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Invisiblesilversoul7
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Shroom Evangelizing
    #1585988 - 05/28/03 07:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Ever since my recent Level 5 trip, I've been like a born-again Christian(except replace the word "Christian" with "tripper"), wanting to spread the word about the sacred mushrooms to everyone, letting them know that they can free their minds and show them the key to happiness like they did for me. There are times when I wish the whole world could experience what I have. Then I have to remind myself that shrooms aren't for everyone, and that they could end up screwing some people up. I also have to remember how annoyed I tend to get when Christians try and convert me over to their faith, and figure some people might get similarly annoyed with my promotion of this sacrament, particularly considering that it's illegal. Any thought/similar experiences?


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: silversoul7]
    #1586460 - 05/28/03 10:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I know exactly what you mean. I think anyone who experiences something great wants to share it with others in hopes that they'll be able to understand or enjoy it too. That's the feeling born again Christians feel when they believe that God has taken care of everything and that their soul is safe. By getting others to believe the samething, it reenforces that idea. I guess the big difference between wanting to share what you've found and evangelizing is being tolerant of others who don't see things the way you do. Part of what our potential as a species is the dynamic range we have in seeing and feeling things. I say appreciate what other people see in life and let them know anything they want to if they're open minded enough.

Besides, if you learn something from someone who you're looking to "convert", than we're one step closer to understanding ourselves as a whole. :wink:


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: silversoul7]
    #1586522 - 05/28/03 11:13 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)


I feel the same.  :crazy:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: Twirling]
    #1586640 - 05/28/03 11:48 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Very well said, man! :smile:  I agree completely!

-RebelSteve


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1591902 - 05/30/03 02:21 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, sometimes I feel like I go on too much about how mushrooms are so profound and whatnot - - I just can't help myself.

It's the new New World. We're just the first explorers.


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: silversoul7]
    #1592538 - 05/30/03 11:07 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

sometimes i wonder if it will just screw me up more. ive done it... and it was cool... but after having a horrible trip on DXM. i havent been the same sense. now i was thinking about taking acid again... that was a strange experience. but it was very refreshing. and for some reason it seems on shrooms i spin out... whereas on acid it seemed to trip in...


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1592575 - 05/30/03 11:28 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

gadzooks, its a fuckin Starman Deluxe!
Grav swings his baseball bat... :wink:


Tripping is extremely intense... It's taken me a good year to feel comfortable again with it..

That's interesting Malachi...
the first explorers...  maybe that's history's greatest lesson..  Some of the most positive changes came about through total defiance of everything in one's environment...  Maybe that potential for positive change is what we feel, even though it feels half impossible / insane at the same time...
It's because that state of mind in this culture (or this world even)... it is uncharted territory...  There are flimsy roadmaps drawn up by founding psychonauts, but it really is very wild out there.


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: Grav]
    #1592678 - 05/30/03 12:30 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

gadzooks, its a fuckin Starman Deluxe!
Grav swings his baseball bat... :wink:




Twirling casts PSI Flash and makes everyone cry!

I'm really overwhelmed by how powerful psychedelics can be, and how much they can show you. I always try to remember that every concept that we have is just someone's interpertations of that very uncharted terroritory, and that the important thing is to form my own concepts of what that "place" really is. To quote the song I'm listening to:

"I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed"


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: silversoul7]
    #1592845 - 05/30/03 01:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

There is no need to preach psychedelia (just made that word up!). Those who are interested will naturally find their way there (just like religion) and those who are not interested will rebuke your attempts to "show them the light".


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: Swami]
    #1592913 - 05/30/03 01:54 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

agreed.


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: Swami]
    #1592981 - 05/30/03 02:14 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Chocolate cake.


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: ]
    #1593145 - 05/30/03 02:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Sometimes you are too obtuse for even the mighty Swami to figure out!


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: Swami]
    #1593306 - 05/30/03 03:25 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I was alluding to a discussion about this evangelizing that we had before in this forum.

I prefer to look at what I have (my spirituality) as a piece of chocolate cake. I sit here eating it and enjoying it. Sometimes people see me having a great time eating my cake and ask for a piece. Then, I share what I know if I think they are open.

I found that to be a much better way of communicating my beliefs than shoving my cake down their throat.


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: ]
    #1593317 - 05/30/03 03:27 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Mmmmfff!


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: ]
    #1593371 - 05/30/03 03:42 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Damn this cake is good. Hmmmmmm nummy.


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: ]
    #1595321 - 05/31/03 01:36 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

is it a really worked out program that makes you feel... tingly inside  :blush:.... hehe :blush:

seriously though... the cake is well appreciated. thanks for sharing :laugh:


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Re: Shroom Evangelizing [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1595424 - 05/31/03 02:24 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

You are quite welcome ZeroZa1


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