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Invisibledwpineal
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New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation
    #15945243 - 03/14/12 06:59 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/new-legal-lsd-like-drug-under-investigation-4772881

New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation

A drug operation run in Hamilton has been shut down following an investigation by TVNZ's Close Up.

A new designer drug called Dime has been available online, sold as a capsule containing white powder and marketed as legal.

It has been claimed Dime mimics the effects of LSD and ecstasy, filling a void left by Kronic and other 'legal highs' which were banned last year.

Vonk Ltd, a Hamilton-based company directed by Kurt von Keisenberg, imported the powder from Poland.

Von Keisenberg, a chemistry graduate, told Close Up he came across the drug through scientific journal articles and internet discussions.

He realised he "could purchase the stuff and turn it into something sellable".

Von Keisenberg said while the company imported "the pure white powder" from a Polish company he believed it was made in China.

A friend of Von Keisenberg created a website for Dime and sold the drug online, at $30 for two capsules, making it one of the cheapest synthetic highs on the market

A user of Dime called Nick (not his real name) told Close Up the new drug, which is snorted, was potent.

"It's very heavy, very intense. You can feel nauseaous for the first half an hour or so. After that you're just enjoying basically everything for at least a good six to ten hours. It's an all round party buzz."

Dime's marketing said the drug brings on an "amazing high", "beautiful visuals" and "increased energy".

Illegal substance

But Close Up commissioned the drug to be tested at ESR, the government-owned laboratory.

Tests revealed Dime contains 25C-NBOMe, a Class C drug, which is an analogue - a modified version - of a Class A drug called "DOB".

The drug 25C-NBOMe is a designer hallucinogen which been in the market in Europe and Australia for up to five years, according to Dr Paul Quigley, head of the emergency department at Wellington Hospital.

Vonk Ltd has now accepted it was distributing a Class C drug.

It said it was shutting the company down and destroying anything left of the drug.

Police, Customs and the Ministry of Health are now investigating.

Dr Quigley told Close Up any drug which gives hallucinations can be dangerous.

"With hallucinogens you get this injury rate where people harm themselves either in terror from the hallucination or trying to act out something during the hallucination."

"They get frightened and they run off. But people run off through glass windows, they run across motorways, they get hit by cars."

Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne told Close Up that because Dime contains an illegal substance, it is immediately a matter for police and Customs.

"The important thing now with Dime is that the regulatory authorities like the Police and Customs do their work. Firstly, to see how it gets across the border in the first place and secondly, whether any criminal activity's involved."

Dunne said permanent legislation should be in place by the end of year which means the 51 synthetic highs taken off the market last year will not reappear.

He said temporary bans in place since last August has worked, and evidence showed the "dramatic use of synthetic cannabinoids has virtually evaporated".

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: dwpineal]
    #15945279 - 03/14/12 07:28 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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dwpineal said:
the "dramatic use of synthetic cannabinoids has virtually evaporated".




Just because something evaporates, it doesn't mean what has evaporated has disappeared. It means it has merely been dispersed. It's still out there, Dunne. Fail analogy, bruh.


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: Ieponumos]
    #15945285 - 03/14/12 07:32 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

lol they want to make it illegal now that enough to dose the world has been made.

Too little too late fascist America.


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: THIHT]
    #15945290 - 03/14/12 07:36 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Shame that the bomamines are already gaining attention; seems yet another beautiful class of drugs that I won't experience :mad2:

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: Beanhead]
    #15945321 - 03/14/12 07:50 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

They will still be made.

They cant stop us now.


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: dwpineal] * 2
    #15945346 - 03/14/12 08:04 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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"With hallucinogens you get this injury rate where people harm themselves either in terror from the hallucination or trying to act out something during the hallucination."





Unlike prison, which does not cause terror in the drug taker. :rolleyes:


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: THIHT]
    #15945382 - 03/14/12 08:24 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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THIHT said:
lol they want to make it illegal now that enough to dose the world has been made.

Too little too late fascist America.




I believe the original article is actually from New Zealand, not America...

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: dwpineal]
    #15945421 - 03/14/12 08:43 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

America started it. :smirk:


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: THIHT]
    #15945629 - 03/14/12 10:00 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Always a perfect response.. :/

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: theshroom]
    #15945748 - 03/14/12 10:48 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

man theyre catchin on to the nbomes pretty quick. motherfuckers.

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation *DELETED* [Re: Led Zeppelin] * 2
    #15945778 - 03/14/12 10:58 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: Gotlib]
    #15946085 - 03/14/12 12:35 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Fortunately the US legislative branch is bulky and extra slow. I estimate it will be at least 18 months years after NZ bans it that we finally get around to it. And even then the ban will probably affect little. There is always another drug. There are at two spice bans that I know of (there might be more) but they just put more and more obscure chemicals in the spice and haven't missed a beat selling it in the headshops. Literally, they have in the store anticipating the laws so they can put the new ones out the next day.

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: morrowasted]
    #15946117 - 03/14/12 12:50 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

I dont get why the government fails to understand that there are going to be new synthetic designer drugs every year that are legal. It makes me wonder why they dont just legalize the safe ones instead of letting people keep making dangerous untested synthetics.

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #15946144 - 03/14/12 12:59 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

for the same reason gov't doesn't "realize" lots of things

big $$$

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: morrowasted]
    #15946931 - 03/14/12 04:04 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Or how about slapping on a ban on anything that alters consciousness? :eek:

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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: Gotlib]
    #15947040 - 03/14/12 04:30 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

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Butt-Head said:
there we go... I HATE AMERICA FUCK YOU AMERICA SUCK MY LARGE SWOLLEN HAIRY BALLS




fuck you too america junior... enjoy those new laws and mandatory minimum sentence

lol silly noob...

this article was from new zealand...


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: wortiesbo]
    #15950037 - 03/15/12 08:33 AM (12 years, 16 days ago)

Fuck the government man  :hippie:

The NBOMe series is the shit for raving. I would take it over LSD and MDMA if I were at a rave, its that good :borat:


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: Nullface]
    #15951218 - 03/15/12 02:27 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

It would be awesome if they banned coffee. The current economic system would die overnight.


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Or how about slapping on a ban on anything that alters consciousness? :eek:



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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: mellowparty]
    #15951226 - 03/15/12 02:28 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

this was to be expected, i mean it's already been introduced into the media, with kids ODing on it.


i wouldn't doubt it getting raped by the feds like the 2CI's


but you know what?

more RC's will be synthesized.

shit, maybe even better ones. you can't stop it.


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Re: New 'legal' LSD-like drug under investigation [Re: Salomon]
    #15951288 - 03/15/12 02:42 PM (12 years, 16 days ago)

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shit, maybe even better ones. you can't stop it



The one NBOMe I tried turned out to be my favourite RC. Much better than 2C-I and all that. So much win in one milligram  :awepreciation:


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