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 mesoamerican
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 Self-incrimination @ shroomery? 
#15950774 - 03/15/12 12:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi, I recently checked out another drug realted forum and they have some really strict rules about "self-incrimination." Most people use this acronym, "SWIM" which means "Someone other than me" on their posts or they use other clever phrases like, "My pet iguana told me it had a dream and saw colors.." etc.. so that the internet feds can't really prosecute the person for stating that they did drugs or sold drugs or anything with drugs. But here on shroomery, everyone is pretty open about their "trips" and how they grow their shrooms or plants. They even post pictures. I think I have once. So anyway, are the people or moderators from those websites really know the rules and laws of self-incrimination over the interenet or are they just paranoid and rather not deal with it? What about shroomery, are we more rebellious and don't give a fuck because nothing's really going to happen or are these "self-incrimination" laws bogus and we just don't give a fuck? I'm not a afraid or anything, just curious you know. Thanks.
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 rackem
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: mesoamerican]
#15950782 - 03/15/12 12:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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SWIM is extremley annoying.
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CrossingTheStar
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: mesoamerican] 2
#15950786 - 03/15/12 12:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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SWIM = Somebody Who Is Me
In other words, feds have known about this for years and are probably used to people doing this, and probably can easily prosecute.
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Wishing Well
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Hmm, I was wondering about this the other day
Connection of a shroomery account to a social online account, not the SWIM thing
Also, about PMs: I was chatting with a dude the other day and he hinted that encryption can be used. What is the significance of such a thing? Without encryption or proxy could my IP be traced
Maybe I'm just being paranoid but, having dealt with some truly insane people in my life, it might just be a good thing
The shroomery seems like a truly open minded place, I'm not at all used to such a thing
I didn't believe it could exist a while ago
Trust has always been an issue due to the circumstance
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Wishing Well]
#15950890 - 03/15/12 01:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
encryption can be used
you use it so that aliens can't decypher your  s
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Wishing Well
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: mellowparty]
#15950997 - 03/15/12 01:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have nothing against foreigners, why should I fear Russian spys?
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Wishing Well]
#15951007 - 03/15/12 01:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was thinking more about  but yeah use it to protect your privacy. If your discussing trades, exchange of controlled goods etc. then its a must.
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: mellowparty]
#15951026 - 03/15/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not illegal to have done drugs. Those other forums are retarded.
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: mellowparty] 1
#15951029 - 03/15/12 01:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you really think the feds are gonna believe
"Yeah so my pet iguana is producing 53 lbs of meth, uhh, where can the iguana sell it?"
Then..
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NWlight
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Wishing Well]
#15951041 - 03/15/12 01:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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last time i checked, nothing said in a message board like this was legally binding.
THat is to say, just your words here would not be considered an admission of guilt.
I mean... if you're dumb enough to talk about your giant illegal mushroom grow and post photographs for the world to see, AND you do this from your home computer not using a proxy.... you're just asking for trouble.
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Uzziel]
#15951051 - 03/15/12 01:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I doubt they'll be after a couple of shroomerites exchanging spore prints,tabs, a few hundred mg's of whatever RC etc but still better safe than sorry 
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Wishing Well
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: mellowparty]
#15951055 - 03/15/12 01:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Uzziel said:
If you really think the feds are gonna believe
"Yeah so my pet iguana is producing 53 lbs of meth, uhh, where can the iguana sell it?"
Then..
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mellowparty said:
I was thinking more about but yeah use it to protect your privacy. If your discussing trades, exchange of controlled goods etc. then its a must.
gotta wonder what version of PC Aliens use
infiltration using the internet might be a bit difficult with claws
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: mellowparty]
#15951072 - 03/15/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
mellowparty said:
I doubt they'll be after a couple of shroomerites exchanging spore prints,tabs, a few hundred mg's of whatever RC etc but still better safe than sorry
IDK you'd be surprised. Any time they can get an easy-to-prosecute case they take it to get their arrest and conviction rates up. Makes it look like they're doing their job well when they have stats and that gets them more funding while keeping the people higher up the ladder in their little bureaucracy in power.
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Wishing Well]
#15951075 - 03/15/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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we're all just playing characters, who says we're not?
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: NWlight]
#15951088 - 03/15/12 01:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
NWlight said:
last time i checked, nothing said in a message board like this was legally binding.
THat is to say, just your words here would not be considered an admission of guilt.
I mean... if you're dumb enough to talk about your giant illegal mushroom grow and post photographs for the world to see, AND you do this from your home computer not using a proxy.... you're just asking for trouble.
I'm not up to date on internet law but from what I understand anything you post in the internet = a publication. same thing with text messages. looking up posts on a forum would be just like finding a manila folder in a file cabinet saying that Enron was doing illegal accounting or whatever.
However, most of the people on this website are users and most of the posts are not drug related really. The feds would have to sift through a lot of small fish to get anyone worth prosecuting. Local law enforcement probably doesn't have the money to pay someone to surf the shroomery all day looking for someone in their area to bust for a grow. I think we are pretty safe because of those two things.
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NWlight
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Salomon] 4
#15951096 - 03/15/12 02:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Salomon said:
we're all just playing characters, who says we're not?
yeah, it's my damned fetish for role-play.... one of my favorites is pretending to be a pot smoking college student. I'm actually 40 and balding and this helps me sleep at night
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Wishing Well]
#15951106 - 03/15/12 02:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Unless youre producing 25lbs dried of shrooms a week, i REALLY doubt the feds are gonna come knocking. most of us here grow for personal use
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: SlashOZ]
#15951120 - 03/15/12 02:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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i've never been too concerned, don't usually post things that are too incriminating
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: NWlight]
#15951130 - 03/15/12 02:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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In this situation trolls are a good thing. Everyone else can just blend in.
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Wishing Well
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Re: Self-incrimination @ shroomery? [Re: Hashbuble]
#15951168 - 03/15/12 02:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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If trolls are the crowd then who are the riot police? I better get out before the stampede begins
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