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7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect??
    #1595834 - 05/31/03 10:47 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I was wondering how much tolerance you can build up...say having 6 trips over 6 weeks??

I had a trip on this weekend just gone (i ate 3 gell caps [approx. 7 1/2 mushies] ) and it had barely any effect.....anyone who has had a Psilocybe subaeruginosa before would know this is enough to put you on your arse.....the only reason me and my mates could come up with was that it was due to tolerance from tripping almost every weekend....is this possible??


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: fatasaurus]
    #1597118 - 05/31/03 11:59 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i would answer if i could make sense out of this whole thing..


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: cube421]
    #1597331 - 06/01/03 01:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

how big a gelcaps? SO are you drying them and then powdering? If they were fresh they wouldnt fit in that few gellcaps.
Subaeruginosa are highly potent - it would have nothing to do with tolerance and more to do with drying or identification.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1597781 - 06/01/03 08:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

They are deffinately subaeruginose....and yes they are dried and powdered, hen put in the gell caps........They were dried in a fruit drying machine which has dried alot of previouse batches, and they were all fine.

Could it be due to the food that was in my tummy?? i had eaten pizza about 20-30 mins before the mushies


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: fatasaurus]
    #1598018 - 06/01/03 12:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Does the food drying machine use heat?


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: Dank420]
    #1598305 - 06/01/03 03:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

no it can't be because of the pizza you ate- Your still gonna trip- it just Might take longer to hit.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: cube421]
    #1600056 - 06/02/03 01:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The food drying machine does use heat...but only like 40C, not enough to damage the mushies


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: fatasaurus]
    #1600511 - 06/02/03 05:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Probably some bunk shrooms. As for the tolerance I used to take shrooms every 6 days or so, this was only for three weeks, the only thing I noticed that the last of the trips was not really visual at all. I doubt this was really due to tolerance but more to my state of mind. As far im aware psilocybin tolerance only lasts a day or two however, I suppose its possible you've developed some mental tolerance to it. I'd just cool off the shrooms for a month or so and possibly consider your source.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1603718 - 06/03/03 06:44 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Tolerance is bullshit - ive managed to trip on mushrooms four nights in a row - the last night i only ate seven subs and i had the most profound experience of my entire life...
Maybe just poor alkaloid content for some reason, or maybe the heat had an affect, or they were old when picked.
subs are highly potent, so its suprising. better luck next time mate


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1603734 - 06/03/03 07:09 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Bluemeanie how many subs would it probably someone take to get to level 4 or even 5


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: beam]
    #1603764 - 06/03/03 07:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Tolerance definitely isn't bullshit, to what degree it affects trips and experiences is debatable. According to the Psilocybe Mushroom FAQ. 20+ mushrooms is considered a high dosage, 7(1/2) grams is considered a low-medium level dosage.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1604002 - 06/03/03 11:23 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Tolerance definitely isn't bullshit




Totally agree as more of the substance is taken over time the amount of receptor sites drop for that substance. This means eventualy you could be quadtrippaling your doses and it still wont work because of there simply isnt enough receptor sites for the substance to lock into.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: EvilGir]
    #1606807 - 06/04/03 02:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

st0nedphucker ...its not 7 and a half grams, its 7 and a half mushies, they were P. subaeruginosa so that is a decent dose. I think it was just a weak batch for some reason...even tho it is a trusted patch...

oh well, i just hope it doesn't happen again because it left me hanging for another trip. i think i will just eat them wet this week.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: fatasaurus]
    #1606885 - 06/04/03 03:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)


Why would you want to take shrooms for days at a time? I can't see how your several trip on consecutive nights would do much of anything, but maybe that's because we are different people. I would think that much of the experience probably resulted from sleep deprivation.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: Huxley]
    #1607149 - 06/04/03 05:53 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry my mistake. 7.5 mushrooms is considered a low-medium level dosage.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1607383 - 06/04/03 10:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Huxley, i have never had them on consecutive nights...i've been having them once a week for about 6-7.........
...hehehe i have always wanted to try like a three day binge but as you said .... i'm afraid of the sleep deprivation, and that they would have no effect if you tryed to eat more while coming down =( ....

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st0nedphucker, even for subaeruginosa?? i say seven subs are a medium to large dose, and i think bluemeanie would agree =)
(15 subs are enough to make any person flip out for a while lol)


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: fatasaurus]
    #1607402 - 06/04/03 10:53 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)


Here is the dosage information for P. subaeruginosa

Low Dose = 2-5 Mushrooms
Medium Dose = 5-13 Mushrooms
High Dose = 20+ Mushrooms
*Based on Dosage information in Psilocybin Mushrooms FAQ Version 2.02
(last Update 8th September 2001)

According to the table, 7 and a half mushies is a low-medium dose, I was merely quoting it in answer to beams dosage question. I personally believe dosage tables/calculators are practically useless except for use as a basis, the best way to find out your dosage is to test larger amounts in steady increments


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1607465 - 06/04/03 11:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

those figures aren't entirely accurate!

subaeruginosa seem to be extremely varying in strengths.

from my small amount of personal experience with them... eating around 10 small mushrooms will make most people trip VERY hard. i would say 13+ is a HIGH dose. 13+ would definitely put most people into a level 4 or 5 trip.

20+, LALALAND.

mind you, i've been put on my ass with only 4 small-medium sized mushrooms... they are super potent. 10 small mushrooms will probably only weigh a bit over 1 gram dried.


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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: jimbu]
    #1615473 - 06/06/03 08:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)


I agree with Jimbu there - however the subs seem to vary a lot - plus the person who is taking them varies the trip a lot too. I've had five before and tripped quite well and had five at other times and not felt a thing. I would say for me 7.5 would be a mediumish dose.... 15 would be a big one... and 5 would be smallish....



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Re: 7-1/2 P. subaeruginosa = no effect?? [Re: jimbu]
    #1616049 - 06/07/03 04:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Sure tolerance can be an issue, but it would not account for taking that many subs and having no effect.
As for the 'dosage FAQ for Subaeruginosa' - who ever contributed that information has no idea what they are talking about. We arent talking about some weak-arsed cubensis strain here - Subearuginosa would match up to Azurescens in terms of potency if ony it were bigger.


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