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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15906478 - 03/05/12 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok cubes, let's try this out....



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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15906534 - 03/05/12 10:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nice :thumbup:
funny how i had to make a post on how to do this like last week,lol
looks like you got it down now
if you got a camera take some pics of those jars of yours when they start to take off!
keep us updated with the progress,remember..

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: cubes4cancer]
    #15906662 - 03/05/12 10:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That I will, mate. No doubt I'll have more questions as I go along.
Suffering from info overload right now after cramming in as much as I could find from these forums since joining.
Best I should keep it simple at this stage so I'll definitely be calling on you guys.
Thanks for the help.



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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15906971 - 03/05/12 11:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Bugger it. Ok so I need to redo is the general consensus. So there's no way of salvaging what I've done & re PCing it...?




Depends... have you mixed it with the BRF also or did you only put a DRY PERL LAYER on it :laugh2: ?

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15907840 - 03/06/12 07:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nope, my substrate is sound. Only a dry layer of fine perlite covering it. Speaking of which, I used medium & fine verm for the substrate. The fine made a sticky mix (probably the gypsum) which shouldn't be a problem, right?

So tonight I'll inoculate, a 1st time operation for me. Kitchen is too much of an open plan to feel safe in. Maybe I'll do it in the bathroom. Feel free to advise, folks.


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15907911 - 03/06/12 07:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm normally you take medium fine verm for cakes because they allow for better gas exchange. If it's too fine it will just clump together. The substrate should be a bit aerate. When the verm is too coarse, the verm's surface is not big enough to adsorb all the flour and the flour alone will clump (own experience). You should look for it on the board.

I think you can still gently spoon out the perlite, then the substrate (because you might have pressed the sub down while spooning out the perlite), then fluff up the substrate once again and load again. As long as you sterilize it afterwards you should be alright (In the video they touch it with their hands to make sure field capacity).

Try to remember wiping down the edges of the jars with a kitchen towell before putting a dry verm layer on it. Ah watch the videos lol.

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15908763 - 03/06/12 11:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Its a concern. I ran out of medium & finished off with fine. Will it work?


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15908971 - 03/06/12 12:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Its a concern. I ran out of medium & finished off with fine. Will it work?



Shouldn't be a prob at all


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If you build a shotgun terrarium per the tek and your hygrometer says humidity is too low, smash the hygrometer with a hammer and leave the terrarium alone.
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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: Mongoose32216]
    #15909280 - 03/06/12 02:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:2cents:
I personally have used perlite to mix with BFR before when I couldn't find verm and used it as a top layer. Everything turned out great. So what was the downfall? The downfall was that after sterilizing, most of the BRF mudded up on the bottom of the jars because the perlite repelled it with the water. Although this worked, and worked good, using perlite as substrate instead of verm is not a good method. as for using it as a dry top filter, it's was also not a problem, just be careful when you inoculate. Especially if you have the top layer tight against the lid because your needle will puncture the perlite and will clog your needle, making you have to force out the perlite with the plunger and waist unnecessary MS. Trust me! It happened to me. Altogether, I ended up with a very good three flushes, per jar, casing each jar in foil trays. Hope this helps


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: DX2R]
    #15918187 - 03/08/12 07:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, so I haven't inoculated yet. The jars are stashed in a dark cupboard all taped up & with the foil cover still in place from the PC'ing. Reason being that I've been reading here & the popular concensus is that you inoculate in a glove box, which I don't have. Even though the PFTek doesn't mention a GB. So I'll slap one together this weekend & do the inoc then. Think I read somewhere that stashing the cakes for a few days after PC'ing is good practise in case there is contam so you don't lose spore solution.


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15918956 - 03/08/12 11:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Ok, so I haven't inoculated yet. The jars are stashed in a dark cupboard all taped up & with the foil cover still in place from the PC'ing. Reason being that I've been reading here & the popular concensus is that you inoculate in a glove box, which I don't have. Even though the PFTek doesn't mention a GB. So I'll slap one together this weekend & do the inoc then. Think I read somewhere that stashing the cakes for a few days after PC'ing is good practise in case there is contam so you don't lose spore solution.




after pc'ing there is no contams soon as it cools it is a perfect breeding ground for them if they get in. i wouldn't recommend taking them out of the pressure cooker at least if you are going to store them. first come first served when it comes to your sub dont want a contam beating your myc to the meal :2cents:


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If you build a shotgun terrarium per the tek and your hygrometer says humidity is too low, smash the hygrometer with a hammer and leave the terrarium alone.
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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15938679 - 03/12/12 05:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, so its a done deal inoculating at long last after building a static air box according to various teks I found here. Not without incident either after setting my hand (with latex glove) on fire twice & filling 2 fingers of glove up with blood ofter inoculating myself first :eek: Didn't notice it at first until syringe & various shite was covered in blood.

Inoc'd in the bathroom after spraying & rubbing down with Lysol & alcohol with HEPA running. Forgot to turn HEPA off until a few jars into the inoc. Scrubbed down hands with Germ-X & 90% alcohol periodically between jars. Flamed needle outside of box. Also cut tape outside of box. Felt like I had no f@cking idea what I was doing most of the time. :tongue2:

So what's with the masking tape covering holes during PC'ing? Tried removing that before inocing then said f@ck it, too much hassle & inoc's thru tape, put another tape cover on, sprayed newly taped lids with alcohol, sprayed reused foil covers (used during PC) & replaced on jars before stashing. Am I doing alright so far? Feel free to set me straight, good folks.


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15938881 - 03/12/12 05:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So what's with the masking tape covering holes during PC'ing? Tried removing that before inocing then said f@ck it, too much hassle & inoc's thru tape, [...]




Are you actually doing PF Tek? Then I'd suppose you only tape the wholes after inoculation. They do it in RR's mushroom videos. Funny read. Though I appreciate your attempt to go by the t.

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984] * 1
    #15938984 - 03/12/12 06:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

in my experience you cover the holes to make sure water doesn't get in. I always did inoculate through the tape. If that is more masking tape you put on there, after inoculation, you need to take it back off, the cakes need a liitle air, and the slits caused by the needle will do the trick, but you don't want the holes taaped up.(if it is micropore tape, it will be alright, GE can still occur(gas exchange)

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #15943886 - 03/13/12 08:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I hope I was following the PFTek. Don't know why I taped them for PCing. I'm sure I read it somewhere or saw a pic but I've read a bunch & versions don't always agree. I did retape with band aid this time (already sterilized :grin:) after inoc but I'll read up some more tonight & maybe remove it. There's a few things I still need to purchase like micropore tape, tyvek sleeves etc.

So here's what I did after inoc. I retaped holes with band aid, sprayed lids with alcohol & sprayed foil covers with alcihol. So when I check incubation chamber now I almost pass out from alcohol fumes. This won't mess with my substrate development...or will it? Or should I remove foil covers?


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15959146 - 03/17/12 10:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So its almost 5 days & no evidence of mycelium or any other growth in the jars. Yesterday I removed the tape covering the 4 holes & replaced the foil cover. Temp has been hovering between 78 & 82 deg. I was hoping to see something by now or is this first-timer anxiety I'm suffering from...?



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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin] * 1
    #15959164 - 03/17/12 10:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

anxiety...sometimes it's been known to take up to 14 days:lecture:

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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15959210 - 03/17/12 11:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What I thought. Think I'll go slot a few instead on this fine spring day & just allow Lady Nature to take care of Herself....for now.



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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15982648 - 03/22/12 06:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pics taken on 22nd, 2 days after myc outbreak. Checked today again & 3 jars have no signs of nothing. Did I maybe short change those jars? If nothing shows by the weekend I'll re-inoc with leftovers. 11 jars in all. Managed 9 jars with one syringe & opened up a new one for the last 2 jars. Those 2 are going crazy !

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pics not the best. Gotta figure a way of getting better ones.


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Re: First Timer all round & near hitting a panic [Re: mojoraisin]
    #15983889 - 03/22/12 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sweet man good job,yeah it might not be such a bad idea to renocc those three that dont have any action,no growth is some times from lack of moisture content,you could also afford to take the tin foil off your jars as long as your dry verm layer is there,helps with GE and speedy colonization :thumbup:


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