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Ogla



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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: POV]
#15933754 - 03/11/12 03:26 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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this post in SA might help. the more reading material the better. I read thru this and it helped alot to understand how the process works.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15911608
more input would be appreciated
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: Ogla]
#15934012 - 03/11/12 04:24 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you put out a step-by-step method, regulations would quickly be made to hinder the use of the method. Post The Hive like forums, you have to do a bit of research and put things together yourself. There are plenty of posts on here that will tell you how to go about doing the synthesis, you may need a bit of chemistry knowledge to fully understand it though. LSD synthesis isn't some completely impossible process, but it's not as simple as some shake-and-bake meth...
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: 420Experience]
#15934217 - 03/11/12 05:13 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is the easiest to read "tek" I've seen.
As published in Pharmako Gnosis
I created front companies to buy fifteen pounds of ergotamine. Tried to make sure the purchases couldn't be traced.
It took six gallons of hydrazine to convert the ergotamine to isolysergic hydrazide. You can isomerize it later.
Do the reaction under nitrogen. We chained two acid traps to the end to catch the vapors. Pre-heat the oil bath. The reaction takes an hour. We could do 250 grams at a time. Roto-vac the hydrazide. Rinse the flask and vacuum distill with an iced condenser.
Dissolve the hydrazide in tartaric acid, basify, and extract with chloroform until you can't see any more lysergic in the solvent with UV long. Dry the chloroform and roto-vac. Store the lysergic hydrazide in the refrigerator under nitrogen. All this part in yellow light.
In complete darkness, or dim red light, convert the hydrazide to pyrazole under nitrogen with pentanedione. Neutralize with sodium hydroxide and refrigerate the flask to precipitate the crystals. Vacuum dry for twelve hours.
Do the amination in red light under nitrogen. Dry the diethylamine just before you use it. Heat on an oil bath for four hours. You need high vacuum. Cook off the pyrazole. Potassium hydroxide in methanol converts the 'iso' to 'd'.
We cleaned all the glassware as best we could, then broke it all up; took the pieces to the dump- couldn't risk that some innocent might try to use a piece of it for a vase or something.
It took twenty batches. We should have done it in steps, converted all the ergotamine to lysergic hydrazide first, then converted all of the hydrazide to pyrazole, and then just had the amination to do at the end, but once we had that first batch of hydrazide, we wanted to take it all the way through to see if the process was going to work.
That was really a mistake, because then we had a hundred grams of acid, and as careful as we could be it got into the air, or into the glass, we never figured out. It took two more weeks to do the rest. We were high the whole time. We made two kilos.
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Ogla



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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: muistrue]
#15937790 - 03/12/12 01:26 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Uncle Fester has a PDF document too, but he tries too hard to explain and then looses people
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6558877/Drugs-Uncle-Fester-Practical-LSD-Manufacture
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: muistrue]
#15937836 - 03/12/12 01:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ogla



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i do have some questions.
During the process of converting LSA to D-Lysergic Acid, the LSA is suspended in Potassium Hydroxide aqueous solution and placed in a Heat Bath with a stream of nitrogen running thru it. Afterwards, the solution is neutralized with tartaric acid then mixed with ether and ether discarded after separating (reminds me alot of Mescaline extraction)..
My question is can the chemicals be replaced with Sodium Hydroxide and Muratic Acid? It seems they basify the solution for the nitrogen stream and hot bath then neutralize it with an acid.
Also, the solution described above is mixed with ether and the ether discarded.. Later on, during the final synthesis process, the solution of hydrochloric acid + sodium nitrate is neutralized with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)., then ether is added and mix and separated when the diethylamide is added. The Ether evaporated is iso-LSD + LSD.. What i dont get is y the goodies dont dissolve in the ether when converting LSA to D-lysergic Acid, but then get dissolved in Ether during the last process.. Does it have to do with the fact that the final process all the solvents r chilled to 0 degrees Celsius or below? Anyone comment?
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: Ogla]
#15971880 - 03/20/12 01:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guess the Lysergic acid is soluble in alkalized water because it is protic. Ether is aprotic. As far as I have understood, the step of hydrolysis is for cracking the ergotamin up and removing the rest in the ether layer. If you look at ergotamine, the big rest docked to the lysergic acid looks pretty aprotic, so it gets extracted in the ether.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvent#Polar_protic_and_polar_aprotic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotamine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid
Wow man, I had never understood it if you had not asked the question...
In each case the final LSD is aprotic again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide
Edited by sof4r0ckeRs1984 (03/20/12 01:38 PM)
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Ogla



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anhydrous hydrazine, a prime solvent in the final synthesis process can be made from acetone, ammonia and peroxide in the Atofina-PCUK cycle.
http://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/11040.htm
http://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Hydrazine.html#Synthesis
http://www.chemindustry.ru/Hydrazine.php
From acetone, ammonia, and hydrogen peroxide in several steps (Atofina-PCUK cycle). Acetone is treated with ammonia to give imine followed by oxidation with hydrogen peroxide resulting in 3,3-dimethyloxaziridine and then ammonolysis to the hydrazone, which reacts with one more equivalent of acetone. The resulting azine is hydrolysed to produce hydrazine and regenerating two molecules of acetone
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: Ogla]
#15976280 - 03/21/12 12:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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WHOOOA Very nice!
I wondered where one could get that stuff from already... can I take that as a "thank you"?
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Do be careful working with anhydrous hydrazine; it can be dangerous handled improperly! 
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: Ogla] 1
#15976838 - 03/21/12 02:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn a kitchen tek on how to make rocket fuel. Be safe with that.
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: 420Experience]
#15976885 - 03/21/12 02:58 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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420Experience said: Do be careful working with anhydrous hydrazine; it can be dangerous handled improperly! 

Yeah I was just wondering hypothetically
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NeuroSoup says something interesting about Sleepy Grass in this video:
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: s240779]
#16032422 - 04/02/12 06:13 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
superhigh said: NeuroSoup says something interesting about Sleepy Grass in this video:
I have thought the sleepy grass species would be an interesting starting point, if you lived in an area where growing it was practical. Saprophytic paspali cultures have the advantage of being relatively compact and of fairly uniform alkaloid concentration though...
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: 420Experience]
#16037753 - 04/03/12 10:26 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
420Experience said:
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superhigh said: NeuroSoup says something interesting about Sleepy Grass in this video:
I have thought the sleepy grass species would be an interesting starting point, if you lived in an area where growing it was practical. Saprophytic paspali cultures have the advantage of being relatively compact and of fairly uniform alkaloid concentration though...
So let's move to South Dakota
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Good post. A man can dream.
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: Ogla]
#17211525 - 11/13/12 08:30 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: anhydrous hydrazine, a prime solvent in the final synthesis process can be made from acetone, ammonia and peroxide in the Atofina-PCUK cycle.
http://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/11040.htm
http://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Hydrazine.html#Synthesis
http://www.chemindustry.ru/Hydrazine.php
From acetone, ammonia, and hydrogen peroxide in several steps (Atofina-PCUK cycle). Acetone is treated with ammonia to give imine followed by oxidation with hydrogen peroxide resulting in 3,3-dimethyloxaziridine and then ammonolysis to the hydrazone, which reacts with one more equivalent of acetone. The resulting azine is hydrolysed to produce hydrazine and regenerating two molecules of acetone

You have to be careful some of the ingredients that you can buy online the people manufacturing them especially ergotamine and lysergic acid report there sells to the DEA. I'm not sure if they report ergotamine but I know for a fact they report lysergic acid.
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Re: How to Make LSD "TEK" Version 2 [Re: Tsukasa]
#17212421 - 11/13/12 12:37 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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