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 Re: Lepista nuda  [Re: atricoz]
#15937694 - 03/12/12 01:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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For my part, I spawned the odd looking dry-grains+sub
jars to some compost tubs. I expect to stare at them
for months.
The growth on agar is still odd.
There are small hyphal aggregates on the surface. I looked
closely at them and they are not knots or stones, not yet anyway.
I think that I will revisit my original spore print.
The original fruits was a good representative of the
woodland blewit. ....there is no reason my growth
on agar should be so weird.
The outer growth on the PMEA dish is the closest that
I have seen to normal L. nuda so far.
Take care,
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Javadog]
#15958819 - 03/17/12 08:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is an update of how my tray looks now. Unluckily I just saw a little fly gnat walking on the casing layer; I fastly killed it, but I guess that I'll see a lot of them on it, soon 
Anyway, mycelium just started to run through the casing layer, made of pasteurized 50/50 peat moss and vermiculite. It seems like mycelium prefers a lot sawdust and the casing layer itself rather than dung-based compost I added. This suggest me that maybe I should try different compost formulas in the future, like one made of woodchips, dry leaves, pine/fir needles and maybe a little of pasteurized soil.
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Edited by atricoz (03/17/12 08:47 AM)
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: atricoz]
#15959024 - 03/17/12 10:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the update Atricoz.
My tubs are just sitting there, but this is par for
the course for whatever odd genetics with which I am working.
I think that I am going to go back to my original spore
print and try again.
I will post back here on results.
Take care,
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Javadog]
#15962559 - 03/18/12 07:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Atricoz,
I concur with you on the observation regarding the compound.
Think about the habitat where you did find the blewitt,
a leaf and pin needles litter, i suppose.
When have you found your blewitt? In januari/february after the melt?
Anyway, your tray reminds me of my first(and last so far) Lepista experiment.
Mine has never fructified, so i wish you better luck.
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: ILBIACCO]
#15962623 - 03/18/12 08:12 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I found it last august in a fir wood; it was growing over a spruce needles rich soil. My next try will be with spruce needels and humus, I guess
Today, while opening a pretty old plate stored in the fridge, I had this nice findings, seems like culture is forming little primordia directly from agar (PDA). I guess that's a good sign of culture's vitality 
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: atricoz]
#15962745 - 03/18/12 09:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude, you got pins!
LOL, this threads first ones. 
I am counting them a success until we see better.
Good luck all,
JD
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: atricoz]
#15963029 - 03/18/12 11:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Really cool shit!! You know now what you need to do now. Chill that tray as much as possible. Here I find growing lepista nuda in the freakin snow all over the mountains during the cold season. I think they like it.
Lipa
Edited by lipa (03/18/12 11:36 AM)
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: lipa]
#15986294 - 03/23/12 03:08 PM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Seems like casing is 100% colonized now. I spotted just one more fly gnat, so the problem could be not that big.
In some points it also seems like rhizomorphs are forming
At this point, I guess all I can do is to open the tray and keep the casing layer humid. Probably a cold shock would be benefical, but I just can't do it, since that tray is too big for the fridge 
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: atricoz]
#15986357 - 03/23/12 03:26 PM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Fingers crossed!
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Javadog]
#15988922 - 03/24/12 07:20 AM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Yeah, fingers crossed!
After searching the web for pictures from french cultivators, I am sure that the pins Bambus showed earlier, were L. nuda too. Pretty encouraging, that two of us already got pins, even without casing soil.
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Mycelio]
#15989832 - 03/24/12 12:41 PM (12 years, 26 days ago) |
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Awesome thread guys! I am working with a very similar species, Lepista tarda, found in Hawaii where i live. The literature says they are identical except for a few microscopic features so i figured i would show you guys!
Here is my original collection, found in a lawn after 2 weeks of intense rains (like 19 inches in two weeks intense!).
The original collection...
I i took tissue samples from two fruits and tried to get a spore drop onto agar but that contamed. The spore load was crazy out of these and i wish i had made a print now Either way i have plates from the tissue sample and a large (120 mm) plate with a stembutt on cardboard that is growing like nuts (not sterile though). Iʻll get pics later today when i go into my lab. I was just so excited to see others experimenting with these!
Has anyone seen successful fruiting indoors documented anywhere?
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: atricoz]
#15990717 - 03/24/12 05:02 PM (12 years, 25 days ago) |
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That's looking good, I'd put that container in a big cooler with a bunch of ice for a day or two.
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: falcon]
#15991747 - 03/24/12 09:48 PM (12 years, 25 days ago) |
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Great idea. Cool and moist.
You'd have to bag it to put it in the fridge.
Thanks!
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Javadog]
#15994056 - 03/25/12 01:36 PM (12 years, 25 days ago) |
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I managed to put the tray in the fridge luckily I have a big one. A cold shock will be benefical, I guess
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: atricoz]
#15998188 - 03/26/12 10:45 AM (12 years, 24 days ago) |
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You have been underrating your fridge.
Bravo Atricoz! Very well!
Now we wanna see your fruits.
IslandFungi
Yes, Lepista stem butts grow well in wet cardboard.
I love seeing photos of blewit growing attempts.
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: ILBIACCO]
#16001686 - 03/27/12 12:02 AM (12 years, 23 days ago) |
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I think I had a few here..
First time I picked em and half the bush was destroyed for a development. I'll check in the spring to see if they came back....been a couple years. They might have recovered.
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uhm, are you sure that all of these specimen are L.nuda? Only the first one looks like it, the others look like Cortinarius specimen, similar to C.traganus and close species. In the last pic, it's possible to see some traces of veil on the specimens on the right side
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: atricoz]
#16005667 - 03/27/12 08:52 PM (12 years, 22 days ago) |
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yeah I was thinking the same thing, those are corts.
I hope noone ate those.
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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: bambus]
#16007432 - 03/28/12 08:32 AM (12 years, 22 days ago) |
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both the violet cortinarius and conifer-lilac continarius are edible, just aren't the tastiest. Anyhow, I hope the Blewitt growing is going well!
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Yeah the others were just in with the pic of the first one, wasn't sure about the purple thick one, first and last time I saw them. That was a couple years ago. No I didn't eat any of them, I'm not familiar enough with them to try it.
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