff he bought for that heat bomb. His is 68f, mine WAS 68f. He wants mid 70's, mine IS mid 70's- by doing this-
-There is no contam hazards in an 80 degree tit, esp one thats cleaned regularly and has h2o2 in it. Chances are theres some slime in your coolmist right now. That bacteria is being blown around all the time but it isnt an issue bc the sub is 100% colonized. I cant stress that enough. By the time the o.p. is even putting anything into his g.h. it should be 100% which means "getting contams" should not be a worry until after later flushes when your mycelium isnt as resilient. Seriously the last contam i had in my g.h. was the size of a pencil eraser and it was on a tray finishing its 5th flush....
The other thing that works amazing is a 3 dollar emergency blanket. I have only the door covered and it traps enough heat radiating from my light/trays to keep it around 72-74 on its own. ''''''''''
Edited by spiritlands (03/25/12 12:04 PM)
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Dr.Tooty
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spiritlands said:
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spiritlands said:
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spiritlands said: also a greenhouse with proper fae and 100% colonized substrate eats mold for breakfast. (thanks r.r. for teaching me that, its how I calibrate my green houses now)

-This means IF you waited till you were colonized 100% your mycelium would have dominated the substrate and mold spores that landed on it would be consumed, not germinate. Also mold likes stale air, so if you have enough fae it cant grow anyways...
""If your room temp is 75 and you're using an incubator, you're raising the temp inside your jars too high and increasing the risk of contams.""
-Im not talking about jars (of spawn or pf cakes) im talking about trays (of 100%colonized SUBSTRATE)
-The heater is set to 79f which is well below temp for producing "contams". Maybe the word "incubate" is giving the wrong idea. I keep my TRAYS at 80f (by use of the shallow tit) in order to encourage agressive growth whenever I need a tray to recover. (from patching/casing/scratching)
-The o.p. is asking how to warm his martha/g.h. yes? This is how he can do it using the stuff he bought for that heat bomb. His is 68f, mine WAS 68f. He wants mid 70's, mine IS mid 70's- by doing this-
-There is no contam hazards in an 80 degree tit, esp one thats cleaned regularly and has h2o2 in it. Chances are theres some slime in your coolmist right now. That bacteria is being blown around all the time but it isnt an issue bc the sub is 100% colonized. I cant stress that enough. By the time the o.p. is even putting anything into his g.h. it should be 100% which means "getting contams" should not be a worry until after later flushes when your mycelium isnt as resilient. Seriously the last contam i had in my g.h. was the size of a pencil eraser and it was on a tray finishing its 5th flush....
The other thing that works amazing is a 3 dollar emergency blanket. I have only the door covered and it traps enough heat radiating from my light/trays to keep it around 72-74 on its own. ''''''''''
Lol, I must have misread the original post, i thought this was for colonization.
to add to the confusing you pop up talking about GH's and marthas when she's using a SGFC. sorry, I'm trying not to smoke so much weed at the computer.
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Guess I'm blazed too. I only read words like fruiting chamber and heard green house. Just assumed. Holy shit what a mess,i wouldn't use a tit chamber for fruiting. Tried that doesn't work. Peace
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your using this one right http://www.viaaquaoceanpure.com/heatcool/ViaAqua_quartz_model.html
me too and i dont know i maxed it out today too cause the days are getting colder but when i feel the jars its kinda warm idk if thats good or bad cause i dont have thermometer
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